Perhaps A Stupid Question ?

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Ever notice those giant cranes downtown that they use in the construction of condos. Some are 50 stories and higher in the air. And from what i have noticed, they run right through the building from top to bottom.

Anyone out there in terb land have any idea how they get that farking crane out of the inside and from the top of the building when they are finished. This has intruiged me for years.

God Bless..............Andy
 
Actually, they leave it constructed right into the building in a vacant elevator shaft.
 
the cranes are constructed (like a meccano set) inside of the elevator shaft of the bulding, once major construction is completed, the crane is removed , then the freight elevators are installed. After construction is completed, the elevators are urned into passenger use.
 
There's a guy named Esco who picks these cranes up and moves them around
 
They may often be installed inside of the elevator shaft, but that is not always the case. I'm on a job right now where they just filled in the holes after the crane was taken away. The elevator shaft was not in a good strategic position.

As for the support of the crane, at first it's supported into the ground, but once there are several floors in place and the crane needs to be raised, it is jacked up and supported by clamps onto the floor that is not existing.

For example, if the building is 10 storeys high, the crane only goes down to say, the 6th floor where it's clamped to the floor there (I'm not sure how many floor it has to go down, I'm just giving an example). Below that you won't see any of the crane framework, probably just the power cables dangling down.

They just keep jacking it up every few floors as needed.
 
Well there you go. Thanks gang. Another one of the worlds mysteries unsolved, lol. I dont care if you multiply what these crane operators make x100....you are not catching me up there swaying from side to side in a little box. Man these guys have balls....and they earn every penny.


God Bless.............Andy
 
and if you've ever been in a building under construction go to the floor the base is bolted to. Just watch how much that puppy moves around....it's pretty amazing actually. (and yeah, I know, if it didn't flex it would break).

A buddy of mine was a site manager at one of the condos down at spadina and front. When they took one of those down they had to hoist up 3 (or 4) smaller and smaller cranes to get each subsequant one down. I can't remember what he said they did with the last one. I think they took it down the man lift.....(but I could be wrong).
 
mirageLadies said:
Well there you go. Thanks gang. Another one of the worlds mysteries unsolved, lol. I dont care if you multiply what these crane operators make x100....you are not catching me up there swaying from side to side in a little box. Man these guys have balls....and they earn every penny.


God Bless.............Andy

and they have to climb up THROUGH the webbing of the crane and then out to the control cab.....I know some are so high by union rules they can only climb so far before taking a 15 minute break......

The really amazing ones are the ones they use to unload container ships. Those guys load/unload/grip containers hundreds of feet straight down between their legs.......
 
mirageLadies said:
Man these guys have balls....and they earn every penny.

Did you know that all the bridges and most of the skyscrapers in NYC were built by Canadian Mohawk Indians because no Americans (Indians and non-Indians) had the balls to work at such great heights?
 
Rockslinger said:
Did you know that all the bridges and most of the skyscrapers in NYC were built by Canadian Mohawk Indians because no Americans (Indians and non-Indians) had the balls to work at such great heights?
I was under the impression that U.S. Mohawk's also were a significant part of the membership of the Ironworkers Union.
 
tboy said:
and they have to climb up THROUGH the webbing of the crane and then out to the control cab.....I know some are so high by union rules they can only climb so far before taking a 15 minute break......

The really amazing ones are the ones they use to unload container ships. Those guys load/unload/grip containers hundreds of feet straight down between their legs.......


f**k that action. My knees start to tremble just climbing the freaking ladder to clean the eavestrough. I fell off a ladder when i was younger and did some pretty good damage. The people that say when you fall off a horse you should just jump back on. Well IMHO, those people can go jump off a bridge....lol.......

I saw a picture once, I dont know if it was real or doctored, of a bunch of guys sitting on nothing but an I-beam probably at least 60 stories in the sky, just sitting there laughing and having lunch. Unreal.

God Bless.............Andy
 
mirageLadies said:
I saw a picture once, I dont know if it was real or doctored, of a bunch of guys sitting on nothing but an I-beam probably at least 60 stories in the sky, just sitting there laughing and having lunch. Unreal.

God Bless.............Andy

There are a few around. Here's one...

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Crane operators make big coin, probably the highest paid workers on a job site, for two reasons:

1) They are so freakin' high up in the air in a little swaying box

2) They all end up killing someone accidentally at some point; screws you up like a subway driver hitting a suicide jumping off a platform
 
mirageLadies said:
f**k that action. My knees start to tremble just climbing the freaking ladder to clean the eavestrough. I fell off a ladder when i was younger and did some pretty good damage. The people that say when you fall off a horse you should just jump back on. Well IMHO, those people can go jump off a bridge....lol.......

I saw a picture once, I dont know if it was real or doctored, of a bunch of guys sitting on nothing but an I-beam probably at least 60 stories in the sky, just sitting there laughing and having lunch. Unreal.

God Bless.............Andy

There's a famous shot of an iron worker from the '30's standing on a vertical i beam towards the top of the empire state building during its construction. There's all kinds of film and photos of the buildings going up in the 30's. It's scary what they did/do. Speak to any iron worker and they'll tell you they HATE the safety straps. They spend so much time fucking around with them that many feel they are more of a hazard than a help. I know one who bitches all the time about having to have two. When they are crossing a horizontal beam and have to go around a joint, they have to first hitch the second past the connection, then unhook and rewind the first so they are always attached.

During one of the safety courses I took when I worked on a condo building the instructor told us what to do when someone did fall. The first thing she said was: after you haul him up, have a blanket or something to wrap him in because you'll save him the embarrassment of everyone seeing him after he shit his pants. She said she did not know of one reported case of someone falling and NOT shitting themselves.

Another thing (kind of funny actually) she said that when you set your fall arrest harness a) make sure it is secured to something that can withstand 600 - 1000 lbs (because when you're freefalling and you stop, that's about the stress you put on the harness) and b) to make sure your lanyard is SHORTER than the distance to the next solid object. She said that she's had guys set them with 30 feet of play, and them being 20 feet from the ground lol.....(or something like that).

I can't tell you HOW many times I basically had to force guys to wear a harness when they were working within 4 feet of the edge (with no railing).

(and yeah, I'm sweating bullets just talking about the heights too lol).
 
mirageLadies said:
a bunch of guys sitting on nothing but an I-beam probably at least 60 stories in the sky,

Yup, Canadian Mohawks or Canadian Mohawks who happened to be residing in the U.S. at the time. Notice the darker skin colour and high cheekbones. Definitely Canadian Mohawks.
 
tboy said:
There's a famous shot of an iron worker from the '30's standing on a vertical i beam towards the top of the empire state building during its construction. There's all kinds of film and photos of the buildings going up in the 30's. It's scary what they did/do. Speak to any iron worker and they'll tell you they HATE the safety straps. They spend so much time fucking around with them that many feel they are more of a hazard than a help. I know one who bitches all the time about having to have two. When they are crossing a horizontal beam and have to go around a joint, they have to first hitch the second past the connection, then unhook and rewind the first so they are always attached.

During one of the safety courses I took when I worked on a condo building the instructor told us what to do when someone did fall. The first thing she said was: after you haul him up, have a blanket or something to wrap him in because you'll save him the embarrassment of everyone seeing him after he shit his pants. She said she did not know of one reported case of someone falling and NOT shitting themselves.

Another thing (kind of funny actually) she said that when you set your fall arrest harness a) make sure it is secured to something that can withstand 600 - 1000 lbs (because when you're freefalling and you stop, that's about the stress you put on the harness) and b) to make sure your lanyard is SHORTER than the distance to the next solid object. She said that she's had guys set them with 30 feet of play, and them being 20 feet from the ground lol.....(or something like that).

I can't tell you HOW many times I basically had to force guys to wear a harness when they were working within 4 feet of the edge (with no railing).

(and yeah, I'm sweating bullets just talking about the heights too lol).


I wonder if any seasoned iron worker has just suddenly lost his nerve while working. I read an article in the newspaper once, of an airline pilot that was flying for over 20 years, suddenly came up with a severe case of being afraid of heights. He started flipping out in the cock-pit and the co-pilot almost had to knock the poor bastard out and take over the controls. My hats off to all you workers that have the stomach for that.

God Bless............Andy