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Poll indicates the NDP will 'get clobbered' in the coming Alberta election

A poll by Lethbridge College shows that the United Conservative Party is expected to garner 57.8 per cent of the vote — a majority government — while the Alberta New Democratic Party lags far behind at 23.2 per cent.

LICIA CORBELLA Updated: March 9, 2019

Surrounded by campaign signs, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley speaks at an NDP rally in Calgary on Thursday, March 7, 2019. GAVIN YOUNG/POSTMEDIA


If some of the actions of the Alberta NDP — such as filling quasi-judicial boards with controversial anti-oil activists just weeks before the provincial election — has you wondering how this can possibly be a wise election strategy, wonder no more.

The NDP can read polls just as well as the rest of us, and party members know they are headed for an electoral bloodbath if poll numbers hold steady in the election, which must be held before the end of May.

A poll released recently by Lethbridge College shows that provincewide, the United Conservative Party is expected to garner 57.8 per cent of the vote — a majority government — while the Alberta New Democratic Party lags far behind at 23.2 per cent, the Alberta Party is at seven per cent, the Alberta Liberal Party is at 5.1 per cent and the Freedom Conservative Party has 2.8 per cent support. Other parties or candidates have 4.1 per cent of intended voter support.

The numbers are even more striking when you consider that the UCP leads the NDP in every region of the province — including Edmonton, where NDP support is the highest.

The poll, conducted by Lethbridge College students from Feb. 2 to 5 under the supervision of political scientist Faron Ellis, research chair of the Citizen Society Research Lab, has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

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The students interviewed 1,055 adult Alberta residents and asked the question: “If a provincial election was held today, for which of the following parties would you be most likely to vote for?”

In Calgary, the answer to that question is 61.8 per cent for Jason Kenney’s UCP, 20.2 per cent for Rachel Notley’s NDP, 7.1 per cent for Stephen Mandel’s Alberta Party, 3.7 per cent for David Khan’s Liberal Party and 2.6 per cent for Derek Fildebrandt’s Freedom Conservative Party.

“The NDP will likely get clobbered in Calgary, but that doesn’t mean the NDP aren’t going to pick off a riding or two in Calgary,” said Ellis, who was reached in Lethbridge on Friday.

“A lot of that has to do with individual candidates and incumbency. Incumbency does play a significant role — 10 to 15 per cent — depending on the incumbent. It can go either way, positive or negative, but typically it’s positive,” said Ellis.

In Edmonton, the UCP have 41 per cent support, the NDP has 39.2 and the Alberta Party has 10.6 per cent, likely because Mandel is the candidate for Edmonton-McClung.

“Edmonton is a horse race. It’s statistically a tie, so there will be some major battles there,” predicted Ellis.

In northern Alberta, however, the UCP are at 64.4 per cent support to the NDP’s 19.8 per cent, and in southern Alberta things look even worse for the NDP with just 13 per cent support, while the UCP has 64.2 per cent and the Liberal Party has 10.9 per cent.

In other words, in most of the province, it appears the UCP will win by landslides.

Ellis says the UCP support is broad and relatively deep, with the party leading the NDP among decided voters in every demographic group.

What’s most surprising is that young Albertans (60.4 per cent) “are just as likely to be planning to vote UCP as are other age groups, including seniors who, while still much more likely to vote UCP than for any other party (50.9 per cent), are less supportive of the UCP than are other age groups.

“What I find interesting is that the NDP is not the party of the youth that we used to think of in the ’60s, ’70s and ’80s,” said Ellis.

“The youth today are not old-style socialists. They are worried about jobs. They know which side their toast is buttered on and they want policies that reflect that,” said Ellis.

That bodes well for Alberta’s future.

Statistics Canada’s latest jobs numbers released Friday aren’t likely to help the NDP over the next few weeks, either. The percentage of Albertans unemployed climbed again in February to 7.3 per cent — which is higher than Nova Scotia. The news is even worse in Calgary, where 7.6 per cent of workers are unemployed, the highest rate of any city in Canada. NDP policies of raising taxes and spooking businesses has been a disaster for Alberta.

Last month, the NDP appointed anti-Alberta oil and gas activist Ed Whittingham, the former executive director of the Pembina Institute, to the Alberta Energy Regulator — kind of Tzeporah Berman 2.0, only worse.

During the many years Whittingham worked at the Pembina Institute, the environmental organization accepted $8 million in U.S. foundation money earmarked to landlock Alberta oil and gas through an insidious and highly effective Tar Sands Campaign, which was exposed by Vancouver researcher Vivian Krause.

The group Corporate Ethics boasted on its website that: “from the very beginning, the campaign strategy was to land-lock the tar sands so their crude could not reach the international market where it could fetch a high price per barrel.”

Just days after a Postmedia column about Krause’s work was published by Postmedia in January, CorpEthics executive director Michael Marx removed that revealing quote from the organization’s website, but Krause has screen grabs of everything on her website.

So, the NDP knows that making controversial appointments and showing their anti-oil colours will not likely help on election day.

“It’s a classic strategy. The NDs know they’re not going to be here in six months’ time so they’re doing everything they can to stack things in their favour for as long as they can, or at least force the new government to fire people that you’ve appointed,” said Ellis.

“Having said that, the New Democrats had no problem doing that. They cleaned house on many boards when they got in.”

Finally, an NDP policy Albertans might actually urge the UCP to adopt.

Licia Corbella is a Postmedia opinion columnist.
 

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Poll indicates the NDP will 'get clobbered' in the coming Alberta election

A poll by Lethbridge College shows that the United Conservative Party is expected to garner 57.8 per cent of the vote — a majority government — while the Alberta New Democratic Party lags far behind at 23.2 per cent.

LICIA CORBELLA Updated: March 9, 2019

Surrounded by campaign signs, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley speaks at an NDP rally in Calgary on Thursday, March 7, 2019. GAVIN YOUNG/POSTMEDIA


If some of the actions of the Alberta NDP — such as filling quasi-judicial boards with controversial anti-oil activists just weeks before the provincial election — has you wondering how this can possibly be a wise election strategy, wonder no more.

The NDP can read polls just as well as the rest of us, and party members know they are headed for an electoral bloodbath if poll numbers hold steady in the election, which must be held before the end of May.

A poll released recently by Lethbridge College shows that provincewide, the United Conservative Party is expected to garner 57.8 per cent of the vote — a majority government — while the Alberta New Democratic Party lags far behind at 23.2 per cent, the Alberta Party is at seven per cent, the Alberta Liberal Party is at 5.1 per cent and the Freedom Conservative Party has 2.8 per cent support. Other parties or candidates have 4.1 per cent of intended voter support.

The numbers are even more striking when you consider that the UCP leads the NDP in every region of the province — including Edmonton, where NDP support is the highest.

The poll, conducted by Lethbridge College students from Feb. 2 to 5 under the supervision of political scientist Faron Ellis, research chair of the Citizen Society Research Lab, has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW

The students interviewed 1,055 adult Alberta residents and asked the question: “If a provincial election was held today, for which of the following parties would you be most likely to vote for?”

In Calgary, the answer to that question is 61.8 per cent for Jason Kenney’s UCP, 20.2 per cent for Rachel Notley’s NDP, 7.1 per cent for Stephen Mandel’s Alberta Party, 3.7 per cent for David Khan’s Liberal Party and 2.6 per cent for Derek Fildebrandt’s Freedom Conservative Party.

“The NDP will likely get clobbered in Calgary, but that doesn’t mean the NDP aren’t going to pick off a riding or two in Calgary,” said Ellis, who was reached in Lethbridge on Friday.

“A lot of that has to do with individual candidates and incumbency. Incumbency does play a significant role — 10 to 15 per cent — depending on the incumbent. It can go either way, positive or negative, but typically it’s positive,” said Ellis.

In Edmonton, the UCP have 41 per cent support, the NDP has 39.2 and the Alberta Party has 10.6 per cent, likely because Mandel is the candidate for Edmonton-McClung.

“Edmonton is a horse race. It’s statistically a tie, so there will be some major battles there,” predicted Ellis.

In northern Alberta, however, the UCP are at 64.4 per cent support to the NDP’s 19.8 per cent, and in southern Alberta things look even worse for the NDP with just 13 per cent support, while the UCP has 64.2 per cent and the Liberal Party has 10.9 per cent.

In other words, in most of the province, it appears the UCP will win by landslides.

Ellis says the UCP support is broad and relatively deep, with the party leading the NDP among decided voters in every demographic group.

What’s most surprising is that young Albertans (60.4 per cent) “are just as likely to be planning to vote UCP as are other age groups, including seniors who, while still much more likely to vote UCP than for any other party (50.9 per cent), are less supportive of the UCP than are other age groups.

“What I find interesting is that the NDP is not the party of the youth that we used to think of in the ’60s, ’70s and ’80s,” said Ellis.

“The youth today are not old-style socialists. They are worried about jobs. They know which side their toast is buttered on and they want policies that reflect that,” said Ellis.

That bodes well for Alberta’s future.

Statistics Canada’s latest jobs numbers released Friday aren’t likely to help the NDP over the next few weeks, either. The percentage of Albertans unemployed climbed again in February to 7.3 per cent — which is higher than Nova Scotia. The news is even worse in Calgary, where 7.6 per cent of workers are unemployed, the highest rate of any city in Canada. NDP policies of raising taxes and spooking businesses has been a disaster for Alberta.

Last month, the NDP appointed anti-Alberta oil and gas activist Ed Whittingham, the former executive director of the Pembina Institute, to the Alberta Energy Regulator — kind of Tzeporah Berman 2.0, only worse.

During the many years Whittingham worked at the Pembina Institute, the environmental organization accepted $8 million in U.S. foundation money earmarked to landlock Alberta oil and gas through an insidious and highly effective Tar Sands Campaign, which was exposed by Vancouver researcher Vivian Krause.

The group Corporate Ethics boasted on its website that: “from the very beginning, the campaign strategy was to land-lock the tar sands so their crude could not reach the international market where it could fetch a high price per barrel.”

Just days after a Postmedia column about Krause’s work was published by Postmedia in January, CorpEthics executive director Michael Marx removed that revealing quote from the organization’s website, but Krause has screen grabs of everything on her website.

So, the NDP knows that making controversial appointments and showing their anti-oil colours will not likely help on election day.

“It’s a classic strategy. The NDs know they’re not going to be here in six months’ time so they’re doing everything they can to stack things in their favour for as long as they can, or at least force the new government to fire people that you’ve appointed,” said Ellis.

“Having said that, the New Democrats had no problem doing that. They cleaned house on many boards when they got in.”

Finally, an NDP policy Albertans might actually urge the UCP to adopt.

Licia Corbella is a Postmedia opinion columnist.

I don't understand why there is any surprise here at all, the only reason they won was the right was split between Wild Rose and Cons. Federal NDP also gonna get clobbered
 

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Albertans experiment with left wing politics was short lived. They learned the lesson the hard way just like Ontario did in 1990-1995.
 

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Alberta's economy is a one trick pony. It will be very hard for any premier to combat what happens when the price of a barrel of crude oil stays this low for this long. They should have long ago brought in a provincial sales tax as a hedge against what happens in bad times like the present. The imposition for a provincial sales tax might have been a form of political suicide for whichever premier imposed it but subsequent premiers would not revoke it. Potty mouth Kenney will not be able to get a pipeline built anymore than Harper. The only guarantee with Kenney will be continues vitriol directed at Justin Trudeau et al. including Quebec.
 

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Alberta's economy is a one trick pony. It will be very hard for any premier to combat what happens when the price of a barrel of crude oil stays this low for this long. They should have long ago brought in a provincial sales tax as a hedge against what happens in bad times like the present. The imposition for a provincial sales tax might have been a form of political suicide for whichever premier imposed it but subsequent premiers would not revoke it. Potty mouth Kenney will not be able to get a pipeline built anymore than Harper. The only guarantee with Kenney will be continues vitriol directed at Justin Trudeau et al. including Quebec.
Not true. Oil has been cheaper in the past and their economy has been just fine. Oil represents about 25% of the Alberta GDP and employs about 8% of all workers. I'd hardly call that a one trick pony. Before Notley Crew came in other sectors of the economy were thriving. Capital flows to lower cost jurisdictions. The NDP upset that balance.
 

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Not true. Oil has been cheaper in the past and their economy has been just fine. Oil represents about 25% of the Alberta GDP and employs about 8% of all workers. I'd hardly call that a one trick pony. Before Notley Crew came in other sectors of the economy were thriving. Capital flows to lower cost jurisdictions. The NDP upset that balance.
I have to disagree with you. The Canadian dollar( in US currency) sometimes referred to as the "Petrobuck" is closely tied to the price of oil on the world market. The Alberta economy is even more closely dependent on the world oil prices. The sustained low oil prices wrought carnage on the energy sector resulyomh in serious losses to the Alberta economy and serious losses to the royalty taxes collected by Ottawa. A lot of foreign capital exited the oil patch as well due to the non-profitability of the tar sands and lack of proper oil pipeline infrastructure. Battered Albertans elected a NDP government which they thought might be more generous with social welfare.
tTh
 

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I have to disagree with you. The Canadian dollar( in US currency) sometimes referred to as the "Petrobuck" is closely tied to the price of oil on the world market. The Alberta economy is even more closely dependent on the world oil prices. The sustained low oil prices wrought carnage on the energy sector resulyomh in serious losses to the Alberta economy and serious losses to the royalty taxes collected by Ottawa. A lot of foreign capital exited the oil patch as well due to the non-profitability of the tar sands and lack of proper oil pipeline infrastructure. Battered Albertans elected a NDP government which they thought might be more generous with social welfare.
tTh
And contrast Alberta with Norway, where they didn't lower taxes with oil profits and now have a $1 trillion fund for the country. They are now divesting of oil stocks in their country's portfolio as well, as they can see where the oil business is heading. Alberta just wants to push more tar sands oil for lower taxes and a few jobs.
 

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And contrast Alberta with Norway, where they didn't lower taxes with oil profits and now have a $1 trillion fund for the country. They are now divesting of oil stocks in their country's portfolio as well, as they can see where the oil business is heading. Alberta just wants to push more tar sands oil for lower taxes and a few jobs.
When oil patch profits were king, the Alberta provincial government of the day along with the federal government under Harper perpetrated gross mismanagement of the oil revenues, seemingly believing that the good times were eternal. This grossly inept management lead to disaster when world oil prices tanked and remained low. It is no wonder that a NDP cabal was voted in. The tar sands operations are in their twilight, energy alternates such as the nonsensical fracking and alternative to fossil fuels technologies are making inroads. When all is said and done, the immense ecological disaster and attempts at clean up will the legacy of the tar sands not the profits. Neil Young was right when he said the oil sands operations looked like Hiroshima.
 

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Alberta's economy is a one trick pony. It will be very hard for any premier to combat what happens when the price of a barrel of crude oil stays this low for this long. They should have long ago brought in a provincial sales tax as a hedge against what happens in bad times like the present. The imposition for a provincial sales tax might have been a form of political suicide for whichever premier imposed it but subsequent premiers would not revoke it. Potty mouth Kenney will not be able to get a pipeline built anymore than Harper. The only guarantee with Kenney will be continues vitriol directed at Justin Trudeau et al. including Quebec.
You do not solve economic diversification issue with taxes
Why does every fool leftie think taxation is the answer to everything

Gerald Butts had an agenda to shut down Alberats Oil industry & he was able to implement his plan as an unelected puppet master for Justin Trudeau
Alberta has weathered low commodity prices before , however it can not survive if Ottawa is working hard to shut them down
 

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When oil patch profits were king, the Alberta provincial government of the day along with the federal government under Harper perpetrated gross mismanagement of the oil revenues, seemingly believing that the good times were eternal. This grossly inept management lead to disaster when world oil prices tanked and remained low. It is no wonder that a NDP cabal was voted in. The tar sands operations are in their twilight, energy alternates such as the nonsensical fracking and alternative to fossil fuels technologies are making inroads. When all is said and done, the immense ecological disaster and attempts at clean up will the legacy of the tar sands not the profits. Neil Young was right when he said the oil sands operations looked like Hiroshima.
Fossil Fuels represent 80% of the worlds energy needs
World wide demand for oil increases every year & china & India are just getting started

alternative to fossil fuels technologies are making inroads.
You are dreaming if you think, wind & solar are going to replace oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear
We will run out of oil long before "alternatives" make significant inroads
 

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Fossil Fuels represent 80% of the worlds energy needs
World wide demand for oil increases every year & china & India are just getting started



You are dreaming if you think, wind & solar are going to replace oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear
We will run out of oil long before "alternatives" make significant inroads
How old are you larue?
 

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Not true. Oil has been cheaper in the past and their economy has been just fine. Oil represents about 25% of the Alberta GDP and employs about 8% of all workers. I'd hardly call that a one trick pony. Before Notley Crew came in other sectors of the economy were thriving. Capital flows to lower cost jurisdictions. The NDP upset that balance.
Alberta unemployment rates since 1976
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/160205/cg-a003-eng.htm

It actually shows Alberta is doing better in this oil bust then in any in the past. But of course a female left leaning Premier cannot be given any credit!!!
 

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I have to disagree with you. The Canadian dollar( in US currency) sometimes referred to as the "Petrobuck" is closely tied to the price of oil on the world market. The Alberta economy is even more closely dependent on the world oil prices. The sustained low oil prices wrought carnage on the energy sector resulyomh in serious losses to the Alberta economy and serious losses to the royalty taxes collected by Ottawa. A lot of foreign capital exited the oil patch as well due to the non-profitability of the tar sands and lack of proper oil pipeline infrastructure. Battered Albertans elected a NDP government which they thought might be more generous with social welfare.
tTh
Alberta has diversified their economy over the past 20-30 years so they are not as reliant upon oil revenues. I still agree that their energy sector is very important, not only to Alta but to Canada as well. Our dollar is tied in large part to price of oil. But as you can see from the stats I gave you, the economy of Alberta is much more than just oil and gas. The two largest private employers in the province are non energy sector companies - Agrium (chemical) and Shaw (communications). WestJet and CPR (transportation) and ATCO (utilities) are also top 10 private employers.
 

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Alberta unemployment rates since 1976
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/160205/cg-a003-eng.htm

It actually shows Alberta is doing better in this oil bust then in any in the past. But of course a female left leaning Premier cannot be given any credit!!!
Alberta isn't in an oil bust. When Notley took power in May 2015 the spot price for WTI crude oil was USD 57.30/barrel. Today it's USD 56.50/barrel. When Notley took office unemployment rate was 5.9%. Today it's 7.3%
 

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Alberta isn't in an oil bust. When Notley took power in May 2015 the spot price for WTI crude oil was USD 57.30/barrel. Today it's USD 56.50/barrel. When Notley took office unemployment rate was 5.9%. Today it's 7.3%
Except Alberta isn't West Texas is it :

https://www.oilsandsmagazine.com/news/2015/8/9/western-canadian-select-hits-6-year-low

WCS was under pressure well before Notly was elected. So yeah its in an oil bust, no way to get the oil out, under pressure from much cheaper shale oil the amout of foreign investment in Alberta will not magically rise if getting the oil out is not easy and shale is much cheaper. But within 1 year the pipline prob should abate, but I think by then world oil prices will be starting to feel the pinch from EVs
 

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Except Alberta isn't West Texas is it :

https://www.oilsandsmagazine.com/news/2015/8/9/western-canadian-select-hits-6-year-low

WCS was under pressure well before Notly was elected. So yeah its in an oil bust, no way to get the oil out, under pressure from much cheaper shale oil the amout of foreign investment in Alberta will not magically rise if getting the oil out is not easy and shale is much cheaper. But within 1 year the pipline prob should abate, but I think by then world oil prices will be starting to feel the pinch from EVs
From your own article half of Alberta's exports of oil are light crude that trades around the level of WTI.
As far as WCS prices are concerned when Notley came into power it was trading at about USD 50.00/barrel. Today it's trading at USD 46.62/barrel. https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts.
I don't call that an oil bust. And EV's will have little to no effect on oil prices.
 
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