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"Preferred minimum for new clients" why?

Platon

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I noticed that some indies put that in which usually means booking for 1.5 hour but I can't understand why. I mean ok, they get more money unless the guy develops "I'm sending the money, I'm calling the shots attitude" but it also means that they can be stuck with somebody they don't like or don't get along with for longer than needed. It also means that the guy may be stuck in the same situation.

I came across one of those twitter indies today and remembered how I saw her back in the day for one hour out of which only 25 min were of productive time because I couldn't even go down on her due to unpleasant odor from her vag, so after my first go at it I couldn't even think of doing it again and ended up having a rather awkward conversation until I was 45 min into the session at with point I just left.

To me it seems slightly shortsighted but can somebody chip in as to what the marketing move is all about?
 

asuran

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Who? What? Where?

I've not noticed that at all. Then again there is already an abundance of providers here on terb that doesn't have that and I don't need to look anywhere else.

Just look for providers that fit your what you are looking for. No need to look over the fence.
Stay in the lane you are comfortable with.
 

TFZL1

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Who? What? Where?

I've not noticed that at all. Then again there is already an abundance of providers here on terb that doesn't have that and I don't need to look anywhere else.

Just look for providers that fit your what you are looking for. No need to look over the fence.
Stay in the lane you are comfortable with.
I’ve seen that some ladies have changed to 1.5 hr for first meet up.
I’ve done that a couple times. One, about 2 yrs ago, she looked really really hot, just wasn’t all that good in bed. She thought really highly of herself and I’d never repeat. Heard later she was a bit of a drama queen, I haven’t seen her advertise and lost track of name changes, so I assume she left the business or left town.
The other, earlier this year. It was an outcall because I happened to be staying at a downtown hotel.
She showed up on time, she didn’t look as good as her pics, (she’d put on some pounds and the glammer shots were posed) but more than made up for it in services and good attitude. I really liked her and booked again, for a longer date. She cancelled. :( Haven’t seen her since and now she’s jacked up her rates, so I’ll never see her again. :(
 

waterloodude

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I think the idea is to provide some built in time to get acquainted first before the festivities begin. Sort of like a 1/2 social date immediately followed by a 1hr regular date. There is a risk as you mention of zero connection between the parties involved, in which case that 1.5hr might seem like forever. But it also might make things a bit more relaxed for a first time encounter so less rush and pressure involved which may help. Not sure I would book a session like that without getting a better sense ahead of time that's there is a good chance we will click.
 

squeezer

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An hour is a chore when there is no chemistry let alone paying for an hour and a half. Then there is the glamorized look most are using now which is nothing like the lady you find at the incall or outcall.

It's best to stick with agencies or an indy who doesn't act like she's God's gift to men. If the chemistry is there, the second visit can be a longer deal and both parties happy.
 

shack

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No need to delve too deeply into this development. It is simply a way to get booked for a longer time. End of story.
 

sweetiepieexo

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I think a lady should chime in here so here it goes.....

One of the main reasons you could be running into girls only providing hh / hr services is because backpage is down so fifteen mins for 60-80$ just doesn't cut it anymore. It may also because guys who look for "budget friendly sps" can be aggressive , arrogant, and rude.
Another reason could be because the girl prefers longer appointments because in fifteen it feels a little rushed and you cant really get to know each other. Im sure most would agree with that statement.. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. Most ladies prefer hh/hr appointments anyways. Yes hh and hr is more expensive than a sns visit but in the end IMHO its worth it because then you can figure out what each other like.
 

Platon

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I think a lady should chime in here so here it goes.....

One of the main reasons you could be running into girls only providing hh / hr services is because backpage is down so fifteen mins for 60-80$ just doesn't cut it anymore. It may also because guys who look for "budget friendly sps" can be aggressive , arrogant, and rude.
Another reason could be because the girl prefers longer appointments because in fifteen it feels a little rushed and you cant really get to know each other. Im sure most would agree with that statement.. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. Most ladies prefer hh/hr appointments anyways. Yes hh and hr is more expensive than a sns visit but in the end IMHO its worth it because then you can figure out what each other like.
Just to clarify I wasn't talking about 15 min appointments, I even doubt that there are ladies who provide them. I think a 40-45 min or an hr is a good length appointment especially as a first time appointment. What boggles my mind is how some seem to be thinking that time with them is guaranteed to be perfect, which is far from reality, at least in my experience. As someone mentioned what you find at the door is not always what you expect and reviews are very subjective. By definition they must have awful first time appointments which are tortuously long for them and their clients. But I guess money always wins, as someone here already mentioned. I asked the question to see if there is a good explanation or some clever marketing move behind the strategy. I guess I'm growing old and the world is changing faster than I can adapt :)
 

JohnHenry

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I think a lady should chime in here so here it goes.....

One of the main reasons you could be running into girls only providing hh / hr services is because backpage is down so fifteen mins for 60-80$ just doesn't cut it anymore. It may also because guys who look for "budget friendly sps" can be aggressive , arrogant, and rude.
Another reason could be because the girl prefers longer appointments because in fifteen it feels a little rushed and you cant really get to know each other. Im sure most would agree with that statement.. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. Most ladies prefer hh/hr appointments anyways. Yes hh and hr is more expensive than a sns visit but in the end IMHO its worth it because then you can figure out what each other like.
You should re-read the original post. He is talking about providers who charge 300 per hour asking for a minimum 90 minute visit for new clients.
 

VIPChloe

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We prefer minimums to get to know you, like a date. We actually treat it like one. These preferred minimums are tailored for these types of experiences.

You guys realize that there is correspondence that exists before a girl opens her door right? Multiple emails for sure, so you mitigate the risk of not liking somebody when you finally meet them. For a multi-hour date, I need to make damn sure we are compatible. That takes more than a couple text exchanges. For these dates, we aren’t marketing towards clients who prefer 1-hour sessions and are focused on a different experience, this is more on the GFE experience that encompasses intimacy on different levels simultaneously. Not everybody desires this, but some do and for many ladies, it’s preferable. This is more on the blind date side of things, which many clients treat as such. Some prefer the flirty banter of getting to know somebody over wine and letting things build naturally and slowly. Once again, this is only one type of experience and more for those who enjoy it. Not everybody is this way and many providers offer less time for those clients seeking something else.

People have to understand and give some of these girls credit. For those who offer half hours, agency girls specifically for example, there is virtually no correspondence between the two parties before a door is opened. She has to make a split decision and be intimate with a guy she hasn’t said two words to, let alone seen before. Some people find this nervewracking or awkward and prefer to ease into things. I see some reviews written of a girl not giving the right type of hello the guy might be used to and I think it’s wild. She’s never spoken to him before and expects her to be a psychic? Not everyone is an extrovert, nor are we mind readers. Some people need a couple minutes and this definitely goes both ways, which is why there is somebody for everyone. Sure it’s preferable to get paid more always, but if I’m getting paid regardless, I’d like to have the ability to do it the way I like.

There isn’t one right way to escort, same way there isn’t one right type of client. It’s all about preferences and being able to enjoy these experiences the way you want, for both parties. The marketing is about catering to a different audience. I’d personally rather see one person I enjoy over a longer period of time, than many short 30-minute appointments with gentlemen I might be less inclined to see again. Once again, there is a vetting process via email or text that goes beyond the logistics simply being available to set up an appointment. Can they formulate sentences and follow booking instructions? Do they describe themselves and their likes and desires in detail? Do they compliment me or mention something I’ve said or worn so I can tailor their experience to their liking? It’s a completely different type of date setting I’m creating. It’s ultimately for my client’s enjoyment, but many tend to forget it’s also for mine.
 

Platon

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There isn’t one right way to escort, same way there isn’t one right type of client. It’s all about preferences and being able to enjoy these experiences the way you want, for both parties.
Not saying that there is Chloe. You certainly have a point there as far as intimacy with strangers is concerned. I just never thought about it that way. In my experience I usually know within the first minute if I am going to have a good time or not, it must be different for the ladies although decision to be in this profession should probably take that into consideration. I mean isn't it possible that even after the first 30 min you know that you just have to do what you have to do although there is no connection/chemistry/desire etc.?
 

VIPChloe

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Not saying that there is Chloe. You certainly have a point there as far as intimacy with strangers is concerned. I just never thought about it that way. In my experience I usually know within the first minute if I am going to have a good time or not, it must be different for the ladies although decision to be in this profession should probably take that into consideration. I mean isn't it possible that even after the first 30 min you know that you just have to do what you have to do although there is no connection/chemistry/desire etc.?
Just like any job has its shitty days or parts to it, so do ours. If for some reason prior to an appointment, I haven’t discovered that I don’t like somebody and I discover it during? I continue and finish that appointment like a professional and leave when I’m supposed to. Or I’d cancel that appointment right there if it went that terrible and refund whatever it was. Thankfully I haven’t had to do that yet, but we ALL do some sort of risk assessment for this thing before choosing to be a provider, if it’s worth it or not. Sometimes with appointments too.

It goes into consideration when choosing this profession, but you have to remember that we also have the power to dictate our surroundings within reason and choose which clients we’d like to see. We don’t have to say yes. Some of us are in positions to be able to decline appointments that we believe may not be enjoyable. Most of the women listing preferred minimum are probably in this position. It also usually has nothing to do with physical attraction. I’m not attracted to most of my clients but there are many I cherish and love to hang out with because of their other qualities. Being kind, funny, generous of course, etc. Basic likeable personality traits that make anybody enjoyable to be around. Being able to fabricate a physical connection is escorting 101. That’s no secret though.
 

LT56

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We prefer minimums to get to know you, like a date. We actually treat it like one. These preferred minimums are tailored for these types of experiences.

You guys realize that there is correspondence that exists before a girl opens her door right? Multiple emails for sure, so you mitigate the risk of not liking somebody when you finally meet them. For a multi-hour date, I need to make damn sure we are compatible. That takes more than a couple text exchanges. For these dates, we aren’t marketing towards clients who prefer 1-hour sessions and are focused on a different experience, this is more on the GFE experience that encompasses intimacy on different levels simultaneously. Not everybody desires this, but some do and for many ladies, it’s preferable. This is more on the blind date side of things, which many clients treat as such. Some prefer the flirty banter of getting to know somebody over wine and letting things build naturally and slowly. Once again, this is only one type of experience and more for those who enjoy it. Not everybody is this way and many providers offer less time for those clients seeking something else.

People have to understand and give some of these girls credit. For those who offer half hours, agency girls specifically for example, there is virtually no correspondence between the two parties before a door is opened. She has to make a split decision and be intimate with a guy she hasn’t said two words to, let alone seen before. Some people find this nervewracking or awkward and prefer to ease into things. I see some reviews written of a girl not giving the right type of hello the guy might be used to and I think it’s wild. She’s never spoken to him before and expects her to be a psychic? Not everyone is an extrovert, nor are we mind readers. Some people need a couple minutes and this definitely goes both ways, which is why there is somebody for everyone. Sure it’s preferable to get paid more always, but if I’m getting paid regardless, I’d like to have the ability to do it the way I like.

There isn’t one right way to escort, same way there isn’t one right type of client. It’s all about preferences and being able to enjoy these experiences the way you want, for both parties. The marketing is about catering to a different audience. I’d personally rather see one person I enjoy over a longer period of time, than many short 30-minute appointments with gentlemen I might be less inclined to see again. Once again, there is a vetting process via email or text that goes beyond the logistics simply being available to set up an appointment. Can they formulate sentences and follow booking instructions? Do they describe themselves and their likes and desires in detail? Do they compliment me or mention something I’ve said or worn so I can tailor their experience to their liking? It’s a completely different type of date setting I’m creating. It’s ultimately for my client’s enjoyment, but many tend to forget it’s also for mine.
Interesting to read your post. I had heard from other sp’s that multiple texts and emails from clients before or after an appointment were unwelcome and unwanted. Such communications were viewed as a waste of the escort’s time and a red flag that the guy would be too clingy and a bad client.

Like you say...different escorts do things differently.
 

oil&gas

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Thankfully none of my favourite MPAs in the past ever
demanded a 90 min introductory session. It was always
45 min for the first visit. And I never had problem with
getting to know them over time.
 

VIPChloe

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Interesting to read your post. I had heard from other sp’s that multiple texts and emails from clients before or after an appointment were unwelcome and unwanted. Such communications were viewed as a waste of the escort’s time and a red flag that the guy would be too clingy and a bad client.

Like you say...different escorts do things differently.
Yes precisely. Some don’t do things this way and that’s cool. They’ve figured out what works for their lifestyle and provider/client relationship. But for me? They are welcomed. Those clients turn into regulars I keep in touch with and see regularly.

I tailor my appointments based on things I’ve observed during correspondence.
 

VIPChloe

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Thankfully none of my favourite MPAs in the past ever
demanded a 90 min introductory session. It was always
45 min for the first visit. And I never had problem with
getting to know them over time.
Here’s the thing though. You’re already a regular for providers who don’t offer this sort of thing. So these minimums some other people prefer don’t concern you and like I’ve stated before, different strokes for different folks. So it shouldn’t really matter because you aren’t the target audience. It shouldn’t be taken as a slight for anyone who feels it’s peculiar because for the one person who doesn’t, it’s worked and both people are happy.

Of course you’ve never had a problem getting to know somebody over time. Nobody has that problem. This is all about preferences other people have who shouldn’t be faulted for it. Nobody is demanding anything at all.

Remember these are simply preferred minimums you guys. Not mandatory. Doesn’t mean a provider isn’t able to make it work in less time. She just prefers longer. Even for the people who don’t explicitly list it, you can see it’s obvious in their rate structure. $300 per hour, but $500 for 2? Some providers may be telling you the same exact thing discreetly.
 

shack

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Yes hh and hr is more expensive than a sns visit but in the end IMHO its worth it because then you can figure out what each other like.
I disagree, but in a way I think you will agree with.

Even 30 minutes is not enough. I never booked for less than an hour. Drinks, chat, gradual build up always made for a good time for all involved.
 

LT56

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It is one thing to prefer it and another to demand it.
I suppose they can demand anything they like. Guys don’t have to book them.

At the same time, I don’t think the escorts should look disparagingly on guys who don’t want see them because of their rates, minimum time requirements, etc.
 

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Why do you guys always jump to the conclusion we're all out to screw you over? .
Tthat is because most of us have been screwed over, and not just once but on several occasions, nobody likes to be ripped off of their hard earned money - on the flip side I have met some very nice ladies as well
 
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