Panama City, Panama (PTY) Veneto Hotel and Casino. DO NOT STAY HERE!

[MuffDiver]

After reading this, I would avoid Panama myself and continue going to Cuba (unless Phil Nasty was my wing man lol).

"Toda La Noche" - meh, I get tired after dining, going to a club, drink, meet a chica, then go back to my casa and fuck. Now I want to sleep. She can go home, lol. But if it costs $400 for a lovely chica, then I guess TLN makes sense. She can cuddle with you and then you can have morning sex. In Cuba, prostitution is illegal, so the ladies do not want to leave to be seen in broad daylight wearing their skimpy club clothes.

@ Muffdiver, what if you tipped that security guy 10 or 20 bucks. He might have left?

I doubt it, as their modus operandi is for the front desk to phone your room and tell you that you have a woman in your room. Really??? I did not know this, lol. They also repeatedly knock on your door once the phone call goes nowhere. I actually had to unplug the phone to finish my session. When we left, security was waiting at the elevator and blocked our path to the exit. They actually threatened to prevent the lady from leaving.

They run a business, albeit a shady one and they are free to do as they please. My beef is none of this chica fee nonsense is documented on the booking site, the hotel/casino's website or upon check-in. Had it been documented, I would have made an informed decision and either checked in or not. In this case, I would have booked elsewhere as a $42.80 USD per night chica fee is robbery.

I've been to Havana, Cuba and I liked Panama more, just not this thieving hotel. Of course a wingman always helps in any city/country.

When I go back to Panama, it will mostly likely be a rented apartment and I will explain in writing I have friends and make sure there aren't any additional charges for that. Same if I try a different hotel. I do not throw parties, nor make a mess or damage the place I stay in. I just like to have some bedroom fun and am adult enough to take my own precautions, such as locking up all valuables and not doing TDL with anyone I do not know well. I also do not leave unattended drinks and always pour my own. In 12+ years of doing this, I have never been robbed. Obviously part of this is luck, but a larger part is preparation.

 

[GPIDEAL]

I doubt it, as their modus operandi is for the front desk to phone your room and tell you that you have a woman in your room. Really??? I did not know this, lol. They also repeatedly knock on your door once the phone call goes nowhere. I actually had to unplug the phone to finish my session. When we left, security was waiting at the elevator and blocked our path to the exit. They actually threatened to prevent the lady from leaving.

They run a business, albeit a shady one and they are free to do as they please. My beef is none of this chica fee nonsense is documented on the booking site, the hotel/casino's website or upon check-in. Had it been documented, I would have made an informed decision and either checked in or not. In this case, I would have booked elsewhere as a $42.80 USD per night chica fee is robbery.

I've been to Havana, Cuba and I liked Panama more, just not this thieving hotel. Of course a wingman always helps in any city/country.

When I go back to Panama, it will mostly likely be a rented apartment and I will explain in writing I have friends and make sure there aren't any additional charges for that. Same if I try a different hotel. I do not throw parties, nor make a mess or damage the place I stay in. I just like to have some bedroom fun and am adult enough to take my own precautions, such as locking up all valuables and not doing TDL with anyone I do not know well. I also do not leave unattended drinks and always pour my own. In 12+ years of doing this, I have never been robbed. Obviously part of this is luck, but a larger part is preparation.

I rent a private casa in Havana. Once tried to take 3 muchachas to my casa one night (yes, 3 girls - it kinda happened by accident, cuz my two buddies did not go with them) but my landlord said no way. My smart novia (what a goddess) tried to sweet talk him. But he said no due to "La polizia". So we went to her friends place. Cost me another 55 CUC for those accommodations, but I had a foursome with 3 Cuban ladies.

When I stayed at the Panorama in Havana, the chica fee was 65 CUC or something like that. Once I paid, the security guard came up stairs asking for money but I flashed my receipt that I paid (did he think I was stupid?). You could try to bribe a security guard, but the problem with that is, the head of security might knock on your door and request that you pay the front desk, so you end up paying twice. Gotta be careful.

You mentioned hot Colombians (man, I remember when Bianca Sanchez, the Colombian SP worked in Toronto - mama mia what a doll). Have you visited Cartagena?

 

[GPIDEAL]

Not the Toda La Noche song I was thinking about, but this is hot lo

 

[GPIDEAL]

Not hot like the one above, but the artist and song is more popular.

 

[MuffDiver]

Dude over $42?

Not worth the stress. Offer $100 for the week and they will probably take it.

Thanks, but pointless now. So you would be fine with booking a lady and she charges you an additional $50 once you are there and after you already paid her? The amount isn't the issue - changing the terms of the contract is the issue for me and forcing me to comply is the issue for me. Losing the $42 bucks did not change my life.

 

[MuffDiver]

I rent a private casa in Havana. Once tried to take 3 muchachas to my casa one night (yes, 3 girls - it kinda happened by accident, cuz my two buddies did not go with them) but my landlord said no way. My smart novia (what a goddess) tried to sweet talk him. But he said no due to "La polizia". So we went to her friends place. Cost me another 55 CUC for those accommodations, but I had a foursome with 3 Cuban ladies.

When I stayed at the Panorama in Havana, the chica fee was 65 CUC or something like that. Once I paid, the security guard came up stairs asking for money but I flashed my receipt that I paid (did he think I was stupid?). You could try to bribe a security guard, but the problem with that is, the head of security might knock on your door and request that you pay the front desk, so you end up paying twice. Gotta be careful.

You mentioned hot Colombians (man, I remember when Bianca Sanchez, the Colombian SP worked in Toronto - mama mia what a doll). Have you visited Cartagena?

I read about the double payment scam on another forum, so I am usually prepared for that one by not offering. I do remember and did see Bianca Sanchez before she retired. She was sooooooo hot and I have been searching for someone like her since.

Have not been to Cartagena yet, but is on the list along with Medellin. I am in Cali now and trip has been smooth!

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I read about the double payment scam on another forum, so I am usually prepared for that one by not offering. I do remember and did see Bianca Sanchez before she retired. She was sooooooo hot and I have been searching for someone like her since.

Have not been to Cartagena yet, but is on the list along with Medellin. I am in Cali now and trip has been smooth!

If you like girls with lighter skin then go to Medellin.
Chicks are much hotter there than Cartagena.

Only downside is Medellin doesn't have beaches.

The hottest chicks in Medellin are called Paisas

 

[MuffDiver]

If you like girls with lighter skin then go to Medellin.
Chicks are much hotter there than Cartagena.

Only downside is Medellin doesn't have beaches.

The hottest chicks in Medellin are called Paisas

Thanks for the tips Phil - Medellin is probably my next Colombia trip, sometime in 2018. My next trip will be back to Peru sometime around March, hopefully for a month or two.

I like sexy and beautiful women, as well as variety, so skin color or tone is not important to me. Can't say I have a specific preference - all depends on my mood and her attitude. I've been with women who I did not find that physically attractive initially, but then as I got to know them, there sexiness just rubbed off on me and I became a fan.

 

[carter80]

If you like girls with lighter skin then go to Medellin.
Chicks are much hotter there than Cartagena.

Only downside is Medellin doesn't have beaches.

The hottest chicks in Medellin are called Paisas

fyi all people from Medellin and the surrounding region call themselves paisas.

Medellin is fantastic and pussy is cheap.

Cartagena however has girls from all over Colombia including plenty of paisas working the beach, freelancing and strip clubs. They go work there for the anonymity and because they can make more money in a tourist town. Plenty of lighter skinned women to be found.

 

[carter80]

After reading this, I would avoid Panama myself and continue going to Cuba (unless Phil Nasty was my wing man lol).

"Toda La Noche" - meh, I get tired after dining, going to a club, drink, meet a chica, then go back to my casa and fuck. Now I want to sleep. She can go home, lol. But if it costs $400 for a lovely chica, then I guess TLN makes sense. She can cuddle with you and then you can have morning sex. In Cuba, prostitution is illegal, so the ladies do not want to leave to be seen in broad daylight wearing their skimpy club clothes.

@ Muffdiver, what if you tipped that security guy 10 or 20 bucks. He might have left?

le palace has quite an impressive line up for sure, but there are less expensive options with lots of talent such as habanos. $100-$150 short term seems to be the going rate.

I stayed at the hyatt recently, nice rooms $15 fee for a visitor.

Veneto has been old news for over a year now, or sat least that's the intel over on ISG

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

fyi all people from Medellin and the surrounding region call themselves paisas.

Medellin is fantastic and pussy is cheap.

Cartagena however has girls from all over Colombia including plenty of paisas working the beach, freelancing and strip clubs. They go work there for the anonymity and because they can make more money in a tourist town. Plenty of lighter skinned women to be found

Disagree with your last part, for me all the hotties were in the interior of Colombia, not so much the coast.

But to each their own

 

[carter80]

Disagree with your last part, for me all the hotties were in the interior of Colombia, not so much the coast.

But to each their own

My point is simply that plenty of lighter skin women from the interior go to Cartagena to work. I've actually hooked up with numerous paisas in Cartagena, many of whom told me they wouldn't be caught dead working in Medellín last their family find out.

The population of course does have more African descendency than other parts. For me at least, although Medellín has the reputation, Cali and Barranquilla have the most beautiful women to my liking. But like you said, to each their own.