police chase

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that shooting a metal hood of the car could be dangerous to his fellow officers and the public....

Bullets do ricochet....he could have inadvertently hit someone with a stray bullet...
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that shooting a metal hood of the car could be dangerous to his fellow officers and the public....

Bullets do ricochet....he could have inadvertently hit someone with a stray bullet...

While I'm not a bullet expert, I'm pretty sure they are designed to mushroom and collapse on impact with anything, pretty much eliminating that.
 
The cop was in front of the car before it is wedged and before he shoots.


That cop that stood in front did a number on the driver's side wheel of the perpetrator when he collided into the Corolla just earlier, so I think he was confident that the perp wasn't about to run him over, but perhaps there was a small chance of danger, although said cop could jump out of the way.

I think he was also scaring the driver by firing into his car. It was like a warning for him not to try to go further.

Anyways, I don't fault the cop.
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that shooting a metal hood of the car could be dangerous to his fellow officers and the public....

Bullets do ricochet....he could have inadvertently hit someone with a stray bullet...

TPS use hollow-point (controlled expansion) bullets. Once it hits something it's far more likely to disintegrate or at least be very deformed as compared to a full metal jacket. If it disintegrates, the little pieces will not go very far or cause much harm. If it is deformed, it will be less likely to carry on any great distance due to greatly increased wind resistance.

The fact that the officer was less than 5 feet from his target posed little threat to the his fellow officers or the general public. Had the officer been firing at a fleeing suspect then we'd all have a right to be concerned.

That cop that stood in front did a number on the driver's side wheel of the perpetrator when he collided into the Corolla just earlier, so I think he was confident that the perp wasn't about to run him over, but perhaps there was a small chance of danger, although said cop could jump out of the way.

Looking at the bent left suspension, I'd say if you stepped on the gas you could still drive the car. Steering would be a bit of an issue but it would still move forward. Ever watched a demolition derby?

I think he was also scaring the driver by firing into his car. It was like a warning for him not to try to go further.

Anyways, I don't fault the cop.

That's what I think!
 
Accused's daughter questions need for police to shoot car.

She's now an expert on Police tactics. Anyone else care to :frusty:

TORONTO - Edward Skotnicki was not the ideal father, his daughter Sherry is the first to admit.

“He is still my blood,” she said in an interview. “He has been in and out of jail my whole life so I haven’t had a perfect relationship and he was not a normal father. He is there when he can be and is part of my family when he’s not incarcerated.”

But he is still her father. With that in mind, she said, she was disturbed to see what transpired in the Distillery District Wednesday and upset at Toronto Police.

“He shouldn’t have done that,” Sherry said of the police officer who shot at least 14 bullets into the engine block of the stolen car her father was allegedly driving. “It was unacceptable how cops dealt with it after he was stopped. He was not going anywhere. What if a kid had been hit with a stray bullet in the daycare there or the park?

“If police were so scared, why stand in front of the car and shoot?”

She said she does understand the police officer was in a difficult spot, but is admittedly emotional about her dad being in trouble once again.

“He has a family who care about him and care for him,” Sherry said from her home in Barrie. “I have five kids and the older ones know what happened, but still love him.”

In fact, she said, things were going much better recently.

“He had stayed with me in the summer,” she said. “He was good with the kids.”

He has an apartment on Jarvis St. and has been vigorously drug tested and was “clean and sober,” Sherry said.

Now this.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/09/17/accuseds-daughter-questions-need-for-police-to-shoot-car

Clean and sober eh? There goes that excuse!
 
Looking at the bent left suspension, I'd say if you stepped on the gas you could still drive the car. Steering would be a bit of an issue but it would still move forward. Ever watched a demolition derby?

Maybe, but wasn't he standing in front of the car while shooting at it? I don't think he was too worried of being run down, and if that car tried, it wouldn't have barreled out of there like a dragster. Eventually, the other cruiser wedges the perp in.

Another idea that the cop might have tried to convey was "you move towards me bud, then those bullets will reach the windshield and you".
 
Who's gonna comp the car's owner for the bullet holes and damage to the engine and other operating components? The cop who couldn't wait until the idiot thief realized he couldn't get away and surrendered?

Insurance no? Maybe a lawsuit for any uninsured difference?
 
What I want to know is if this clown has 150 criminal convictions, clearly a danger to society, why the hell isn't he locked up?
 
“He shouldn’t have done that,” Sherry said of the police officer who shot at least 14 bullets into the engine block of the stolen car her father was allegedly driving. “It was unacceptable how cops dealt with it after he was stopped. He was not going anywhere. What if a kid had been hit with a stray bullet in the daycare there or the park?"

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However does she not think that her father in a fleeing stolen car could have killed a kid there or elsewhere, as well as any adults on the street or in their vehicles during the chase?
 
“He shouldn’t have done that,” Sherry said of the police officer who shot at least 14 bullets into the engine block of the stolen car her father was allegedly driving. “It was unacceptable how cops dealt with it after he was stopped. He was not going anywhere. What if a kid had been hit with a stray bullet in the daycare there or the park?"

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However does she not think that her father in a fleeing stolen car could have killed a kid there or elsewhere, as well as any adults on the street or in their vehicles during the chase?
If you don't want a criminal in a stolen car to flee at an excessive speed, don't chase him. As a matter of fact, in Toronto, if a chase is considered too dangerous, it is not initiated. This isn't America. Our cops suppose to be familiar with this practice and, I believe, it's on the books.
 
I didn't know that. I thought hallow-points were outlawed because of the massive damage they do to the human body.

They are outlawed under the Geneva Convention for combat purposes, however, for police work, soft-nosed bullets are prescribed to avoid collateral damage to bystanders (IOW, they don't go through the body to hit someone else or ricochet to hit someone else).
 
Some car thieves drive at excessive speed even when not chased by anyone.

Now you're just reaching out into a void. Yes, the car thief will drive fast. So do many non thieves. The point is, a chase will ALWAYS cause a hazardous and unpredictable situation. There isn't a car worth a human life. The criminal with a rap sheet a mile long is not going to escape. He stole a car from in front of St. Michael's-cameras everywhere. Where's he going to run, Cuba?