Prince Andy moves to strike Virginia Giuffre's lawsuit based on fraudulent claim of US residence
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I was always on the fence about whether the monarchy was worth holding onto…. I think it’s time it ended. I think Canada needs to end our relationship with it.
In intro to business law we learned that to plead equity you have to have clean hands....
It's not equity, it's jurisdiction. You have to establish a connection to a jurisdiction, to use it as a forum.
Neither one lives in CO. And if there is no other connection to that forum, then they might decline jurisdiction.
It's not an equity claim anyway. It's common law. So clean hands wouldn't be a barrier.
We all know that the legal systems in USA and UK do the bidding of the powerful. The bastards will avoid any consequences of his crimes.
Virginia Giuffre should consider herself lucky she's not Peng Shuai. Prince Andrew is a Saint, he single-handedly defeated the Argentine military.
Actually, jurisdiction caselaw is well know and there's a long line of precedents in each jurisdiction. If Giuffre lied to bring herself within the jurisdiction of a venue with lax limitation period laws and enticing liability and damages law, she may be sol.
OK, let us cut to the chase:
Do you believe Andy had sex with Guffey when she was a minor?
Do you think there is any chance in hell Andy will be convicted?
As I have posted many times before, the job of the legal profession is to protect the interests of the people in power.
Probably. I think that's why most of them hung out with Epstein.
I also think that Giuffre cashed in then and is cashing in now. I don't see her as a genuine victim.
It's a civil suit. I think he's potentially liable for damages.
Depending on which part of the US it happened, it may or may not be legal to have sex with someone under 18 years of age.
But let's do it this way. If it happened in Canada - the age of consent to a sex act is 16 years of age. (CC s. 150). That means our legislature picked this as a SAFE point at which to assume that someone is emotionally and mentally mature enough to assess whether they wished to have sex with another individual and agree to it. (We're leaving aside situation where the person concerned is financially vulnerable and is coerced or pressured into having sex - and these would not apply to Giuffre in any event).
Giuffre was 17 years old at the time of the offences. She was recruited when working as a massage attendant at Mar-a-Lago and must have been compensated for her companionship. It doesn't jump out at me that this is a case of gross exploitation. Or that she was clearly too young to know what was going on.
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I think you are a very good lawyer, congratulations. Your points, as I see it is:
1. She was not really a minor, because in Swahililand a minor is defined as being under 12.
2. She was massage girl.
3. She knew that she had sex with Andy.
You forgot the most important point in defending Andy, namely that he is the son of the Queen and therefore can do no wrong.
Yes, they shagged (she was most likely a willing participant)
No, nothing will come of it
Side trivia: she was legal age under UK law. In Canada Harper raised the age of consent; ironically his justice ministry Toews banged and impregnated the babysitter.
I wish I was coerced and trafficked like Giuffre. I’d have partied with royalty, Naomi Campbell etc and flown around first class. I think she milked her situation then and she’s milking it now. Shes insulting real victims of human trafficking.
You don't understand... the job of the legal profession is to defend all people, the law and the legal system... the law and the legal system protects the interests of the people in power.
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Judge: Prince Andrew can't halt lawsuit with domicile claim
A judge has rejected Prince Andrew's attempt to block the progression of a lawsuit by claiming that a woman who says he sexually assaulted her when she was 17 doesn't live in the U.S.
apnews.com
Judge rules lawsuit can proceed and that it is premature to raise the jurisdiction issue at this point. The issue itself has not been legally disposed of.
Do you really think that Canada actually HAS a relationship with the British monarchy. We keep them around because the Brits are dumb enough to pay for them and give us a free titular head of state. If we had to foot the bill, they'd be gone tomorrow and Justin would appoint a transsexual native Canadian as the new head of state.
The Brits love all that shit about being given meaningless bullshit titles of nobility and being invited to the palace for 10 minutes to formally bow to the Queen. No Canuck would put up with that shit for a second!
