Pro China rally

[Quest4Less]

I saw on the news that there was a rally in Toronto for "Pro" China - people that believe that China has a right to Tibet and that the Dali Lama is responsible for all the violence....

If these brain washed comunists love China so much then why are they living in Canada?

 

[scouser1]

read closer these were Chinese students studying in Canada, I wouldnt be surprised if they got a call from some official over there who told them to stage this rally or the secret police will pay a visit to mom and dad at 3 am back home.

 

[fuji]

They're really that brainwashed. They grew up in China and learned all kinds of BS that isn't true, they're not even aware of the fact that what they "know" isn't really true. Most of them have no idea that China invaded Tibet. They see that the Chinese govt. treats Han Chinese reasonably well and they assume it treats people in Tibet the same way.

When you grew up believing something and you are fiercely proud of your country it takes a long, long while for even the hardest facts to sink in.

 

[WoodPeckr]

When you grew up believing something and you are fiercely proud of your country it takes a long, long while for even the hardest facts to sink in.

This happens even in the USA.....as exhbited by some of the usual suspects here, on a daily basis....

 

[Aardvark154]

This happens even in the USA.....as exhbited by some of the usual suspects here, on a daily basis...

Entrance from stage left, a woodpecker.

 

[lurkerjoe]

There's also rumours that the people who attend get paid. I've seen it happen before but not sure about this time though.

 

[Polaris]

You guys seem absolutely clueless about today's China & Chinese people.

It's like you're stuck in the past, like the 1970's, LoL!

I would like to flame/educate you guys about it, but in the end, I owe you nothing, so peace out.

BTW, the evidence is mounting that the riot in Tibet was orchastrated, and the Dali Lama has lost control of the more radical elements of the Free Tibet movement.

What will become clear over the next few days & weeks is that the Tibetian destruction against Han & Hui owned business in Lahsa, can be viewed as a terrrorist attack. Tibetian businesses were left alone.

The Free Tibet movement has finally turned terrorist, and in China too. The CCP will act accordingly I think, the Dali Lama & CIA did not have a chance back then, and the new Tibetian terrorist don't have a chance today either. And that is the cold hard truth.

 

[CharliePie]

I thought that in the 1970s, everyone was walking around with their little red book thinking that the cultural revolution actually had to do with culture... But hey, I wasn't around so what can say? Gosh darn it, tell the latest reincarnation of the bodhisattva of compassion to stop holding the Olympics hostage!

 

[CharliePie]

Oh... Yikes. I don't think I have enough of a post history for people to see that I was being facetious in the last part of my post.

 

[fuji]

You guys seem absolutely clueless about today's China & Chinese people.

Ni zai zhongguo dai le dou jiu le?

BTW, the evidence is mounting that the riot in Tibet was orchastrated, and the Dali Lama has lost control of the more radical elements of the Free Tibet movement.

I imagine that there is some sort of grass roots Tibetan resistance that is getting the message out telling people when to protest. How does that change anything?

Which occupied nation's resistance movement do you know of which is not organized at some level? The resistance to Iraq in the US is organized, for example, as is the Palestinian resistance to Israel, or for that matter, as was the French resistance to Germany during the occupation of France.

What will become clear over the next few days & weeks is that the Tibetian destruction against Han & Hui owned business in Lahsa, can be viewed as a terrrorist attack. Tibetian businesses were left alone.

No shit. The Chinese govt. has an active policy of shipping as many Han/Hui Chinese as possible in an attempt to dilute the native Tibetan population. The Tibetans see it as a form of cultural genocide.

They want the Han/Hui Chinese out of their territory.

Calling it "terrorist" though is a reach. Is any violent resistance to an illegal occupation automatically terrorism?

 

[WoodPeckr]

Entrance from stage left, a woodpecker.

LOL!!!

And entering from the far right, on cue, an aardvark!...

 

[Aardvark154]

LOL!!!

And entering from the far right, on cue, an aardvark!...

Not nearly so far to the right as you believe.

 

[WoodPeckr]

You do disguise it well....

 

[Aardvark154]

You do disguise it well....

I'm afraid I can't really return the complement.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I'm afraid I can't really return the complement.

LOL!!!
That was fine enough!...

 

[Cinelli]

Beijing orchestrating Tibet riots

http://buddhism.kalachakranet.org/chinese-orchestrating-riots-tibet.htm

 

[basketcase]

It does seem like some Tibetans are following the example of the Palestinians that the way to get worldwide support of your movement is through violence. Of course this follows 50 years of unsuccessful peaceful protest in Tibet. They even disavowed an armed response in the 50's despite the offer of funding from the CIA.

Beyond that, the Chinese government are doing their best to try and control all the news out of Tibet so their narrative and placing blame on the Tibetans is the only one we hear.

Judging by Sri Lanka and parts of Africa though, the world doesn't seem to have much time when neither of the battling groups are Western, even when their is newsworthy killing (and when the power holders have something we want such as oil or cheap labor).

 

[Damondean]

Where do Chinese SPs stand on this? Any word from TAG or TOG?

 

[scouser1]

It does seem like some Tibetans are following the example of the Palestinians that the way to get worldwide support of your movement is through violence. Of course this follows 50 years of unsuccessful peaceful protest in Tibet. They even disavowed an armed response in the 50's despite the offer of funding from the CIA.

Beyond that, the Chinese government are doing their best to try and control all the news out of Tibet so their narrative and placing blame on the Tibetans is the only one we hear.

Judging by Sri Lanka and parts of Africa though, the world doesn't seem to have much time when neither of the battling groups are Western, even when their is newsworthy killing (and when the power holders have something we want such as oil or cheap labor).

the Palestinian cause has yes been done a great diservice by idiots encouraging 17 year old's to strap a bomb to themselves and get on a bus, but another reason its not cool is that Hollywood hasnt made it cool since oh Vanessa Redgrave might be the only exception I can think of, the Tibetans have Bono, Richard Gere, Brad Pitt and the Beastie Boys, pretty impressive lineup.

cheap labour and oil is a cause for concern in the West, but when the Irish were getting smacked around and denied jobs and decent housing in Belfast and Derry most of the West didnt care.