Heard on Team 1200 in Ottawa (citing sources in New York) this morning that Ottawa and St Louis are in serious discussions to bring Pronger to the Sens. Names being mentioned going the other way is Karel Rachunek in the package. Interesting if this works out .....
Pronger to Sens
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No it's not. Scroll down to the bottom paragraph and read for yourself.The Doctor said:*coughs* bullshit! *coughs*
http://www.nypost.com/sports/rangers/15919.htm
I don't see Havlat going the other way. He is averaging more than a point a game in which he play. Too much much talent to be letting go of up fornt. I wouldn't trade Havlat for sure in any deal right now. Rachunek plus someone form Bingo and a draft pick should do it.
Well I guess I'm just in denial, but it is the New York Post afterall.n_v said:No it's not. Scroll down to the bottom paragraph and read for yourself.
http://www.nypost.com/sports/rangers/15919.htm
I think people are getting carried away with the breath of financial properity that has blown through the Capital thanks to Mr. Melnyk. It's nice not to hear them cry poor this year for the first time in a while, but after adding Bondra to the payroll, a trade for Pronger's contract would require clearing out a few major contracts to make it work.
He'd be a great addition but I don't believe they're going to open the vault that much only one year removed from banckrupcy. It's nice to talk about but I think it's too much of a gamble for Melnyk to make and if it's not then the owners only have themselves to blame when they're forced to lock-out the players because of the out-of-control cost structure associated with the game.
When they started the year the war chest that Melnyk reportedly placed aside for additions and new contracts was about 12 to 14 million. So if you take Bondra, Pronger and include 5 million extra for Alfie's new contract you get 19 million.The Doctor said:Well I guess I'm just in denial, but it is the New York Post afterall.
I think people are getting carried away with the breath of financial properity that has blown through the Capital thanks to Mr. Melnyk. It's nice not to hear them cry poor this year for the first time in a while, but after adding Bondra to the payroll, a trade for Pronger's contract would require clearing out a few major contracts to make it work.
He'd be a great addition but I don't believe they're going to open the vault that much only one year removed from banckrupcy.
Rachunek is making 1 million and Leschyshyn (who won't be back next year ) is making 2 million. So 19 - 3 equals 16 million, one more roster player gone who's making 2 million and this deal could happen. I'm not saying it's probable, just possible.
Heck if the Leafs can toss 6.4 million at Leetch next year, why ouldn't Ottawa strongly consider Pronger.
Good luck to them...
Well if that's the case, they better win the cup otherwise they're going to be crying poor again. The dynamics of the Ottawa market have not changed so Eugene is funding these additions and the existing shortfall directly from his own pocket. He's a smart business man who likes to make money...this will definitely test his stomach.
Well if that's the case, they better win the cup otherwise they're going to be crying poor again. The dynamics of the Ottawa market have not changed so Eugene is funding these additions and the existing shortfall directly from his own pocket. He's a smart business man who likes to make money...this will definitely test his stomach.
I think Pronger would be great for Ottawa (or any team in the league). He's a team leader (more than Alfredsson), a horse who logs minutes, clears the front of the net and has offensive abilities. He dominates when he's on the ice.How long have people been saying that Ottawa needs more toughness for the playoffs. He'd be perfect for them and they'd still have lots of offense left without Havlat.
If the Blues get rid of Pronger, it means they're dismantling the team and starting from scratch. Otherwise it's a bad move for them.
If the Blues get rid of Pronger, it means they're dismantling the team and starting from scratch. Otherwise it's a bad move for them.
Re: Good luck to them...
15-20 million payments a year in interest alone. I am not an economics specialist but perhaps someone here could validate the savings. Add in the fact that attendance has increased this year about 8% which puts in another 3-4 million in the coffers of the Sens makes the dymanics very different than last year. Eugene could be paying out of his pocket (I doubt that though), but it is not nearly as much as you may think.
scubadoo - was the 12-14 million set aside the amount after Redden was signed or did Reddens contract dip into that amount?
The dynamics in Ottawa have changed. New ownership. Various figures around the country (TV and print media) have said that the Senators as a hockey operation were viable. Not as rich as the Leafs of course, but not losing money. The downfall to the Sens was their debt from the Corel Centre (220-240 million) and the highway reconstruction (approx. 25 million due to the province) was bringing them down. That was enormous amount in interest alone bringing the hockey side down. With last years bankcruptcy Melnyk was able to buy the whole kit and kibutle (Sens and the arena) for about 130 million CASH - no loan, no payments, no interest. This has relieved the Senators from aboutThe Doctor said:Well if that's the case, they better win the cup otherwise they're going to be crying poor again. The dynamics of the Ottawa market have not changed so Eugene is funding these additions and the existing shortfall directly from his own pocket. He's a smart business man who likes to make money...this will definitely test his stomach.
15-20 million payments a year in interest alone. I am not an economics specialist but perhaps someone here could validate the savings. Add in the fact that attendance has increased this year about 8% which puts in another 3-4 million in the coffers of the Sens makes the dymanics very different than last year. Eugene could be paying out of his pocket (I doubt that though), but it is not nearly as much as you may think.
scubadoo - was the 12-14 million set aside the amount after Redden was signed or did Reddens contract dip into that amount?
Re: Re: Good luck to them...
I know the Sens Chief Operating Officer, he told me this amount which was well after the Rdden signing. It was at the Vancouver game which I believe was Nov 26th. I asked him if they had enough to sign Cujo as I thought then that Lalime was sucking in goal at that time and that the Sens should make a play for him. This was money that was allocated in the fiscal budget for this season.
n_v said:The dynamics in Ottawa have changed. New ownership. Various figures around the country (TV and print media) have said that the Senators as a hockey operation were viable. Not as rich as the Leafs of course, but not losing money. The downfall to the Sens was their debt from the Corel Centre (220-240 million) and the highway reconstruction (approx. 25 million due to the province) was bringing them down. That was enormous amount in interest alone bringing the hockey side down. With last years bankcruptcy Melnyk was able to buy the whole kit and kibutle (Sens and the arena) for about 130 million CASH - no loan, no payments, no interest. This has relieved the Senators from about
15-20 million payments a year in interest alone. I am not an economics specialist but perhaps someone here could validate the savings. Add in the fact that attendance has increased this year about 8% which puts in another 3-4 million in the coffers of the Sens makes the dymanics very different than last year. Eugene could be paying out of his pocket (I doubt that though), but it is not nearly as much as you may think.
scubadoo - was the 12-14 million set aside the amount after Redden was signed or did Reddens contract dip into that amount?
I know the Sens Chief Operating Officer, he told me this amount which was well after the Rdden signing. It was at the Vancouver game which I believe was Nov 26th. I asked him if they had enough to sign Cujo as I thought then that Lalime was sucking in goal at that time and that the Sens should make a play for him. This was money that was allocated in the fiscal budget for this season.
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Ottawa could have drafted Pronger but took **cough** Alexandre Daige who proclaimed "nobody remembers number two"(2nd pick). Pronger has last laugh.
