Poor Bastards in New Orleans. . . Not again

[dj1470]

Almost one year to the day of Hurricane Katrina's landfall another current Hurricane ERNESTO is predicted to hit the New Orleans region sometime this coming Friday. Presently it's a severe tropical storm nearing Jamaica. GWB is scheduled to visit New Orleans on Tuesday during the Katrina Anniversary. I really feel for these poor people down there. First, they'll have to stomach GWB then another hurricane. Geez.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at5+shtml/204939.shtml?5day

 

[fantasiafan]

Well, it doesnt have to be this way, how many billion a day is the war costing?

 

[Master Muse]

New Orleans

New Orleans was always a dysfunctional city; corrupt as can be and with an extreme crime rate. The local politicos stole much of the $$ meant for levees and kept the locals on the hand-out plantation. Those locals who went to Houston, e.g., are being invited to leave asap. In the year of re-locaation, many wasted the money from their fellow citizens, the federal government and private charities.

Were it up to me, I'd not spend a nickel on re-building that wasteland; I' let it revert to the natural swamp it should be not the human swamp it will become again.

 

[fantasiafan]

Picture this: Conspiracy Theory - You heard it here first

The 'elite' are waiting for New Orleans to get ravaged again so that all the poor and corrupt are forced to leave. Then they buy up all the land at dirt cheap, build crazy levees, and build it into a restored, nice, rich, mans getaway with minimal street crime, but corrupt white collared crime cashing in tons.......

 

[Rocket Man]

It's a tropical storm, New Orleans has been through many tropical storms. Katrina was a category 5 hurricane, there's a big difference between a tropical storm and a hurricane. I think the media may be blowing this out of proportion to create drama.

 

[glaeken]

It's a tropical storm, New Orleans has been through many tropical storms. Katrina was a category 5 hurricane, there's a big difference between a tropical storm and a hurricane. I think the media may be blowing this out of proportion to create drama.

All hurricanes start off as tropical storms and The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is not really known for trying to create drama.

 

[Rocket Man]

All hurricanes start off as tropical storms and The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is not really known for trying to create drama.

Last year at this time Katrina was a hurricane category 3 when it had entered the Gulf of Mexico. Actually it hit Florida as a category 1, then came back and gained momentum. By the time it hi New Orleans it was a category 5. This tropical storm may not become a hurricane, and if it does it will be mild. I'm not saying that NOAA is creating drama, I'm saying that the media is.

 

[glaeken]

Last year at this time Katrina was a hurricane category 3 when it had entered the Gulf of Mexico. Actually it hit Florida as a category 1, then came back and gained momentum. By the time it hi New Orleans it was a category 5. This tropical storm may not become a hurricane, and if it does it will be mild. I'm not saying that NOAA is creating drama, I'm saying that the media is.

That's true but you implied that it would stay a tropical storm by the time it hit New Orleans. I was merely pointing out that tropical storms don't always stay that way. Also, according to the link dj1470 provided it is NOAA (not the media) that is predicting it will be a hurricane by the time it hits Cuba early Mon afternoon while on track to the New Orleans area. Although, to be fair, even NOAA is not predicting it will still be a hurricane when it hits New Orleans. It's too early to make that determination.

 

[Rocket Man]

That's true but you implied that it would stay a tropical storm by the time it hit New Orleans. I was merely pointing out that tropical storms don't always stay that way. Also, according to the link dj1470 provided it is NOAA (not the media) that is predicting it will be a hurricane by the time it hits Cuba early Mon afternoon while on track to the New Orleans area. Although, to be fair, even NOAA is not predicting it will still be a hurricane when it hits New Orleans. It's too early to make that determination.

Before I read this thread on terb, I heard it about it on several news stations. That's why I think it's just the media blowing this story out of proportion.

 

[Asterix]

The first potential hurricane of the year. The area it might land is still fairly wide. There'll be more and bigger ones to come. New Orleans is presently more likely vulnerable to a major storm than it was before Katrina. The US Army Corp of Engineers has acknowledged that the work is not complete restoring the levee and canal wall system, and that there may be areas weakened by Katrina that have not yet been discovered. New Orleans is essentially a bowl, and a bowl that is sinking more every year. If storms increase in intensity over the coming years, as they are predicted, at some point we'd have to face the realization that areas at most risk, such as the low lying parts of New Orleans and the many coastal islands in the Gulf, aren't worth rebuilding.

 

[High_Roller]

If I'm not mistaken, the French and the Native Americans warned the US about not building a city there long ago ...

 

[glaeken]

Before I read this thread on terb, I heard it about it on several news stations. That's why I think it's just the media blowing this story out of proportion.

I stopped paying too much attention to the mainstream media for just that reason. They're more concerned with ratings than facts and thanks to the internet it's easy to go to the source.

 

[Asterix]

If I'm not mistaken, the French and the Native Americans warned the US about not building a city there long ago ...

The Native Americans warned the French first, they went ahead anyway. The crescent that is old New Orleans is not near as vulnerable as the lower areas that the city expanded into, some of them a dozen feet below sea level. Couple that with the funneling of the Mississippi through an ever narrowing channel, cuttng off the natural flood plains and accelerating the erosion of the swamps that once buffered New Orleans...well, IMHO, only a sentamentalist or fool would want to rebuild there.

 

[dj1470]

well, IMHO, only a sentamentalist or fool would want to rebuild there.

Or a politician looking and peddling for votes

 

[fantasiafan]

...well, IMHO, only a sentamentalist or fool would want to rebuild there.

....i still believe in my conspiracy theory post above.....and from the way the dutch bult levees for their problems, fixing NewOrleans is possible to make the safety standards very good.....for the rich

 

[papasmerf]

Well, it doesnt have to be this way, how many billion a day is the war costing?

So you think if we spent the money we could convince a hurricane not to hit???

Yea, ok.

 

[Cassini]

The first potential hurricane of the year. The area it might land is still fairly wide. There'll be more and bigger ones to come. New Orleans is presently more likely vulnerable to a major storm than it was before Katrina. The US Army Corp of Engineers has acknowledged that the work is not complete restoring the levee and canal wall system, and that there may be areas weakened by Katrina that have not yet been discovered. New Orleans is essentially a bowl, and a bowl that is sinking more every year. If storms increase in intensity over the coming years, as they are predicted, at some point we'd have to face the realization that areas at most risk, such as the low lying parts of New Orleans and the many coastal islands in the Gulf, aren't worth rebuilding.

The Americans have a history of building in flood plains, and then selling the houses as low priced housing.

I can never understand why they would issue building permits for some of these areas. Historically, New Orleans was farm land. If farm land floods, you only need to rescue a few farmers. If a city floods, you have a logistics nightmare.

 

[Master Muse]

American History

Please detail the history to which you refer about where Americans built in a flood plain and sold as low cost housing.

Many thanks and looking forward to your post.

 

[Asterix]

....i still believe in my conspiracy theory post above.....and from the way the dutch bult levees for their problems, fixing NewOrleans is possible to make the safety standards very good.....for the rich

First, Holland was last hit by a significant hurricane over 50 years ago. The Gulf gets several every year. New Orleans continues to sink, which will reguire higher and higher levees at the same time that ocean levels are predicted to rise. The Atlantic and Gulf waters are also likely to rise in temperature in the coming years which will not necessarily lead to more hurricanes, but will lead to larger ones. Add to that the natural barrier of swamps and islands that extended out around the delta, once protecting New Orleans, is fast disappearing. Anyone dippy enough to rebuild there can go right ahead. Just don't tie it to my insurance rates when the shit hits the fan.

 

[fantasiafan]

So you think if we spent the money we could convince a hurricane not to hit???

Yea, ok.

now thats just stupid....like I meant it like that.....only tornadoes could get paid off!