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Peter Sloly "Retires"
- Thread starter SkyRider
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Not surprised.
He should have spoken his mind after he left TPS. Unless he was angling for a golden boot.
He should have spoken his mind after he left TPS. Unless he was angling for a golden boot.
I think he gets full pension after 25 years (apparently he has 27) and is at least 45 years old (apparently he is 49). Can anybody confirm this? The question is whether there is a "gag order"?Unless he was angling for a golden boot.
The more I read about him in various news articles, the more I like him
Seems very well spoken, has a charisma and gravitas about thim, and also not afraid to speak his mind - apparently more so now that he's out of TPS
But I think he had some different ideas about the future of policing which would have been a breath of fresh air
Seems very well spoken, has a charisma and gravitas about thim, and also not afraid to speak his mind - apparently more so now that he's out of TPS
But I think he had some different ideas about the future of policing which would have been a breath of fresh air
He won't be unemployed for long. The problem is that policing in North America and probably Europe as well is now a political football. He along with Chief Saunders are in favour of carding but liberal lefties and Desmond Cole claim they know better.The more I read about him in various news articles, the more I like him
Seems very well spoken, has a charisma and gravitas about thim, and also not afraid to speak his mind - apparently more so now that he's out of TPS
But I think he had some different ideas about the future of policing which would have been a breath of fresh air
He won't be unemployed for long. The problem is that policing in North America and probably Europe as well is now a political football. He along with Chief Saunders are in favour of carding but liberal lefties and Desmond Cole claim they know better.
Would you be in favor of carding other non-black and brown skinned people?
I'm not so sure I'd be rushing to hire Sloly if I was looking for a Chief of Police. I'd worry about anyone running a police service who isn't a team player and who can't operate unless things are being run according to their personal views.
Chiefs of police have a great deal of power in our society, and they can be hard for the public to control (especially given the code of silence used within police forces to cover up anything wrong or just embarrassing).
Sloly would have impressed me more had he orchestrated his departure in a quiet, professional way. If then he wanted to express his views on policing, maybe with a view to securing a new job, that would have been fine.
As it was, the episode comes across in a way that makes him look petulant when his views on different policing issues did not hold sway. He began openly criticizing police policy decisions, and as a result (not surprising in a highly hierarchical organization) got a push towards the door.
It's great that he may have some views on policing that might be more popular with the majority of the public, and might even lead to more effective policing, but beware putting someone in charge of a police force who handled himself the way Slowly did. You don't want an inflexible dictator at the head of that kind of public institution.
Chiefs of police have a great deal of power in our society, and they can be hard for the public to control (especially given the code of silence used within police forces to cover up anything wrong or just embarrassing).
Sloly would have impressed me more had he orchestrated his departure in a quiet, professional way. If then he wanted to express his views on policing, maybe with a view to securing a new job, that would have been fine.
As it was, the episode comes across in a way that makes him look petulant when his views on different policing issues did not hold sway. He began openly criticizing police policy decisions, and as a result (not surprising in a highly hierarchical organization) got a push towards the door.
It's great that he may have some views on policing that might be more popular with the majority of the public, and might even lead to more effective policing, but beware putting someone in charge of a police force who handled himself the way Slowly did. You don't want an inflexible dictator at the head of that kind of public institution.
I think he gets full pension after 25 years (apparently he has 27) and is at least 45 years old (apparently he is 49). Can anybody confirm this? The question is whether there is a "gag order"?
To qualify for a 60% pension from Omers, he needs 30 years of service, or age + years of service has to be 85 or more. At this point, he will be getting a reduced pension which requires voodoo math to figure out. Unless they have agreed on some other payout from the TPS (which would be publicly available), I'm thinking he has some other gig lined up already. Maybe he'll get into the weed business with the help of Bill Blair !! It is very unlikely that he gets a severance since he left resigned, and wasn't fired.
Sometimes being a team player means the "code of silence". I'm glad that he actually spoke out about being able top run an effective police service without spending $1 billion.who isn't a team player
That is a higher threshold than I originally thought. For some reason, I thought police and fire could retire on full pension after 25 years of service.To qualify for a 60% pension from Omers, he needs 30 years of service, or age + years of service has to be 85 or more.
Sometimes being a team player means the "code of silence". I'm glad that he actually spoke out about being able top run an effective police service without spending $1 billion.
Don't get me wrong, I believe that the TPS is horribly run, wasteful, and not as effective at policing as it should be, and that's just based on the limited information available to me. There needs to be a way for the public to learn about police practices from those who can speak to the issue from direct experience (like Sloly) so that proper direction can be given to the service through the police services board. However, there is a right way to do this and a wrong way. I'm sure that Sloly had access to members of the TPSB. If he had privately presented his concerns to those people, and if they supported his views, changes could have been effected. Just spouting off looks more like an attempt to embarrass the current leadership and/or to make a play for the Chief job. If both the police leadership and the TPSB disagreed with his views, he should have simply resigned his position, and then started talking about his views once he was out of the organization.
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No want start new thread so post here.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/car-pond-1.3443430
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/11/woman-survives-submerging-car-in-icy-pond
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/car-pond-1.3443430
http://www.torontosun.com/2016/02/11/woman-survives-submerging-car-in-icy-pond
That is a higher threshold than I originally thought. For some reason, I thought police and fire could retire on full pension after 25 years of service.
Police and Fire have a lower 'normal retirement age' of 60. The general public has a normal retirement age of 65. That five year difference could have led you to thinking they only needed 25 years. He would still have to satisfy the requirement set by OMERS in order to retire with an un-reduced pension. I remember when he made the controversial comments that sources were saying some creative math would have to be used to get him his full amount. Either way though, he will not be hurting based on what he will receive from his pension when he hits 60.
Pete broke the cardinal rule and started flapping his gums when he should have remained tight lipped. A sore loser at not getting the top job may even cost him the top job in a major city, he may have to settle for a small town job as top cop. He may have good ideas, but he chose to go about it the wrong way. He should have had a closed door with the Saunders about his ideas. If Saunders shot them down, then start the process of looking for another job as chief, instead of acting out like a child who didn't get a cookie.
