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Quest4Less

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So the Ontario "Fiberals" are thinking of bringing back photo radar again. One more reason (as if another was needed) to kick their collective butts out of power. Man I really hate those people.

All photo radar does is give rich people permission to speed. It does NOTHING to get the "bad" drivers off the road.


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I'm with you on this one. Where was the campaign platform that included this initiative? Another example of saying anything to get elected, and then doing whatever crosses your mind.
 
I supported the Ontario Liberals, but this has me steamed. It's nothing more than a cash grab. Always has been, always will be. If speeding is really that much of a problem (and it's not nearly the problem that it's made out to be) then park an empty cruiser here and there. Just the sight of a cop car slows people down.

But if they do bring photo radar back, maybe I'll just issue the gov't a cheque as payment in advance. Then I'll be able to speed all I want.
 
biz999 said:
I'm with you on this one. Where was the campaign platform that included this initiative? Another example of saying anything to get elected, and then doing whatever crosses your mind.
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In my opinion this country is getting more like a dictatorship , I did not vote liberal but even if I did I would not give them permission to do this.
For once I would love to see a politician have a clear platform stating what they intend to do and sticking to it.

Actually we had only one that I remember, Mike Harris who actually did what he said he would.
 
I bet that it is unfortunately gonna get reinstated, I'm also willing to bet that the insurance industry is going to lobby and press big time into having it affect insurance rates.
 
It is a recognized fact that in Canada we live in a democratic dictatorship. We elect a party under the pretence that the man in your riding will represent his riding in parliament, when in reality he or she represents their party in the riding. Politicians are not accountable in Canada and they do what ever they want. They will tell you what ever they think you want to hear, and under their breath and behind your back they tell us to go F** ourselves. Then just before the next election they will throw us a bone and the dogs rally to their cause once again. Your opinion means nothing to our beloved democratic dictators
 
Wow, have you all been suckered in by the media. You blame the Liberals?!? It was Hazel McCallion and the Oakville mayor that REQUESTED photo radar.

I'm kinda ambivalent re: photo radar. People say it's a cash grab, but if you don't speed you don't get a ticket. A cash grab is something that you have to pay and have no choice in the matter (like, say, a certain health premium that has recently been put in place). Personally, I'd rather see the lawbreakers pay the fine cuz every dollar we get from them is one dollar less that needs to be collected through higher taxes.

Tax the guilty (and speeders ARE guilty). I like it.
 
KEEBLER:

Using that logic, we might as well be charging EXTRA health premiums to smokers and the obese, coz they are guilty of clogging up our health system with all their preventable illnesses...

Why should MY taxes be raised to pay for them, when I don't smoke and I live a healthy lifestyle ???

They're just as guilty even if there's no law (yet) against smoking, so charge THEM instead....

As others have said, what annoy's me most about this whole photo radar issue is that politicians have the NERVE to disguise it as some sort of public safety issue when it ISN'T...

Anyone who has driven in Europe will tell you that the cars there are travelling at 130KM/hr + on freeways that were designed for it, just as they were in North America...

If they bring photo radar back, personally I intend to buy a radar detector and the politicians and OPP can go f*ck themselves...
 
I had several dangerous driving experiences with photo radar last time it was put in place.

Any time there was a van parked on the side of the road, people would hit the brakes. The brake effect would domino back upstream, and I couple of times I was forced to brake really hard, putting me at risk of colliding with the car in front, and greater risk of getting rear-ended.

Thinking back, the other thing that happened was that people seemed less likely to get out of the passing lane. People were doing 100-110 in the passing lane, completely confident that they had every right to obey the speed limit in that lane. The obvious repercussion was a whole lot of traffic weaving and passing on the right.

My opinion is that photo radar is a traffic hazard, and that the risks far outweight the benefits.
 
anotherhappy said:
My opinion is that photo radar is a traffic hazard, and that the risks far outweight the benefits.
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You may be on to something here. Does anyone know if there's been a study of accident rates in jurisdictions with photo radar, compared with jurisdictions without it?
 
I can live with the photoradar system, but whats with the redlight camera's...
apparently you can but some spray-material for your liscence plate so the camera can not recognize your number... More, if were to lend my car to someone, i would always worry if they were to .........
 
In BC, radar detectors are legal and available at Future Shop and Best Buy
 
I tend to speed. Having said that, I hate escalating insurance rates. I would much prefer to pay a hefty ticket assigned to my speeding vehicle, as oppossed to paying higher insurance rates for 5 years.
Chances are that if you are against photo you are a speeder as well. If you drive within the speed limits, who cares if there is photo radar? Slow down if you don't want to pay.
Who cares if I do 140 kph on the 407 at 3:30 in the morning?
 
INDN_LOVER said:
Using that logic, we might as well be charging EXTRA health premiums to smokers and the obese, coz they are guilty of clogging up our health system with all their preventable illnesses...
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Generally, smokers kill far fewer people than speeders do.
The speed limits are designed for one reason - safety.
Don't break the law and you'll have no problems with these cameras.
 
PhotoRadar has little or no effect on accident rates.

Anyone who sees this as anything other than a cash grab is deluding themselves.

McGuinty is trying to avoid any political fallout by having the municipal politicians "ask" for permission and he won't say "no" but I am mightily pissed over this. i HATE photoradar. It's so fucking draconian.
 
Berlin said:
It'$ A FARKING Cash GRAB.
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Well I hope it's more of a cash grab than the red light cameras.

Red Light Cameras:

Expected Revenue: $1.5 million

Cost to Implement: $2 million

Knowing you've been screwed by the city politicians for $500K: Priceless
 
Hmmmm.....

Don't speed = No ticket

Don't run red lights = No ticket

The fact that the goverment can make money out of it = no problem.

If you want to drive fast, take it to a track. But; if you just want to zoom in your little tweaked out Honda Civic and you get caught, whats the problem?

Will it improve public safety? Probably - and why not? slower cars and cautiously approaching a stale green can't be a bad thing. Plus, the revenue can probably be used to improve our roads - instead of another tax hike somewhere down the road.
 
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