Plasma vs, LCD

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Tyler1 said:
Wrong. Many new 50"+ plasmas are 1080P.
Burn in is not much of a concern now, as long as you break it in properly and don't keep the picture settings on default "torch mode". I can watch hours of 4:3 tv with grey side bars and can play hours of the same video game with zero image retention. Everyone who says they suffer from burn in is basically passing on false info they heard.
I prefer plasma. Both technologies have pros and cons.
Go to http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=40 for hours of reading.
Displaying 1080P implies but does not require that the panel has 1080 rows by 1920 columns. I don't believe that Plasma offers this yet (I just checked a top-end $10K Pioneer model and it doesn't), while LCD and DLP does (the latter through through some trickery). They scale the image down, which is cheating at best.

Also, if plasma consumes so much electricity, it must wind up as heat (contrary to another post) - everything does.

I find it funny how much is made of the thinness of the plasmas and LCDs. It's like a computer monitor - you can't put anything in front of it, and you won't put anything behind it, so who cares? (Obviously there may be a compelling reason based on room aesthetics.) So I'd generally go either with a rear or front projector (replacable lamp).
 

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torseeker said:
what about DLP-
I don't care what other people claim, for lower-end DLP I see rainbow effect, for higher-end DLP (including Yamaha $12k DLP projector) I feel nauseated after about 20 minutes of viewing.
 

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icto said:
Displaying 1080P implies but does not require that the panel has 1080 rows by 1920 columns. I don't believe that Plasma offers this yet (I just checked a top-end $10K Pioneer model and it doesn't), while LCD and DLP does (the latter through through some trickery). They scale the image down, which is cheating at best.

Also, if plasma consumes so much electricity, it must wind up as heat (contrary to another post) - everything does.

I find it funny how much is made of the thinness of the plasmas and LCDs. It's like a computer monitor - you can't put anything in front of it, and you won't put anything behind it, so who cares? (Obviously there may be a compelling reason based on room aesthetics.) So I'd generally go either with a rear or front projector (replacable lamp).
there are tons of plasma that are 1920 x 1080 natively

thinness is a plus... to a certain point. CRT RPTV of the same size to LCD RPTV is about 5" to 8" thicker. This way I can buy an LCD RPTV and push it closer to the front wall, move my sofa forward at an equidistant leaving the rear speakers where they are and achieve a better holosonic soundstage. Even better if I can use a flat panel display (another 10" savings in depth).

Now an inch or two difference between one flat panel to the next is pointless.
 

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On thickness, being able to move your big screen TV without a forklift is a big thing to me.
 

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Has anybody tried the new Sony Flat Screen Bravia LCD with 1080p resolution? For a 46" monitor it is somewhere around 3 grand. This is very pricey. Is there a comparable LCD monitor in the 2000 range?
 

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Meister said:
Has anybody tried the new Sony Flat Screen Bravia LCD with 1080p resolution? For a 46" monitor it is somewhere around 3 grand. This is very pricey. Is there a comparable LCD monitor in the 2000 range?
Panasonic has one at that size....it is not a common size, I was actually looking at 46" as it suits my location. 42" is too small, 50" too big. I find it weird that not many make something in between. Kind of reminds me back in the day when plasmas were first coming on the market: 40 and 42 were commonly around 12 grand but hitachi had a 37" that was 14...

Just remember that 1080p is the resolution, not related to size. Typically in monitors we say resolution is x pixels by x pixels but now with the new TV standards are EDTV and HDTV (which is the 1080p resolution).
 

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tboy said:
Panasonic has one at that size....
Is it LCD 1080p?

I was at TeleCity today and the guy told me that they are slowly getting out of Plasmas as there are problems with them. He said the future is LCD.
 

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Meister said:
Is it LCD 1080p?

I was at TeleCity today and the guy told me that they are slowly getting out of Plasmas as there are problems with them. He said the future is LCD.
The Sharp (sorry, I thought it was a panasonic) was at 2001 audio video at http://www.2001audiovideo.com/

Check the current flyers, they had one advertised during boxing week.

As for plasmas having problems, I sure hope they don't because plasmas were a hot ticket at futureshop. They sold like 2000 50" LG's in about 8 hrs during their boxing day sales....

When I was checking out plasmas before Christmas I did see a difference between the image sharpness of sony and other brands but not a $1000.00 difference....in all honesty if the image is too sharp, it makes me a little nauseous.....
 

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Meister said:
The Sharp Aquous is nice. Still 3000 for 46". What to do, what to do?
Personally if you can afford it, go for it. But IMHO you could get a lot better value for your money with the 50" for the same price or a slightly smaller one at about half the price. Frankly I'd rather have 2 42" for that money....while the image is a little nicer (maybe) it ain't worth it IMO.

What i regret most about not picking one up on boxing day is the fact that I was SO looking forward to playing need for speed:carbon or most wanted on a 50"....f me that would have been a riot.....
 

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T, just wait, if you can hold off a little bit more for the prices to level off.
Wish I remember where I read the article (newspaper or online), but the prediction and suggestion was, 1 more year for plasmas to keep coming down in price and then they will level off.
Imagine next year's boxing prices and what you'll get?
That's when I plan to pick up a 40" LCD. ;)
Almost bought the 32" Sharp for boxing day, but after walking around the store and seeing the 36" and then the 40", I told myself, next year.
 

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just wait, if you can hold off a little bit more for the prices to level off.
That, I whole heartedly agree. Not that right now isn't the right time to buy, you'll save a few hundreds more if you wait , and possibly a better unit.

Currently I like the Hitachi ULTRAVISION® Plasma, my bet for the future is still on LCDs.
 
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