they had a call of 2 people having sex and they see 2 fully clothed people kissing in a car just as the photos from your article you posted. no citation no need to provide ID period. She knew her rights and im glad she exercised them.
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Police misconduct
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they had a call of 2 people having sex and they see 2 fully clothed people kissing in a car just as the photos from your article you posted. no citation no need to provide ID period. She knew her rights and im glad she exercised them.
Sorry Babypowder but both you and Daniele Watts are idiots!
There is a great English medieval saying, which sounds like it should have come from the 19th century Canadian or American west or perhaps interior Australia: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."
There is a great English medieval saying, which sounds like it should have come from the 19th century Canadian or American west or perhaps interior Australia: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."
You are a moron that are against citizens exercising their rights. please go drink some bleachSorry Babypowder but both you and Daniele Watts are idiots!
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At least thank God, to the best of my knowledge, it is extremely unlikely that you will be 'phoning me for legal advice at 1:30 a.m. and then arguing that I don't know what I'm talking about.You are a moron that are against citizens exercising their rights. please go drink some bleach
At least thank God, to the best of my knowledge, it is extremely unlikely that you will be 'phoning me for legal advice at 1:30 a.m. and then arguing that I don't know what I'm talking about.
id be better off paying a 3 legged table for legal advice
Obviously the feeling is mutual. The one slight problem is that I have the degree and although it is not in California, the licence.id be better off paying a 3 legged table for legal advice
J, M, & J even Los Angeles area Civil Rights groups agree with what I've posted! Give it a rest the woman screamed Wolf and it was at most a Chihuahua or Yorkshire Terrier if it was anything at all.
they had a call of 2 people having sex and they see 2 fully clothed people kissing in a car just as the photos from your article you posted. no citation no need to provide ID period. She knew her rights and im glad she exercised them.
I understand that you don't have to identify yourself. However, the police officer has a right to detain you while he investigates whether to arrest you or not. If they arrest you, you still don't have to identify yourself, but rather than let you go with a summons to appear in court, you will be taken to jail until your identity is established.
You can proclaim your rights all you want and refuse to identify yourself, but if you don't you're not doing yourself a favour as you're not convincing the officer that you're innocent and therefore that he should just let you go. It really becomes a game that some people play with police when they have too much money and too much time on their hands.
But Wilbur, the problem is that when you are a suspect in a crime, you do have to identify yourself. This is not a situation of a woman walking down the street in Los Angles minding her own business, when a LAPD black and white comes screeching up to the sidewalk two police officers leap out and say show us some identification or else!
Did anyone bother to listen to the news video in #38?
Holy Cow, this entire episode is about how to turn a relatively minor misdemeanor (non-indictable offense) into a major curfuffle, because she wanted to be a sea lawyer and refuse to merely say I'm Daniele Watts, my date of birth is X-X-X.
Her Boyfriend did tell police I'm Brian J. Lucas my DOB is Y-Y-Y, she's Daniele Watts, DOB X-X-X. and the LAPD said OK we'll be referring this to the D.A.'s Office or whatever they said and the two of them were cut loose.
Did anyone bother to listen to the news video in #38?
Holy Cow, this entire episode is about how to turn a relatively minor misdemeanor (non-indictable offense) into a major curfuffle, because she wanted to be a sea lawyer and refuse to merely say I'm Daniele Watts, my date of birth is X-X-X.
Her Boyfriend did tell police I'm Brian J. Lucas my DOB is Y-Y-Y, she's Daniele Watts, DOB X-X-X. and the LAPD said OK we'll be referring this to the D.A.'s Office or whatever they said and the two of them were cut loose.
you dont understand. if she was being arrested she would have to identify herself. Knowing someones name did not change the facts if she was going to be arrested for having sex while being clothed. Her name doesnt change the situation. If you are going to cite/arrest her then you need to show id. if she isnt going to be charged with anything she has the right to refuse being identified. prety simp;e. the police were looking for a couple having sex and they found a fully clothed couple kissing last time i checked kissing in public isnt illegalI understand that you don't have to identify yourself. However, the police officer has a right to detain you while he investigates whether to arrest you or not. If they arrest you, you still don't have to identify yourself, but rather than let you go with a summons to appear in court, you will be taken to jail until your identity is established.
exercising your rights isnt evidence of breaking the law. and furthermore an officer isnt the person you need to prove your innocence to. in fact they have to prove to a judge that she is guilty.you're not convincing the officer that you're innocent and therefore that he should just let you go.
Obviously the feeling is mutual.
at least you realize that you are no better than some shitty furniture.
If anyone gives a damn and wants to listen to the audio of the whole encounter (four tapes) courtesy of TLZ: http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/django-actress-daniele-watts-lapd-race-card-fame-audio/
Like those who believe that the police in Ferguson, Missouri should have had such. . . .
:deadhorse:
Like those who believe that the police in Ferguson, Missouri should have had such. . . .
:deadhorse:
you dont understand. if she was being arrested she would have to identify herself. Knowing someones name did not change the facts if she was going to be arrested for having sex while being clothed. Her name doesnt change the situation. If you are going to cite/arrest her then you need to show id. if she isnt going to be charged with anything she has the right to refuse being identified. prety simp;e. the police were looking for a couple having sex and they found a fully clothed couple kissing last time i checked kissing in public isnt illegal
exercising your rights isnt evidence of breaking the law. and furthermore an officer isnt the person you need to prove your innocence to. in fact they have to prove to a judge that she is guilty.
You can claim you're innocent all you want, but until a judge or jury acquits you, you will be forking out thousands of dollars in legal fees after you are arrested. Police don't have to account why they have arrested you illegally, at least in Canada. Charges may get thrown out because of that, but you don't get your money back. That's why it's not a good idea to piss off a police officer. I would identify myself only if I am being detained: 'Am I free to go, constable?... no, I am detaining you'.
Bottom line. pictures showed 2 fully clothed individuals. you probably dont know how sex works. he had no reason to suspect them of fucking just because they are kissing in public. cop didnt cite her for anything she was in the right to refuse id. she was unlawfully detained plain and simple. so instead of shaming people for exercising their rights. you should be questioning why an officer that swore an oath to up hold the constitution is infringing on some ones constitutional rights by unlawfully detaining them.You can claim you're innocent all you want, but until a judge or jury acquits you, you will be forking out thousands of dollars in legal fees after you are arrested. Charges may get thrown out because of that, but you don't get your money back. That's why it's not a good idea to piss off a police officer.
you dont even know your own rights but you are criticizing people that know theirs? pathetic....Police don't have to account why they have arrested you illegally, at least in Canada.....I would identify myself only if I am being detained: 'Am I free to go, constable?... no, I am detaining you'.
Sorry Babypowder but are an idiot! :clap2:
Statement of the year.
Bottom line. pictures showed 2 fully clothed individuals. you probably dont know how sex works.....
Are you seriously on a site devoted to sex saying that sex can only happen if you're naked?
No LAPD handcuffed someone because after receiving numerous 'phone calls about a couple having sex in public: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-straddling-grinding-car-breasts-exposed.html When police arrived on scene (investigating a criminal complaint in which she was a suspect) she refused to identify herself.
As has been pointed out this is a violation of the law in both the U.S.A and Canada.
I thought the police had to have reasonable suspicion of a crime before they could ask you to identify yourself. In this case they determined on the scene that no crime had been committed.
Since her ID papers had nothing whatsoever to do with that determination it seems that they had no reasonable grounds on which to suspect her of a crime after assessing the situation.
...In this case they determined on the scene that no crime had been committed.
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Is that what the officers told you?
In California, Probable Cause, Fuji, which LAPD had from the 'phone calls received. If you go to the first TMZ tape in fact this is all spelled out at about the 1:10 mark.I thought the police had to have reasonable suspicion of a crime before they could ask you to identify yourself. In this case they determined on the scene that no crime had been committed.
Since her ID papers had nothing whatsoever to do with that determination it seems that they had no reasonable grounds on which to suspect her of a crime after assessing the situation.
Ms. Watts behaved like a sea lawyer/spoiled brat and turned a five minute encounter where police would have said since you weren't engaged in the activity when we arrived* we will let you go with a warning, into a half-hour event with a police supervisor and women officers called to the scene.
One may I again point out where the Civil Rights Community in Los Angeles has called on her to apologize.
* Which to point out the obvious is different from saying no crime was committed.
Are you seriously on a site devoted to sex saying that sex can only happen if you're naked?
can you read? or does your grandchild log you on?
can you read?
because obviously this special needs citizen can't
Sorry Babypowder but are an idiot! :clap2:
Statement of the year.
