Police Reference Report

[oldjones]

I was witness to a crime and had to testify at a major case. The police had every single incident/phone call I ever made since I moved to Toronto, on their list. That's how they check your credibility and what ever other info they want. Shocking but true.

And if you imagine being a cop, and having to field all those callouts—real, imaginary, serious and trivial—everyday, you'd keep track too, as a conscientious professional. Hardly a surprise, the only issue to be concerned about is how that information gets used and by whom.

 

[El_Mariachi]

Is there one giant police database in Ontario, or does each regional police have a seperate file on you? For example, if I dealt with York Regional police, they recorded an incident, would Peel know about it? Thats if no charges were laid/no convictions/no tickets.

I know where I can get a Criminal record check, and I know it will come out clean, I just can't seem to find where I can a get a police reference check and find out what the police have on me.

 

[1HandInMyPocket]

I don't think they have the time or give two shits if you don't or do like kids...

well they may care about the latter.

 

[Damondean]

Why?

Darn it! So it is true! Should never have complained about those stupid soccer playing kids. Could have had a fantastic teacher's job at the David Miller Elementary School. Work only 5 hours a day, job security, good pay, great pension, Summer's off, no heavy lifting, etc.

Why would you want to teach those noisy soccer playing kids that you do not like? It takes a long time to get a pension

 

[Keebler Elf]

Is there one giant police database in Ontario, or does each regional police have a seperate file on you? For example, if I dealt with York Regional police, they recorded an incident, would Peel know about it? Thats if no charges were laid/no convictions/no tickets.

I know where I can get a Criminal record check, and I know it will come out clean, I just can't seem to find where I can a get a police reference check and find out what the police have on me.

Each police force has its own database (some regions might share). I'm not 100% sure on how it gets uploaded to CSIS but for sure with a criminal conviction it does.

If you're not convicted, I believe the information only stays on the local force's system. Not sure if it ever gets deleted (probably not). But it'll never show up except when a cop checks while pulling you over. It isn't accessible for criminal records checks.

To get a police reference check, just go into your local station and ask for one. Maybe check their website first to see if they have any information posted. But when people in jobs with kids need a police reference check, they go right to the station.

 

[thompo69]

Each police force has its own database (some regions might share). I'm not 100% sure on how it gets uploaded to CSIS but for sure with a criminal conviction it does.

If you're not convicted, I believe the information only stays on the local force's system. Not sure if it ever gets deleted (probably not). But it'll never show up except when a cop checks while pulling you over. It isn't accessible for criminal records checks.

To get a police reference check, just go into your local station and ask for one. Maybe check their website first to see if they have any information posted. But when people in jobs with kids need a police reference check, they go right to the station.

It does not get uploaded to CSIS. What you are thinking of is CPIC -- the Canadian Police Information Centre.

 

[Never Compromised]

Each police force has its own database (some regions might share). I'm not 100% sure on how it gets uploaded to CSIS but for sure with a criminal conviction it does.

As a matter of course, it does not go to CSIS. They can request info if they have a reason.

And yes, the police keep track of every interaction you have with them.

 

[HafDun]

Why would you want to teach those noisy soccer playing kids that you do not like? It takes a long time to get a pension

Maybe he just gets off watching little boys playing with their balls

 

[Keebler Elf]

It does not get uploaded to CSIS. What you are thinking of is CPIC -- the Canadian Police Information Centre.

Whoops! Yes, it's CPIC not CSIS. The OPP maintains the database (at least in Ontario).

 

[basketcase]

Each police force has its own database (some regions might share). I'm not 100% sure on how it gets uploaded to CSIS but for sure with a criminal conviction it does.

If you're not convicted, I believe the information only stays on the local force's system. Not sure if it ever gets deleted (probably not). But it'll never show up except when a cop checks while pulling you over. It isn't accessible for criminal records checks.
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I'll disagree with this. A friend with charges that were dropped was stopped going into the US because of this. If they had this info at the border, they must share information of more than just convictions.

 

[The Options Menu]

Actually yes that's true. Everytime you call the police it gets recorded and stays with you for life. But it's only an internal file and does not go out to people checking refrences. Only your criminal record would be released to those, but not any of the calls or interactions you've had with the police.

Also, your youth record hangs around. They can't use it in court or on a record check but they can use it to get a 'feel for you'. Or so I've (reasonably reliably) heard. YMMV.

 

[Keebler Elf]

I'll disagree with this. A friend with charges that were dropped was stopped going into the US because of this. If they had this info at the border, they must share information of more than just convictions.

It depends. If your friend went to the border before the charges were dropped or removed from CPIC, then they could have been downloaded into the American system where they'll remain forever. That's why it's better not to travel to the US if you have charges pending.

Once the charges are dropped, you can tell the police to remove your fingerprints and photos from their database. The arrest charge is not supposed to be accessible or is deleted from the CPIC system. It's highly likely that there's a (significant) delay between when the charges are dropped and when they get removed from the CPIC system.

That being said, I'm not an expert on the matter and it's better to consult with an immigration lawyer to determine exactly how your legal proceedings have/will impact your ability to cross the American border.

 

[thompo69]

It depends. If your friend went to the border before the charges were dropped or removed from CPIC, then they could have been downloaded into the American system where they'll remain forever. That's why it's better not to travel to the US if you have charges pending.

Once the charges are dropped, you can tell the police to remove your fingerprints and photos from their database. The arrest charge is not supposed to be accessible or is deleted from the CPIC system. It's highly likely that there's a (significant) delay between when the charges are dropped and when they get removed from the CPIC system.

That being said, I'm not an expert on the matter and it's better to consult with an immigration lawyer to determine exactly how your legal proceedings have/will impact your ability to cross the American border.

The police often won't remove something from your record unless they are specifically asked to. Even if you receive an absolute or conditional discharge, which means your conviction is supposed to be expunged after 1 or 3 years respectively, you have to submit a formal request for them to do it after the time has lapsed.