Palin a religious whack job?

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LancsLad said:
Not at all.

I'm simply saying that while you lot think it fair game to poke away at the religious convictions of a White Christian, you bleat away on your hind legs with self-righteous indignation whenever the muslame fellows lineage is mentioned in specific non-PC terms.


Pretty typical of your lot.


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Au contraire dear sir

People of "my lot" have little use for religious rubbish of any stripe, be it muslim, christian, buddhist or a fanatical devotion to the flying spaghetti monster. You really should do some reading. People of "my lot" consider the Muslim delusions to be more harmful than the Christian delusions. People of my lot pay no attention to colour of skin when evaluating politicians. And people of "my lot" don't inanely pigeon-hole others into a "lot" without having a clue what we're talking about.

If you had actually understood the plain English in which my previous post was expressed, you'd have been aware that my main point was that the Obama campaign was not going to take any stock of your views as expressed on terb. How this got me lumped in with a "lot" can only be explained by a certain cognitive dissonance on the part of he who cast me in with such "lot". Or do you merely assume that anyone on earth who disagrees with you on any point must perforce be part of said "lot"?
 

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johnhenrygalt said:
Au contraire dear sir

People of "my lot" have little use for religious rubbish of any stripe, be it muslim, christian, buddhist or a fanatical devotion to the flying spaghetti monster. You really should do some reading. People of "my lot" consider the Muslim delusions to be more harmful than the Christian delusions. People of my lot pay no attention to colour of skin when evaluating politicians. And people of "my lot" don't inanely pigeon-hole others into a "lot" without having a clue what we're talking about.

If you had actually understood the plain English in which my previous post was expressed, you'd have been aware that my main point was that the Obama campaign was not going to take any stock of your views as expressed on terb. How this got me lumped in with a "lot" can only be explained by a certain cognitive dissonance on the part of he who cast me in with such "lot". Or do you merely assume that anyone on earth who disagrees with you on any point must perforce be part of said "lot"?



Lots of fancy learnen words there.

I didn't attack hussain due to the colour of his skin, I pointed out the tenuous ties he has with the "American experience" and question his base loyalties.

I have never expected nor care if the nation dem bosses read TERB and see/heed my posts. Thats the kind of silly fuzzy logic best left to our danish friend.

My world is admittedly a little more cut and dried than yours. I was taught using fairly basic rules. Khaki uniform = our lot= lives. Not like us= enemy= eliminate. Tough to translate into politics.



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Ah, but remember our very own Stockwell Day who believed that man coexisted with the dinosaurs? (In this context, not meaning Lancs.) Unfortunately, we seem to be living in a age of religious loonies.

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We've had religious loonies since the beginning. When is someone going to question Joe Biden about transubstantiation? Can Americans entrust the Vice-presidency to someone who thinks that a priest, by pronouncing the "hocus pocus" can turn a wafer into the body of Christ? And what about the whacked-out "substitutionary sacrifice" theory. Obama declared on national television that he thinks some nutball's death on a cross 2000 years ago absolves him of sin - talk about loony.

And what about our own religious loons like Paul Martin, Jean Chrétien, Brian Mulroney, Joe Clark and Pierre Trudeau, all of whom professed to believe that the pope was the actual apostolic successor of St Peter appointed by God and that his Church actually hold the keys of heaven and hell? Then throw in their beliefs about the immaculate conception, virgin birth, purgatory, the pantheon of saint, an actual hell - and you're looking at nutballs every bit as whacked out as Stock Day.

And as for the Muslims, to think that "God" dictated that incoherent collection of ramblings called the Qu'ran/Koran/Coran directly to Mohammed, that Mecca is some sort of holy site and that a bunch of raving towel-headed lunatics killing and being killed are doing "god's" will is even wackier.

The religious nuttiness was worse in the past when we even had the secular religions of Hitler and Stalin worship - those ones were even crazier as those two nutballs didn't even promise eternal life and virgins to the men who gave up all they had for the greater glory of their human gods.

The nuttiness has been around for a long time and isn't going away any time soon.
 

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Lancs needs to explain how Harvard and Columbia are terrorist schools? :D

also by us does he mean the car thieves and pregnant 15 year olds in his homeland of Lancashire?
 

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LancsLad said:
My world is admittedly a little more cut and dried than yours. I was taught using fairly basic rules. Khaki uniform = our lot= lives. Not like us= enemy= eliminate. Tough to translate into politics.



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Not to mention general society.
 

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As well, I wouldn't want a leader who was so credulous and unquestioning.
Every voter has to make up their own mind. However, I don't think an otherwise qualified candidate for public office should be ruled out just because they happen to reject evolution.

That said, however, I don't think it says much for their theological or biological sophistication, but if posters here on TERB were being 'weeded out' based on the first criteria from what I've seen posted over the years there would be far fewer of us here.
 

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scouser1 said:
Lancs needs to explain how Harvard and Columbia are terrorist schools? :D

also by us does he mean the car thieves and pregnant 15 year olds in his homeland of Lancashire?


I'll continue to give you the free pass.




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He saw the New Yorker cover ...

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you think Obama is a terrorist?
And believed it!!! What a brainless a-hole!!:rolleyes:
 

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y2kmark said:
And believed it!!! What a brainless a-hole!!




You might think so, given your limited intelligence but most of us have brainless assholes. That yours contains your "thought centre" speaks volumes.

You sound like one of dem dems dat be insane for da hussain.:D
 

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Aardvark154 said:
Every voter has to make up their own mind. However, I don't think an otherwise qualified candidate for public office should be ruled out just because they happen to reject evolution.

That said, however, I don't think it says much for their theological or biological sophistication, but if posters here on TERB were being 'weeded out' based on the first criteria from what I've seen posted over the years there would be far fewer of us here.
Ideally I should not even be aware of how candidates feel about the irrefutable evidence of evolution or the silliness of intelligent design. All that should matter is their governing philosophy and proposed policies. But since the playing field has changed and their beliefs are exposed, the ones who reject evolution better have some damn good freakin' policies for me to accept them.
 

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you guys are too hard on Lancslad...he is [imo] a sorry piece of ...fill in your own blank....who says outrageous things to get attention..much like a 4 yr old..
 

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ogibowt said:
you guys are too hard on Lancslad...he is [imo] a sorry piece of ...fill in your own blank....who says outrageous things to get attention..much like a 4 yr old..


Is that you tov????????



.:D



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LancsLad said:
Better a text message or PM from GOD, than a scroll of drivel written by the islame terrorist profit motive guy.

hussain is not on GOD's friends and family plan.
LOL!!!
If you start channeling JAJA I'm going to start calling you JAJA Laddie!....:eek:


LancsLad said:
Is that you tov????????
LOL!!!!! You really miss him, eh?


No HOMO....
 

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Weird Theology in Wasilla: Sarah Palin's Pentecostal Church

The more they look into this flakey broad's background, the Ditzier she looks!
....and the OLD fart wants her to be one heartbeat away from being POTUS!!!
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Weird Theology in Wasilla: A Look Inside Sarah Palin's Pentecostal Church

By Bruce Wilson, Talk To Action. Posted September 8, 2008.

Exposing the unusual, highly politicized religious beliefs held at the Wasilla Assembly of God.

On June 8, 2008 Palin was publicly blessed, with the "laying on of hands" before six thousand Wasilla area church members, by Head Wasilla Assembly of God Pastor Ed Kalnins and on the same day both Kalnins and Palin described, at a "Masters Commission" ceremony at the Wasilla Assembly of God church, how she had been blessed prior to winning the Alaska governorship by an African cleric known for driving the "spirit of witchcraft" out of a town in Kenya, after which town supposedly crime rates dropped "almost to zero."

Sarah Palin's churches are actively involved in a resurgent movement that was declared heretical by the Assemblies of God in 1949. This is the same 'Spiritual Warfare' movement that was featured in the award winning movie, "Jesus Camp," which showed young children being trained to do battle for the Lord. At least three of four of Palin's churches are involved with major organizations and leaders of this movement, which is referred to as The Third Wave of the Holy Spirit or the New Apostolic Reformation. The movement is training a young "Joel's Army" to take dominion over the United States and the world.

Along with her entire family, Sarah Palin was re-baptized at twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of God in Wasilla, Alaska and she attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002: over two and 1/2 decades. Sarah Palin's extensive pattern of association with the Wasilla Assembly of God has continued nearly up to the day she was picked by Senator John McCain as a vice-presidential running mate.

Palin's dedication to the Wasilla church is indicated by a Saturday, September 7, 2008, McClatchy news service story detailing possibly improper use of state travel funds by Palin for a trip she made to Wasilla, Alaska to attend, on June 8, 2008, both a Wasilla Assembly of God "Masters Commission" graduation ceremony and also a multi-church Wasilla area event known as "One Lord Sunday."

At the latter event, Palin and Alaska LT Governor Scott Parnell were publicly blessed, onstage before an estimated crowd of 6,000, through the "laying on of hands" by Wasilla Assembly of God's Head Pastor Ed Kalnins whose sermons espouse such theological concepts as the possession of geographic territories by demonic spirits and the inter-generational transmission of family "curses". Palin has also been blessed, or "anointed", by an African cleric, prominent in the Third Wave movement, who has repeatedly visited the Wasilla Assembly of God and claims to have effected positive, dramatic social change in a Kenyan town by driving out a "spirit of witchcraft."

The Wasilla Assembly of God church is deeply involved with both Third Wave activities and theology. Their Master's Commission program is part of an three year post-high school international training program with studies in prophecy, intercessory prayer, Biblical exegesis, authority and leadership.

Watch Bruce Wilson's video documentary detailing the extreme Religious Right connections to the Wasilla Assembly of God church, "Sarah Palin's Churches and the Third Wave":
 

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The Crunge said:
Ideally I should not even be aware of how candidates feel about the irrefutable evidence of evolution or the silliness of intelligent design. All that should matter is their governing philosophy and proposed policies. But since the playing field has changed and their beliefs are exposed, the ones who reject evolution better have some damn good freakin' policies for me to accept them.
Yeah, but you're just a Canadian so I don't think a US candidate has anything to prove to you..... You should be focusing on the ass kicking the Libs are going to take from Harper in 6 weeks.

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..any-one who thinks the end of the world is around the corner.
Is no one who's grimy little hands I want around the nuclear button.
She is a whack job.Unfortuntely these day's in the US ,
she has alot of company.
 

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The more they look into this flakey broad's background, the Ditzier she looks!"On June 8, 2008 Palin was publicly blessed, with the "laying on of hands" before six thousand Wasilla area church members, by Head Wasilla Assembly of God Pastor Ed Kalnins"
Along with her entire family, Sarah Palin was re-baptized at twelve at the Wasilla Assembly of God in Wasilla, Alaska and she attended the church from the time she was ten until 2002
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Boy oh boy having hands laid upon you that's sure "flaky" :rolleyes:

Millions of people throughout the U.S. have it done, including large numbers in mainstream Christian denominations, I'm sure tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people every single Sunday of the year.

Now as to being rebaptized, I believe it to be extremely poor theology (one baptism is sufficient once and for all), but since to become a full member of any of the Eastern Orthodox Churches (if one was not baptized into the same as a child) they insist upon it for all purposes other than marriage, I somehow don’t believe that one can say that this is unique to Pentecostalist Protestants.
 

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Aardvark154 said:
Boy oh boy having hands laid upon you that's sure "flaky" :rolleyes:

Millions of people throughout the U.S. have it done, including large numbers in mainstream Christian denominations, I'm sure tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people every single Sunday of the year.

Now as to being rebaptized, I believe it to be extremely poor theology (one baptism is sufficient once and for all), but since to become a full member of any of the Eastern Orthodox Churches (if one was not baptized into the same as a child) they insist upon it for all purposes other than marriage, I somehow don’t believe that one can say that this is unique to Pentecostalist Protestants.
No, believing the Pope is infallible, that's flaky....

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onthebottom said:
No, believing the Pope is infallible, that's flaky....
Now about that the majority of Christians including (quiet now) large numbers of Roman Catholics would agree with you.
 
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