Pot Shops raided today

[SchlongConery]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-marijuana-shops-warrants-1.3601413

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...d-drug-squad-raid-marijuana-dispensaries.html

Toronto police and the Drug Squad have been raiding a series of marijuana dispensaries in the city since noon on Thursday in an investigation targeting the trafficking of marijuana outside of the marijuana for medical purposes legislation.
Through the investigation, called Project Claudia, members of the Toronto police drug squad and front line officers, in partnership with the City of Toronto, have issued a series of search and arrest warrants, according to Toronto police.
“Members of the Toronto police drug squad were supported by front-line officers, city of Toronto municipal investigation services in executing a number of search warrants,” said Const. Caroline de Kloet.
“The name of the project is Project Claudia. The project targeted various locations that have been identified as trafficking in marijuana outside of the marijuana-for-medical-use regulations.”
At least two dispensaries were being raided in Kensington Market: THC on Baldwin St. and Cannawide on Kensington Ave. where at least a dozen officers in the neighbourhood were on scene.

De Kloet said Police Chief Mark Saunders will hold a news conference Friday at 10:30 a.m. at police headquarters, where he will reveal the locations raided, the number and type of charges, and the drugs seized.
City spokeswoman Tammy Robbinson confirmed the licensing department is involved in the raids but had no further information.
As of Wednesday, licensing had issued warning notices to 78 property owners out of a known 83 medical marijuana dispensaries.
Mayor John Tory did not respond to request for comments on the raids Thursday but the mayor talked about “these so-called dispensaries, which are bogus” on CP24 the previous night.
“You know what they are? They are the people who were chased out of Vancouver when they brought in a licensing system and they all said that’s no problem we’ll go down to Toronto,” Tory said.
“They’re conducting activities that are not within the law and I just think we can’t have them popping up on every street corner and near schools and messing up the livelihood trying to be earned by small business.”
The number of dispensaries that have been raided in the city is still unclear.

 

[anonemouse]

What the hell is the point? If the law is going to legalize it before this reaches trial, why bother? I wonder if they're trying to distract us from the Forcillo sentencing.

 

[Intrepid416]

What the hell is the point? If the law is going to legalize it before this reaches trial, why bother? I wonder if they're trying to distract us from the Forcillo sentencing.

As Frank Underwood might say regarding your theory --- "You might say that --- I couldn't possibly comment". It is, of course, a distraction and very deliberate from that rather important case. Hardly a coincidence.

 

[SchlongConery]

What the hell is the point? If the law is going to legalize it before this reaches trial, why bother? I wonder if they're trying to distract us from the Forcillo sentencing.

Because, for now the sale of non-medicinal marijuana is still illegal, as are the hops themselves in terms of city licensing. The city has received many complaints about the proliferation of these shops popping up everywhere.

As for the tin foil hat. It was a local munciipal political decision by John Tory, not some cops wanting to defer attention from the final day of sentencing submissions The actual sentencing of Forcillo will not likely occur for at least a month or more while the Judge reviews the submissions, does his research and writes and releases his decision.

 

[Butler1000]

What the hell is the point? If the law is going to legalize it before this reaches trial, why bother? I wonder if they're trying to distract us from the Forcillo sentencing.

Point being the product is still illegal to sell except via certain amount providers. And that the product being sold by these illegals hasn't been vetted for how good it is. For all you know it's laced with rat poison.

I have no issues with pot smoking. But these purveyors are fly by night and refuse to abide by licensing rules. What does that tell you about the type of business people they are?

 

[Frankfooter]

Because, for now the sale of non-medicinal marijuana is still illegal, as are the hops themselves in terms of city licensing. The city has received many complaints about the proliferation of these shops popping up everywhere.

As for the tin foil hat. It was a local munciipal political decision by John Tory, not some cops wanting to defer attention from the final day of sentencing submissions The actual sentencing of Forcillo will not likely occur for at least a month or more while the Judge reviews the submissions, does his research and writes and releases his decision.

But by the time these case hit trial they could be legal.

 

[IM469]

Point being the product is still illegal to sell except via certain amount providers. And that the product being sold by these illegals hasn't been vetted for how good it is. For all you know it's laced with rat poison.

I have no issues with pot smoking. But these purveyors are fly by night and refuse to abide by licensing rules. What does that tell you about the type of business people they are?

+1

Of course you may find a lot of very mellow cops manning the radar traps ....

 

[SchlongConery]

But by the time these case hit trial they could be legal.

Yes, but in the meantime, if the charges weren't laid to nip it in the "bud", these drug dealing stores could very quickly pop up all over the place and become a real nuisance. Never mind that organized crime would likely get a strong retail foothold, that so many unlicensed shops could result in the inability to police them for harder drugs etc

Look, I'm all for decriminalizing marijuana. I don't smoke it but I think that the incidental harms to society that result from criminalization are far worse than the consumption by those who want or need to consume it. But I think that establishing a legal framework is important.

The city has jurisdiction on land use and planning. It is what stops your neighbour from opening a 24 convenience store from his garage. Same applies to pot shops or car washes or where you can operate a coffee shop or nightclub.

 

[Butler1000]

But by the time these case hit trial they could be legal.

They won't be. The Liberal plan is to limit the suppliers and sellers to gov't approved ones. These mom and pops won't be legal ever.

 

[trippingwalker]

I just got back from Amsterdam and legalization is a horrible idea... who cares about "safe and legal access to cannabis" when a cannabis cup-winning strain costs up to $17 EURO per gram?

Every coffee shop in amsterdam agrees that legalization was a very bad idea for everyone who loves cannabis... I'd rather it remain illegal (though i have my doctor's prescription to keep my rights in check) and cannabis keep all it's counter cultural cache... cannabis always has been the first key you need to unlock your mind. No one should have to pay a 40% tax (Amsterdam) to turn on their mind (or turn it off, whatever floats your boat, i don't judge how others make use of substance intoxication)

just my 2 cents... and I love this city.

 

[SkyRider]

These pot shops are merely following the "Uber Model". Do what you want even if it is illegal. Rules are for taxi drivers, not us.

 

[jcpro]

I just got back from Amsterdam and legalization is a horrible idea... who cares about "safe and legal access to cannabis" when a cannabis cup-winning strain costs up to $17 EURO per gram?

Every coffee shop in amsterdam agrees that legalization was a very bad idea for everyone who loves cannabis... I'd rather it remain illegal (though i have my doctor's prescription to keep my rights in check) and cannabis keep all it's counter cultural cache... cannabis always has been the first key you need to unlock your mind. No one should have to pay a 40% tax (Amsterdam) to turn on their mind (or turn it off, whatever floats your boat, i don't judge how others make use of substance intoxication)

just my 2 cents... and I love this city.

Don't buy it at a café. Get it from the guy, instead.

 

[jcpro]

All they want is headlines. Reminded of the time when they were raiding gay bathouses. Why oh why government wants to be in the morality business is beyond me. Especially when drugs of all kinds are a mere phone call away. My guy even delivers.

 

[frankcastle]

I just got back from Amsterdam and legalization is a horrible idea... who cares about "safe and legal access to cannabis" when a cannabis cup-winning strain costs up to $17 EURO per gram?

Every coffee shop in amsterdam agrees that legalization was a very bad idea for everyone who loves cannabis... I'd rather it remain illegal (though i have my doctor's prescription to keep my rights in check) and cannabis keep all it's counter cultural cache... cannabis always has been the first key you need to unlock your mind. No one should have to pay a 40% tax (Amsterdam) to turn on their mind (or turn it off, whatever floats your boat, i don't judge how others make use of substance intoxication)

just my 2 cents... and I love this city.

At this point many of the places were charging 35/70 for 3.5 and 7 grams of pot which is pretty much street prices.

My buddy bought a chocolate bar with 8 pieces for $12 and one piece was enough to have him looped for hours and he is not a novice.

I think cafes have to price is competitively otherwise people will continue to buy from dealers.

Or you have people like me who don't have a pot contact who don't mind paying a premium for choice and convenience. When I did have contacts there was zero choice. You bought what they had on hand. In the café you have dozens of choices.

As for cultural cache it's been declining for the last 50 years. In another 10 years most of the politician will have grown up in a much more pot permissive age.

 

[jcpro]

At this point many of the places were charging 35/70 for 3.5 and 7 grams of pot which is pretty much street prices.

My buddy bought a chocolate bar with 8 pieces for $12 and one piece was enough to have him looped for hours and he is not a novice.

I think cafes have to price is competitively otherwise people will continue to buy from dealers.

Or you have people like me who don't have a pot contact who don't mind paying a premium for choice and convenience. When I did have contacts there was zero choice. You bought what they had on hand. In the café you have dozens of choices.

As for cultural cache it's been declining for the last 50 years. In another 10 years most of the politician will have grown up in a much more pot permissive age.

You're posting on a sex for hire forum. Next time you see a lady, ask her to hook you up(if you so wish). All my multi hour visits include a mind bending break and a snack- for medicinal purposes, of course. I'm not a spring chicken anymore.

 

[whitewaterguy]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-marijuana-shops-warrants-1.3601413

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...d-drug-squad-raid-marijuana-dispensaries.html

Toronto police and the Drug Squad have been raiding a series of marijuana dispensaries in the city since noon on Thursday in an investigation targeting the trafficking of marijuana outside of the marijuana for medical purposes legislation.
Through the investigation, called Project Claudia, members of the Toronto police drug squad and front line officers, in partnership with the City of Toronto, have issued a series of search and arrest warrants, according to Toronto police.
“Members of the Toronto police drug squad were supported by front-line officers, city of Toronto municipal investigation services in executing a number of search warrants,” said Const. Caroline de Kloet.
“The name of the project is Project Claudia. The project targeted various locations that have been identified as trafficking in marijuana outside of the marijuana-for-medical-use regulations.”
At least two dispensaries were being raided in Kensington Market: THC on Baldwin St. and Cannawide on Kensington Ave. where at least a dozen officers in the neighbourhood were on scene.

De Kloet said Police Chief Mark Saunders will hold a news conference Friday at 10:30 a.m. at police headquarters, where he will reveal the locations raided, the number and type of charges, and the drugs seized.
City spokeswoman Tammy Robbinson confirmed the licensing department is involved in the raids but had no further information.
As of Wednesday, licensing had issued warning notices to 78 property owners out of a known 83 medical marijuana dispensaries.
Mayor John Tory did not respond to request for comments on the raids Thursday but the mayor talked about “these so-called dispensaries, which are bogus” on CP24 the previous night.
“You know what they are? They are the people who were chased out of Vancouver when they brought in a licensing system and they all said that’s no problem we’ll go down to Toronto,” Tory said.
“They’re conducting activities that are not within the law and I just think we can’t have them popping up on every street corner and near schools and messing up the livelihood trying to be earned by small business.”
The number of dispensaries that have been raided in the city is still unclear.

This cop needs a uniform makeover..from shorts, to socks and shoes....wtf kind of outfit is that!?!?!?!. TOTAL knob

 

[frankcastle]

You're posting on a sex for hire forum. Next time you see a lady, ask her to hook you up(if you so wish). All my multi hour visits include a mind bending break and a snack- for medicinal purposes, of course. I'm not a spring chicken anymore.

Just because it is possible to get it illegally doesn't mean people shouldn't have access to a legal and more convenient way to get it.

To put it another way I could download tons of music or movies etc but things like Netflix and Spotify provide me with a legal way to consume media.

 

[kugel1]

You are aware that the cops uniform isn't their own personal choice, right? It is provided by the police service, including the shoes. The socks have to be dark blue / black. So tell me again how he is a knob for wearing his issued uniform?

 

[frankcastle]

You are aware that the cops uniform isn't their own personal choice, right? It is provided by the police service, including the shoes. The socks have to be dark blue / black. So tell me again how he is a knob for wearing his issued uniform?

Think he just meant that the police force needs to redesign the uniform.

 

[jcpro]

Just because it is possible to get it illegally doesn't mean people shouldn't have access to a legal and more convenient way to get it.

To put it another way I could download tons of music or movies etc but things like Netflix and Spotify provide me with a legal way to consume media.

I completely agree, but I also refuse to be ripped off. I would rather buy at a retail locations, but if we're talking another LCBO nightmare, I'm not interested.