PM Harper interferes in refugee selection process, nixes Syrian applicants

[SkyRider]

I'm not sure and I haven't spent spent any time looking into it but I think I could apply for British citizenship under the "grandfather rule". Weird, eh.

 

[SkyRider]

What about newfies born before 1949?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules_2009.asp

Maybe the above link might clarify the situation.

 

[fuji]

The only countries in the world that grants automatic citizenship by birth are Canada and the US, most countries in the world including european countries don't grant automatic citizenship by birth

Birth in the country to people born in the country to people born in the country.

I can't see how you defend that, they have created a permanent class of Syrians who aren't citizens? Fuck that. If you didn't love Arab dictatorships so much you would call that apartheid.

 

[fuji]

There are 4 or 5 generations of ethnic russians born in baltic states and don't have citizenship and those countries are member of EU supposed to respect human rights. Why don't you criticize those countries

Absolutely, I criticize those countries. That is directly contrary to the convention on statelessness--those people should be citizens in the country of their birth.

 

[SkyRider]

Speaking of citizenships. Suspected Muslim kidnappers release video of two Canadians kidnapped in the Philippines. Looks like this will be Prime Minister Trudeau's (if polls are to believed) soon.

 

[oldjones]

There are 4 or 5 generations of ethnic russians born in baltic states and don't have citizenship and those countries are member of EU supposed to respect human rights. Why don't you criticize those countries

Perhaps because those countries have given permanent resident status to the Russians who did not choose to become citizens by naturalization. Those who had arrived before Russia invaded in 1940 were granted citizenship. And of course many of those who had been re-settled in the vassal republics of the USSR just went 'home'. Which Baltic states is also an issue, they're each independent, and Lithuania simply made all it's Russian residents into Latvian citizens, like it or not.

None of this stuff is simple. My family on both side have been settled, and all born here since the 1800's, and I was born in Ottawa, but didn't become a Canadian Citizen until two years later.

 

[fuji]

Wrong. A Canadian birth certificate issued by a Canadian province is a valid proof of Canadian citizenship to get a passport. Canada is the only country with the US that grants automatic citizenship by birth. So if you were born in Ottawa you didn't need to get a certificate of citizenship to apply for a passport as you are already Canadian citizen by birth

And if you are third generation of your family born in Lebanon or Syria it is ludicrous that you have no rights and are kept in a camp because of your race.

 

[basketcase]

Don't be a dual citizen. Pick a country and stick with that country.....

Some countries (like Iran and Egypt) don't believe you can revoke citizenship. Even if they immigrate to Canada and become citizens, their birth state will still see them as their own. I know a Turkish guy who came to Canada before he was 2 years old and became a citizen but when he visited relatives in Turkey using his Canadian passport he was met at the airport, thrown into a truck, and inducted into the army for his compulsory service. There have also been several prominent cases where a Canadian was denied consular access in the country of their birth because that country didn't recognize them as Canadian.

 

[basketcase]

...So if you were born in Ottawa you didn't need to get a certificate of citizenship to apply for a passport as you are already Canadian citizen by birth

Unless he was born in an Embassy or his parents got whatever paperwork needed to keep the kid from being Canadian.

 

[SkyRider]

Some countries (like Iran and Egypt) don't believe you can revoke citizenship. Even if they immigrate to Canada and become citizens, their birth state will still see them as their own.

Mohamed Fahmy renounced his Egyptian citizenship.

 

[basketcase]

Mohamed Fahmy renounced his Egyptian citizenship.

Not according to Egypt. Every time he set foot in Egypt he was considered purely an Egyptian citizen by the authorities there no matter which passport he entered with.

 

[SkyRider]

Not according to Egypt. Every time he set foot in Egypt he was considered purely an Egyptian citizen by the authorities there no matter which passport he entered with.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1807604/why-does-mohamed-fahmy-have-to-give-up-citizenship-for-freedom/