PIMPs
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Well they do fit the dictionary definition of the term. However, personally I would not refer to the majority of agency owners as pimps. I would only use the term to describe those who use coercion.
I'm guessing that if there is an overwhelming sentiment by members that owners are in fact pimps - this thread will likely disappear.
I'm guessing that if there is an overwhelming sentiment by members that owners are in fact pimps - this thread will likely disappear.
According to dictionary.com a Pimp is:
By dictionary.com simply one Terb member refering another Terb member to a SP would make them a Pimp. But in street talk neither a Terb member nor an Agency would be a Pimp...
But in common street talk, a Pimp is not only one who finds customers but also "keeps the girls in line" and seductively recruits girls.
By dictionary.com simply one Terb member refering another Terb member to a SP would make them a Pimp. But in street talk neither a Terb member nor an Agency would be a Pimp...
I think pimp is a derogatory term much the same way that "prostitute" is.
I don't think agencies actively recruit ladies other than the odd help wanted ad in Eye / Now. Pimps on the other hand (in my mind at least) cruise the street & bars and prey on young ladies who are impressionable and might also be in a tight spot in life. In other words, pimps will take advantage of ladies and force them to work under less than ideal circumstances. I don't see agencies (the better ones at least) doing this, therefore I don't consider them pimps.
I don't think agencies actively recruit ladies other than the odd help wanted ad in Eye / Now. Pimps on the other hand (in my mind at least) cruise the street & bars and prey on young ladies who are impressionable and might also be in a tight spot in life. In other words, pimps will take advantage of ladies and force them to work under less than ideal circumstances. I don't see agencies (the better ones at least) doing this, therefore I don't consider them pimps.
If it walks like a duck.....
xarir, I guess there could be 'good pimps' and 'bad pimps', but we're not making that distinction now, are we?
xarir, I guess there could be 'good pimps' and 'bad pimps', but we're not making that distinction now, are we?
aptenodytes, I'm asking about the "distinction" or degree.
Is taking a SW out of the cold the action of a "good" P***? They're going to do it regardless, aren't they? It's safer, I think?
btw, let's leave EE associations OUT of this discussion. It's been discussed extensively.
Is taking a SW out of the cold the action of a "good" P***? They're going to do it regardless, aren't they? It's safer, I think?
btw, let's leave EE associations OUT of this discussion. It's been discussed extensively.
Pimps, hookers, tricks. All are derogatory terms which you could argue as applying to agencies, SP's and clients respectively.
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Like anything there are good ones and there are bad ones.aptenodytes said:
I think if one is going to use a term in a general sense (pimp = person or entity that seeks "dates" for SPs then takes a cut of the $$$) then one should be consistent in the use of that term.
Personally I choose to use words like pimp, hooker, prostitute when referencing the lower end of the spectrum that we TERBites tend to shy away from. In that sense I consider the terms derogatory in nature and thus would not acsribe the sully characteristics of a pimp to a (good) agency.
Oh, sure, we only pay (sorry give a donation) for time.
Somebody should make a dictionary in this particular dialect of NEWSPEAK:
Agency owner ..
donation ..
client ..
SP ..
etc. ..
Who do you really think you are fooling except yourselves.
Somebody should make a dictionary in this particular dialect of NEWSPEAK:
Agency owner ..
donation ..
client ..
SP ..
etc. ..
Who do you really think you are fooling except yourselves.
I'm pretty close to a sp who works at one of the mentioned agencies, and we've talked about the whole thing of her working in the biz and for her agency. She is genuinely happy to be working for who she is. Technically the agency owners are her pimps, however the negative connotation associated with that title doesn't exist in their professional relationship.
She has related how one of the owners personally drives her to appointments when it's a new client. There seems to be an honest mutual feeling of care between that agency's owners and the sps that work for them. This isn't to say that there aren't bad things about working for them. On one hand the agency somehow made this girl's less dependable nature better, and on the corollary, the agency owners also made her work significantly more than she desired at times. One night that comes to mind is where she wanted to hang out with me after she got off work, and by the time she got to my place she was so tired that we just talked for a bit, and she simply passed out from exhaustion in bed.
Like everything in life, the concept of an agency is full of good and bad. But it does seem like there's more good than bad in the reputable agencies. Pimps in the official terminology seems correct, but certainly these agency owners don't deserve the stereotypes of being money extorting thugs as the word implies.
She has related how one of the owners personally drives her to appointments when it's a new client. There seems to be an honest mutual feeling of care between that agency's owners and the sps that work for them. This isn't to say that there aren't bad things about working for them. On one hand the agency somehow made this girl's less dependable nature better, and on the corollary, the agency owners also made her work significantly more than she desired at times. One night that comes to mind is where she wanted to hang out with me after she got off work, and by the time she got to my place she was so tired that we just talked for a bit, and she simply passed out from exhaustion in bed.
Like everything in life, the concept of an agency is full of good and bad. But it does seem like there's more good than bad in the reputable agencies. Pimps in the official terminology seems correct, but certainly these agency owners don't deserve the stereotypes of being money extorting thugs as the word implies.
I fail to see that 'prostitute' is a pejorative. It's certainly (in my mind) not on the same level as 'whore' or 'hooker', both of which are generally applied with some amount of disdain. Perhaps 'escort' is a tad more decorous, and if that's the appellation that one would choose that's fine by me.
In much the same way, a pimp can also choose to identify themself as an agency (or agent) and it's fine by me.
In much the same way, a pimp can also choose to identify themself as an agency (or agent) and it's fine by me.
