Peaceful Protests

jsanchez

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You obviously have never studied a single revolution in the history of the world.
Your posts really make you out as someone who is scared and frantically hoping that his 'words' will make a difference this time.
This is not a revolution, not when change can easily happen at the ballot box.
What we have is a bunch of misfits and anarchists who think they're the Bolsheviks. The US is one big jungle but it's not monarchist France or czarist Russia, while here in Canada you got a benign center-left government. When millions start flooding the streets trying to topple the government then we might agree on something.
 

Butler1000

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But, they're not destroying the properties of the "powerful", are they? More so, in the cities most affected by the daily violence, the powers that run the cities are clearly on the side of mayhem and very reluctant to take action against the mob.
Id say the Federal courthouse where the protesters were illegally detained and the Police union Building send a pretty clear message to the powerful.

Same with the Washington March to the White House and numerous others to city Hall.

And they are reluctant because they are peaceful. The militarized forces are the ones starting things.
You grew up with this type of thing. You should be sounding the alarm. Not defending them.
 

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Id say the Federal courthouse where the protesters were illegally detained and the Police union Building send a pretty clear message to the powerful.

Same with the Washington March to the White House and numerous others to city Hall.

And they are reluctant because they are peaceful. The militarized forces are the ones starting things.
You grew up with this type of thing. You should be sounding the alarm. Not defending them.
Burning down your home or business sends a message. Threatening your life sends a message. Vandalizing a public building with graffiti or destroying a monument of someone long dead is virtue signalling. Real revolutions are conducted by eliminating PEOPLE because you can always get rid of the "symbols" later.
 

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So apparently it is not about BLM, rather this is about Donald Trump

There is this thing called an election
It was designed so that power is peacefully transferred to the majorities choice
It was also designed to prevent the use of force as the deciding factor
Trump has already said he may not abide by the results of the election.
Forget about that argument.

Protest is a part of democracy.
 

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So apparently it is not about BLM, rather this is about Donald Trump

There is this thing called an election
It was designed so that power is peacefully transferred to the majorities choice
It was also designed to prevent the use of force as the deciding factor
It's about income inequality, legal inequality, funding and tax inequality, militarized police enabled by legislation and funding to go to far. It's about a bad justice system.

This hasn't even hit it's high yet. 32% of households couldn't make their July housing payment of rent or mortgage. Let alone small businesses. Soon the evictions and foreclosures will start and it will be worse than 2008.

What do you think will happen when unemployment hits 30% in a pandemic, and 100 million people don't have secure housing?
 

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Burning down your home or business sends a message. Threatening your life sends a message. Vandalizing a public building with graffiti or destroying a monument of someone long dead is virtue signalling. Real revolutions are conducted by eliminating PEOPLE because you can always get rid of the "symbols" later.
Getting rid of the symbols of oppression sends a message.
 

Butler1000

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Burning down your home or business sends a message. Threatening your life sends a message. Vandalizing a public building with graffiti or destroying a monument of someone long dead is virtue signalling. Real revolutions are conducted by eliminating PEOPLE because you can always get rid of the "symbols" later.
May well be coming.

See my post to LaRue above of the conditions that are brewing.
 

Frankfooter

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May well be coming.

See my post to LaRue above of the conditions that are brewing.
Ah, your accelerationist fantasy coming to life?
Have you written your internet manifesto about the changes yet?

And have you figured out how the boogaloos are going to administer universal health care in the US? Will it be socialist like Canada or based on better medicare help?
 

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All your posts make you out as a clueless angry teenager threatening people on the internet
You are off your meds again.
Where have I once threatened anyone?
All your posts make you out as a scared old man, watching his safe 'white world' disappearing from right in front of his eyes.
 
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This is not a revolution, not when change can easily happen at the ballot box.
What we have is a bunch of misfits and anarchists who think they're the Bolsheviks. The US is one big jungle but it's not monarchist France or czarist Russia, while here in Canada you got a benign center-left government. When millions start flooding the streets trying to topple the government then we might agree on something.
What is wrong with you?
Change can happen at the ballot box?
That is one of the stupidest posts in recent history.
This is not a 4 year old problem.
This is a generations-old, institutional problem.
Please, tell me, genius, which chit to punch on the ballot to solve this problem.
 

JohnLarue

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You are off your meds again.
Where have I once threatened anyone?
All your posts make you out as a scared old man, watching his safe 'white world' disappearing from right in front of his eyes.
you have been told many times I am not scared by your threats.
Nothing is disappearing right in front of my eyes
All your posts make you out as a clueless angry teenager threatening people on the internet

Try accepting some responsibility in life and grow up or keep promoting violence, chaos and destruction online from your parents basement.
 

JohnLarue

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It's about income inequality, legal inequality, funding and tax inequality, militarized police enabled by legislation and funding to go to far. It's about a bad justice system.
and there you have it, a laundry list of grievances, complaints and "I want what I want and I want it now"
You cant even fit all of that bitching onto one placard.
You need to pick a cause and focus , otherwise you get labelled (rightfully so) as one of those serial complainers.
Nobody will want to listen to you let alone support your cause(s)

And you think throwing frozen water bottle projectiles at police is going to solve all of that?
You have a much greater chance of getting whacked upside the head with a nightstick and a trip to jail

Lets break down your grievances and ask how a rational person might address these at personal level, rather than blaming the rest of society
income inequality- You can acquire in demand skills that lead to high income or you can complain about this for the rest of your life. This is not something governments can address , nor should they try
legal inequality -- You can "not break the law" or complain to your court appointed attorney, that he/she is a shit lawyer and did not get you acquitted
funding and tax inequality- You can stop putting your hand out...... The top 10% pay over half of the taxes in his country, 70% in the USA so you may want to rethink that one
militarized police enabled by legislation- You could recognize that without police you almost certainly would already been a victim of a violent crime (probably while you were a child)

You are able to control what happens to you, try controlling others or try changing society and you wind up bitter and angry- opps too late

This hasn't even hit it's high yet. 32% of households couldn't make their July housing payment of rent or mortgage. Let alone small businesses. Soon the evictions and foreclosures will start and it will be worse than 2008.
And who's fault is that? a tiny little virus, which can and is affecting everyone , including the multiple targets of your hatred.
But you think you can fix this problem by rioting and looting,
Looking for a little mob justice on the tax paying landlords are you? Good thing the police are fully armed and fully funded

What do you think will happen when unemployment hits 30% in a pandemic, and 100 million people don't have secure housing?
Well first off it sound like you might have a nervous breakdown
Secondly, nobody know how this will play out, but I can be certain that violence, rioting and looting wont fix it

Just like so many of the loonies, you are mad at everything and everyone. There is only one person who can address that problem
 
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Butler1000

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and there you have it, a laundry list of grievances, complaints and "I want what I want and I want it now"
You cant even fit all of that bitching onto one placard.
You need to pick a cause and focus , otherwise you get labelled (rightfully so) as one of those serial complainers.
Nobody will want to listen to you let alone support your cause(s)

And you think throwing frozen water bottle projectiles at police is going to solve all of that?
You have a much greater chance of getting whacked upside the head with a nightstick and a trip to jail

Lets break down your grievances and ask how a rational person might address these at personal level, rather than blaming the rest of society
income inequality- You can acquire in demand skills that lead to high income or you can complain about this for the rest of your life. This is not something governments can address , nor should they try
legal inequality -- You can "not break the law" or complain to your court appointed attorney, that he/she is a shit lawyer and did not get you acquitted
funding and tax inequality- You can stop putting your hand out...... The top 10% pay over half of the taxes in his country, 70% in the USA so you may want to rethink that one
militarized police enabled by legislation- You could recognize that without police you almost certainly would already been a victim of a violent crime (probably while you were a child)

You are able to control what happens to you, try controlling others or try changing society and you wind up bitter and angry- opps too late



And who's fault is that? a tiny little virus, which can and is affecting everyone , including the multiple targets of your hatred.
But you think you can fix this problem by rioting and looting,
Looking for a little mob justice on the tax paying landlords are you? Good thing the police are fully armed and fully funded


Well first off it sound like you might have a nervous breakdown
Secondly, nobody know how this will play out, but I can be certain that violence, rioting and looting wont fix it

Just like so many of the loonies, you are mad at everything and everyone. There is only one person who can address that problem
Go ahead. Stick your head in the sand.

And watch Portland spread.
 

Frankfooter

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Lets break down your grievances and ask how a rational person might address these at personal level, rather than blaming the rest of society
income inequality- You can acquire in demand skills that lead to high income or you can complain about this for the rest of your life. This is not something governments can address , nor should they try
The best way to fix income inequality is through progressive taxation which must be implemented by governments.
We had much more equitable taxes here until about the 70's, since then the divide between rich and poor has gotten bigger.
It has to be fixed by government policy and if no party is willing to talk about it then people must get on the streets to convince them its important.
 

JohnLarue

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Go ahead. Stick your head in the sand.

And watch Portland spread.
go ahead.
whine, complain and bitch about every perceived injustice in society and wonder why nobody listens to you
The reason: No focus

Go ahead
be violent, destroy property and throw frozen water projectiles at police in the name of every perceived injustice in society and wonder why you got your skull cracked with a billy club
The reason: you broke the law
 

JohnLarue

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What is wrong with you?
Change can happen at the ballot box?
That is one of the stupidest posts in recent history.
This is not a 4 year old problem.
This is a generations-old, institutional problem.
Please, tell me, genius, which chit to punch on the ballot to solve this problem.
Says the angry teenager, who does not recognize, how fortunate he is to have the right to vote
If you hate it here so god damn much, I am sure you can find some dictator run shit hole where they view elections with the same degree of contempt as you do

I would suggest you wait a little bit before telling them how their system is not to you liking and you want to change it via violence, chaos and destruction
You know, "Get the lay of the land" before you decide they need a revolution
 

Butler1000

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go ahead.
whine, complain and bitch about every perceived injustice in society and wonder why nobody listens to you
The reason: No focus

Go ahead
be violent, destroy property and throw frozen water projectiles at police in the name of every perceived injustice in society and wonder why you got your skull cracked with a billy club
The reason: you broke the law
Ask the moms who did none of those things and were tear gassed.

Or the 53 year old Vet in uniform beaten with clubs just because he went to remind them of their oath.

Did they break the law when they didn't do those things?
 
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