Well, teflon tape is meant as a sealant for ANY threads where leakage could be a problem. For that matter in an emergency I've used masking tape. I mean to be totally correct if you have a leaky compression fitting one "should" use plumber's putty but hey, life ain't perfect.
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I'm happy to agree to disagree about the tape, but I don't believe plumber's putty is meant for any application involving supply-line water pressure. If a compression fitting leaks, it's either under-tightened, or the compression ring and/or the mating surfaces and/or the pipe or tubing itself is damaged (or perhaps, not clean).
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I'm a Plumber and I cannot count the number of times my phone has rang from someone doing Home Depot plumbing. It's all well enough until something goes wrong or the home depot guy forgot to tell you something.
Pay me to do it and I can donate the money to my Have a Date with Dani Fund.PM me for more contact info.
well, considering that I had to do quicky repairs on about 20 fittings, and teflon tape worked perfectly for it, and the installs were done by a licenced plumber, I'd say that in a perfect world what your say rub is true. However, the world ain't perfect.
Sure the correct thing to do would be to replace all the compression rings (or as you call them olive, and deburr all the shitty valves, but hey, who has an extra 20 or 30 hrs laying around.....
As for putty not being used on any line that is under pressure, another professional licenced plumber has told me different (and it didn't work btw) so I go by experience before advice.
As for me giving advice, if someone asks, I will give it from my personal knowledge and experience. You can give yours, it is your right and you can disagree with mine TYVM.
Sure the correct thing to do would be to replace all the compression rings (or as you call them olive, and deburr all the shitty valves, but hey, who has an extra 20 or 30 hrs laying around.....
As for putty not being used on any line that is under pressure, another professional licenced plumber has told me different (and it didn't work btw) so I go by experience before advice.
As for me giving advice, if someone asks, I will give it from my personal knowledge and experience. You can give yours, it is your right and you can disagree with mine TYVM.
or more correctly mike HOLMES lolMYSITEONLY said:
And yea Rub, a professional plumber told me to use plumber's putty on a supply line to a shower head....I doubted him and of course it didn't work.
Yes, there is a right way, but as with many things, there is more than one "right" way.....Teflon tape is used as a gasket between 2 pipe threads. If a leak is occuring between 2 threads teflon tape is a gasket and can be used. To be frank, in 2 months no extraneous leakage occurred where the repairs were made. Maybe over time one might develope, but I doubt it....
Like I said, the correct fix would have been to remove all the fittings and deburr them, but hey, budgetary and time restraints didn't allow for that. EOS
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comp. fittings...
Actually........compression fittings are OK to use on type L copper. (Thicker wall).......Most house built in the last 25 years have type M. Thinner walled residential piping. I'm a plumber and I won't use comp. valves. I've seen some pop off and I can't afford to have that happen to me. Call a plumber, pay him cash so he can see his favourite SP
Actually........compression fittings are OK to use on type L copper. (Thicker wall).......Most house built in the last 25 years have type M. Thinner walled residential piping. I'm a plumber and I won't use comp. valves. I've seen some pop off and I can't afford to have that happen to me. Call a plumber, pay him cash so he can see his favourite SP
With regards to the great teflon tape debate...
Teflon tape helps to lubricate the threads. As a result, you get the thing to torque to the proper amount of KN.m or lb.ft for you dinosaurs out there. So, using teflon tape will not hurt the issue.
However, I just don't believe in compression fittings. It's farking simple to solder a pipe. Works every time and will NEVER pop off in a million years.
The reason that I had compression fittings is that I have them in my bathroom because all my fixtures are brass and I have a pedestal sink, etc. I wanted to be "consistent" and they don't make brass quarter turn valves.
Speaking of which, the quarter turn valves are the way to go. Never mind those old style globe valves that always seize up on you.
Teflon tape helps to lubricate the threads. As a result, you get the thing to torque to the proper amount of KN.m or lb.ft for you dinosaurs out there. So, using teflon tape will not hurt the issue.
However, I just don't believe in compression fittings. It's farking simple to solder a pipe. Works every time and will NEVER pop off in a million years.
The reason that I had compression fittings is that I have them in my bathroom because all my fixtures are brass and I have a pedestal sink, etc. I wanted to be "consistent" and they don't make brass quarter turn valves.
Speaking of which, the quarter turn valves are the way to go. Never mind those old style globe valves that always seize up on you.
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I did some plumbing for Mike Holmes in his early shows.
Great guy...now famous and a millionaire.
Me....I'm still a plumber.
HIRE A PRO!!!!
While your under there you should prob add a set of shutoffs under the sink as well that way if you ever need to replace the faucet or washers in the future makes life a lot easier.. But hell what do I know.
Update
Hello:
Well, it's now been approx 24 hours since I installed the faucet with no leaks! So I think I can say with a bit of confidence that it might just make it. Thanks to all who offered help and suggestions, believe me, they helped. Just to let you know, it went ok, with only 2 real problems encountered. First of all, removing the old set was not too bad, that basin wrench was a great pick up. When I went to place the new faucet in I hit the first problem. The middle hole was too small, so after some cursing and filing, it eventually fit. I used the shortest flexible braided hose tubing to connect the tap to the inlets as the inlets already had the compression fittings on them. Next problem, when attaching the braided hose, the copper tubing coming up from the floor was only about 4-5 inches from the base of the hot water side. I considered cutting the copper pipe and attaching a new compression fitting, but didn't for the following reasons. Number 1-never start a job that involves shutting off the homes water supply after 9 pm. I didn't have a fitting, so would have to wait until the next day. Number 2- the pipe coming up through the floor was very close to the wall, and I don't have a compact pipe cutter. So.. I now know that flexible braided tubing is REALLY flexible.
Hopefully this does the trick, and if worse comes to worst I'll cut the pipe and shorten it. But of course I'll do it first thing in the morning when nobody needs water. Thanks again for all the help and suggestions, and by the way, no teflon tape was used..
Homer
Hello:
Well, it's now been approx 24 hours since I installed the faucet with no leaks! So I think I can say with a bit of confidence that it might just make it. Thanks to all who offered help and suggestions, believe me, they helped. Just to let you know, it went ok, with only 2 real problems encountered. First of all, removing the old set was not too bad, that basin wrench was a great pick up. When I went to place the new faucet in I hit the first problem. The middle hole was too small, so after some cursing and filing, it eventually fit. I used the shortest flexible braided hose tubing to connect the tap to the inlets as the inlets already had the compression fittings on them. Next problem, when attaching the braided hose, the copper tubing coming up from the floor was only about 4-5 inches from the base of the hot water side. I considered cutting the copper pipe and attaching a new compression fitting, but didn't for the following reasons. Number 1-never start a job that involves shutting off the homes water supply after 9 pm. I didn't have a fitting, so would have to wait until the next day. Number 2- the pipe coming up through the floor was very close to the wall, and I don't have a compact pipe cutter. So.. I now know that flexible braided tubing is REALLY flexible.
Hopefully this does the trick, and if worse comes to worst I'll cut the pipe and shorten it. But of course I'll do it first thing in the morning when nobody needs water. Thanks again for all the help and suggestions, and by the way, no teflon tape was used..
Homer
