Palestinians Teach Their Children to Hate and Kill

DATYdude

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Well, if Cinelli can do it, so can I. The difference? He's full of shit.

Check this stuff out, this is not an isolated incident, this is part of the Palestinian philosophy of constant war:

Children as Combatants in PA Ideology
http://www.pmw.org.il/tv part3.html

Some examples:

PA Child: "Daddy bought me a machine gun and a rifle"
Promoting violence and terror among children through video clips and other children's programming has long been a prominent component of Palestinian Authority Television. This week a young girl was asked to recite a poem on PA TV. The poem is the recounting of a present received from daddy; "a machine gun and rifle."


Four-year-old girl vows to be suicide terrorist in Hamas TV dramatization - March 21, 2007

Hamas TV broadcast a video dramatization of the four-year-old daughter of female suicide bomber Reem Riyashi singing to her dead mother and vowing to follow in her footsteps. The video clip ends as the little girl picks up sticks of explosives from her mother's drawer.
 

basketcase

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Add all the kids shows with various animals (including a mickey mouse rip-off) that have glorified violence as a solution.

I believe that pmw has also done an extensive look at the newest PA curriculum.
 

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just wondering what the surprise is here. This has been going on for decades. It is also prevalant in madras's around the world . The Brits (i believe) have started vetting the curriculum of some religeous schools just because of this trend
 

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basketcase said:
Add all the kids shows with various animals (including a mickey mouse rip-off) that have glorified violence as a solution.

I believe that pmw has also done an extensive look at the newest PA curriculum.
PMW is run by an American, Itamar Marcus, who took off to Israel to live as a settler/bum and found a career as an Israeli government propagandist. Many people have found serious errors in his translations that completely change the character of messages. That's not an unusual tactic used by Israeli supporters, witness MEMRI and CAMERA.
 

DATYdude

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I call bullshit. You think they would let a cameraman film the whole thing?

So far you haven't denied that Palestinian teach their children to hate and kill Jews. I take that to mean you agree, and presumably you also agree that it's despicable.
 

gryfin

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DATYdude said:
I call bullshit. You think they would let a cameraman film the whole thing?

So far you haven't denied that Palestinian teach their children to hate and kill Jews. I take that to mean you agree, and presumably you also agree that it's despicable.
Yes, that cameraman is lucky to be alive. Look at what happened recently to the Reuters reporter who filmed an Israeli tank. They blew him away ( along with a kid and other civilians) while he took his pictures.
 

DATYdude

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Staged.

Do I have to go and find the numerous examples of fairly obvious deceptions the Pals propaganda machine manages to produce? The Jenin "massacre" that never happened is the best example but there are so many, the faked death of Mohammed al-Dura is another good example.

The stupidity of it is Israel does enough bad stuff that the deceptions only make the Palestinians look bad, to the people that would consider caring.


In any case, thank you gryf for agreeing with me that the Palestinians teach little children through hate cartoons. Since you don't care to comment I guess that's also an admission that you think this is athe normal course of events, which is really sad.
 

gryfin

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This is another reason:

"Dr. Eyad Al Sarraj, director of the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, stated that Palestinian children have lost the sense of security and the sense of happiness. According to a study conducted by the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, 45% of children said that they had watched Israeli soldiers beat and insult their fathers in front of them. “The fact that Palestinian children take refuge in Palestinian organizations reflects their desire to gain a new strong identity that can protect them,” Al Sarraj added."

This is an explanation grounded in reality.
 

DATYdude

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Doesn't make it right.

Teaching kids to hate is NOT "an identity that can protect them".
 

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DATYdude said:
Well, if Cinelli can do it, so can I.
That is a high bar you set for yourself. :p
 

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gryfin said:
"Dr. Eyad Al Sarraj, director of the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, stated that Palestinian children have lost the sense of security and the sense of happiness. According to a study conducted by the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, 45% of children said that they had watched Israeli soldiers beat and insult their fathers in front of them. “The fact that Palestinian children take refuge in Palestinian organizations reflects their desire to gain a new strong identity that can protect them,” Al Sarraj added."

This is an explanation grounded in reality.
So adults are encouraging young children to take up weapons because the children feel unsafe? How the hell does that make sense (to everyone but you)? Those kids shows are targeted at pre-school aged kids and are meant to clearly create a set of morals where attacking Israeli civilians is justified.

The violent factions teach Palestinian kids to be violent simply to propagate their own power.


Despite your claims, you have yet to provide any evidence that these propagandist kids shows (or the Palestinian textbooks) are mistranslated. All of these videos are online as primary source documents. Why don't you step up and tell what the 'real' translations are. Meanwhile, all you are doing is pathetic justifications.
 

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gryfin said:
"Dr. Eyad Al Sarraj, director of the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, stated that Palestinian children have lost the sense of security and the sense of happiness. According to a study conducted by the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, 45% of children said that they had watched Israeli soldiers beat and insult their fathers in front of them. “The fact that Palestinian children take refuge in Palestinian organizations reflects their desire to gain a new strong identity that can protect them,” Al Sarraj added."

This is an explanation grounded in reality.
It seems that Israeli violence is invisible to those who are willfully blind.
 

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basketcase said:
As is reality to you.
Chew on this:

"According to a study conducted by the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, every Palestinian child has been exposed to over nine shocking events. The study added that 95.6% of children have seen images of the wounded and dead, and 95% have been affected by the sounds of explosions. The study further indicated that all children have been exposed to some kind of psychological shock whereby 60% of children have experienced moderate psychological shock, 6.7% have experienced minor psychological shock, while 33.3% have experienced major psychological shock. The study indicated that 15.6% suffer from minor post-traumatic disorder, 62.2% suffer moderately, while 20% suffer severely."
 

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treat people like animals and they will act like animals its that simple, the message that the rah rah Israel crowd doesnt seem to get through their thick skulls.
 

gryfin

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DATYdude said:
Doesn't make it right.

Teaching kids to hate is NOT "an identity that can protect them".
The teachers are Israeli soldiers carrying out the lesson plan devised by the Israeli government.

Those Palestinians just won't learn their lesson and cower.
 

basketcase

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just to help, I'll even post it again for you.

gryfin said:
Chew on this:

"According to a study conducted by the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, every Palestinian child has been exposed to over nine shocking events. The study added that 95.6% of children have seen images of the wounded and dead, and 95% have been affected by the sounds of explosions. The study further indicated that all children have been exposed to some kind of psychological shock whereby 60% of children have experienced moderate psychological shock, 6.7% have experienced minor psychological shock, while 33.3% have experienced major psychological shock. The study indicated that 15.6% suffer from minor post-traumatic disorder, 62.2% suffer moderately, while 20% suffer severely."
Now the real question is what does this have to do with anything?

Many Palestinian children are bombarded with adults who teach them killing Israelis is a good thing. Your repeated posting of the same report does not change or challenge anything.



I would also question their first stat
The study added that 95.6% of children have seen images of the wounded and dead
I where they have been exposed to all of these images. It's not like the Israeli army force children to look at them? Maybe if people are so concerned about exposure to violent images, they should stop subjecting their children to continual glorification of death.
 

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scouser1 said:
treat people like animals and they will act like animals its that simple, the message that the rah rah Israel crowd doesnt seem to get through their thick skulls.
Teaching their children about peaceful coexistence would have been a better way (and aren't you a teacher?). If children on both sides were taught about the importance of getting along, we wouldn't have had much violence for Gaza's children to see. Mainstream Israeli society has embraced this idea and it is included in their approved curriculum. You will not find Israeli children shows glorifying death and murder.



I would also like to see the Palestinian study that measures the effects of intra-Palestinian battles such as Hamas' violent takeover of Gaza. When will you be posting the study on the mental health of the children of Southern Israel who have been subjected to years of daily rocket attacks. I'm sure the numbers of Israeli children affected by explosions, psychological shock, or PTSD would be pretty similar.
 

basketcase

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here you go gryf.

Study: Most Sderot kids exhibit post-traumatic stress symptoms
By Mijal Grinberg and Eli Ashkenazi, Haaretz Correspondents

Between 75 percent and 94 percent of Sderot children aged 4-18 exhibit symptoms of post-traumatic stress, says Natal, the Israel Center for Victims of Terror and War.
You'll notice I also include sources. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/945489.html



Now, what does that say about violence being taught to children? How many children of Sderot are sitting at home, watching cartoons that tell them to kill Palestinians? I guess that sort of defeats the premis that you and scouser are putting forth.
 
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