I am biased against the parasitic monarchy, so I may not be the right one to ask. I would suggest the guillotine. Maybe the little guillotine would be appropriate.
Prince Andy moves to strike Virginia Giuffre's lawsuit based on fraudulent claim of US residence
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I agree with you. She is no victim. She knew exactly what she was doing.
How does that not make her a victim?
Nobody said that she was forced at gunpoint or at risk of bodily harm to sleep with the famous royal.
Don't you understand that she was groomed and brainwashed by Epstein and Maxwell to think it was a dream job to meet Andy?
That is the way pedophiles and pimps work. Maxwell and Epstein found disadvantaged young girls and groomed them.
Britain's Prince Andrew loses military titles
The UK’s Buckingham Palace has announced that Prince Andrew’s “military affiliations and Royal patronages” were returned to the Queen as he faces a sex-abuse civil lawsuit in the US linked to sex offender the late Jeffrey Epstein.
Prince Andrew. © Getty Images / Julian Finney
The announcement was made by the Palace in a brief statement on Thursday.
“With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York's military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen,” the statement reads.
“The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.”
The move comes a day after Prince Andrew’s lawyers failed to persuade a US judge to dismiss the sex-abuse lawsuit against the royal on a technicality. The case revolves around allegations raised by Virginia Giuffre, who claims the prince had engaged with her in sexual activities back in 2001 when she was a minor.
Giuffre claims that she was trafficked to the British royal for sex by late pedophile billionaire Epstein and his recently-convicted associate Ghislaine Maxwell.
Prince Andrew has denied sexually abusing Giuffre, saying in a 2019 interview that he did not recall ever even meeting her. A publicly available photo of the royal, however, shows the prince with his hand around Giuffre’s waist, as the two were pictured in London.
Earlier Thursday, more than 150 military veterans petitioned the Queen to ask her to strip her son of his honorary military roles, and floated the idea to have him dishonorably discharged as well.
“We are particularly upset and angry that Prince Andrew remains a member of the armed forces and continues to hold military titles, positions and ranks, including that of Vice Admiral of the Royal Navy,” the veterans said in an open letter.
The UK’s Buckingham Palace has announced that Prince Andrew’s “military affiliations and Royal patronages” were returned to the Queen as he faces a sex-abuse civil lawsuit in the US linked to sex offender the late Jeffrey Epstein.
Prince Andrew. © Getty Images / Julian Finney
The announcement was made by the Palace in a brief statement on Thursday.
“With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York's military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen,” the statement reads.
“The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.”
The move comes a day after Prince Andrew’s lawyers failed to persuade a US judge to dismiss the sex-abuse lawsuit against the royal on a technicality. The case revolves around allegations raised by Virginia Giuffre, who claims the prince had engaged with her in sexual activities back in 2001 when she was a minor.
Giuffre claims that she was trafficked to the British royal for sex by late pedophile billionaire Epstein and his recently-convicted associate Ghislaine Maxwell.
Prince Andrew has denied sexually abusing Giuffre, saying in a 2019 interview that he did not recall ever even meeting her. A publicly available photo of the royal, however, shows the prince with his hand around Giuffre’s waist, as the two were pictured in London.
Earlier Thursday, more than 150 military veterans petitioned the Queen to ask her to strip her son of his honorary military roles, and floated the idea to have him dishonorably discharged as well.
“We are particularly upset and angry that Prince Andrew remains a member of the armed forces and continues to hold military titles, positions and ranks, including that of Vice Admiral of the Royal Navy,” the veterans said in an open letter.
How did he "groom" them, Danny? He bought them presents? He took them to dinner? He impressed them with his wealth and his connections? He offered them exciting social opportunities? He flattered them?
Isn't that what any male does with any woman that he is trying to get into bed?
The catch with pimps is that the relationship becomes predatory and non consensual very quickly. The girl is forced to work and hand over her $$$ to the pimp.
The catch with pedophiles is that the girl is too young to know that the whole intent is sexual and that the pedophile is dishonest about his intentions. And soon the pedophile becomes overtly sexual.
A 17 year old knows when intentions are sexual. It's not like Epstein was dealing with a 10 year old.
I don't get you on this, Mandrill. It seems out of character for you, and not in a good way. Do you have any daughters? You know how the girls were groomed. It has been widely reported.
What have always impressed me about the Terb membership is its very strong position against trafficking and underage girls.
Without that, I don't know what Terb would be, but I know I would not be here.
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But Danny, the girls are not underaged in any jurisdiction in Europe, or Canada, or 30 of the 50 states in the US, all of which have an age of consent of 16 years.
That's why all the focus on FL, which has an unusually high age of consent at 18 years.
Listen: If these girls were even 15 years old, I would be all for lynching Maxwell, Andy and everyone else. But Giuffre was 17 years old. That's the difference.
Maxwell was found guilty of using underage girls.
Ghislaine Maxwell found guilty of recruiting underage girls to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein
Maxwell was accused of recruiting and grooming four teenagers for Epstein to sexually abuse between 1994 and 2004 at his various properties. She was convicted on five of the six counts she was charged with.
I thought you were a lawyer, and knew the law in Canada. Here is a section from
Individuals under 18 years old cannot consent to sex where:
- The other consenting party is in a position of trust, authority or there is a dependency on that person
- There is an activity of exploitation (i.e. pornography, sex work/prostitution).
I sincerely hope - and trust - that NO Terb member would see a 17 year old SP, who had been flown in From China or Vietnam by a trafficker..
Tell me how Epstein or Maxwell were in a position of trust or authority?..... That's for step dads and hockey coaches.
And tell me how it's prostitution or sex work when there is no fee for service and time allotted?..... Sugar-daddying or dating payoffs are perfectly legal.
I think you are climbing out onto very thin branches, councel.
I cannot believe that anyone would question that Epstein, Maxwell and Andy all were in a position of trust and authority.
And who in their right mind can argue that the girl was not trafficked?
I repeat: I trust that NO Terb member would see a 17 year old SP that was trafficked from Asia. Please tell me if I am wrong.
Come on Mandy, you are not paid to defend these characters in court and invent outrageous arguments.
I certainly would not knowingly see a 17-year-old.
But there your argument runs dry. A 17 year old SP is trafficked and pimped. No question. A 17 year old who meets a 50 year old multi millionaire and "parties" with him and his middle-aged friends and is given presents and taken to upscale resorts isn't a prostitute by definition.
It's why Seeking Arrangment hasn't been busted by the Feds for pimping.
Glad to hear that.
Both Epstein and Maxwell were convicted of pimping and Maxwell's of Trafficking.
Epstein pleaded guilty and was convicted in 2008 by a Florida state court of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute
Read the indictment of Maxwell: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6978750-U-S-v-Ghislaine-Maxwell-Indictment
The indictment is for recruiting girls for the purpose of prostitution and trafficking.
We’ve all been commenting on the thread topic regarding Prince Andrew and the Virginia case.
We find it hard to see a crime in that situation.
The other incidents are not relevant to this thread.
Flying first class, dancing in VIP areas with Naomi Campbell and snogging Randy Andy is being trafficked.
I’m not foolish enough to fall for any of their tricks but a lot of 17 year olds know what they are doing and it’s a question of who’s grooming who.
For example, Google Katerina Deme (I won’t post her pic she’s 17)
She is well aware of her attributes and is using them to get ahead and all power to her.
For example, Google Katerina Deme (I won’t post her pic she’s 17)
She is well aware of her attributes and is using them to get ahead and all power to her.
Maxwell was found guilty of using a 14 year girl as well.
The question should be was she or someone else around that age around Andy.
