It is time to overhaul the postal system, Mail delivery twice a week with pick up points for packages at drop off points in shopping centers. What say you?
Outdated Concept - we made it through Christmas without Canada Post.
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Why do we even need them? Are fedex, ups, DHL etc. not capable of picking up the slack? So remote communities will be affected, however there should be a practical solution here. Also it will encourage more digital forms of communication and data transfer and hopefully less of the actual junk mail.
I vote to completely faze them out.
No they are not, especially UPS. They fuck up on a regular basis and Canada Post has to cover for them. That's why they've thrived in the parcel business, dependable delivery at a cheaper price. It was one of the grievances in the latest bargaining.
If you prefer the higher cost of shipping, by all means.
yup, good idea. Like Canada Post or not they provide way better service than UPS and Fedex. UPS and Fedex don't even try to contact u if u live in a condo. Stick the notice on the window and run like hell. UPS and Fedex SUCK!!!!!
In my experience, I have to agree with people saying courier services aren’t reliable. I always choose to have things delivered via Canada Post if I have the option. Transit times seem to be reasonably comparable, and they usually leave the package with my concierge, so I don’t have to worry about waking up early and waiting around all day. Couriers, you never know. Sometimes they leave it with the concierge, sometimes they come up, sometimes they don’t do anything and just leave a notice downstairs.
Worst case scenario, if Canada Post does fuck up, my package goes to the depot two blocks away. Couriers? The depot is way the fuck out in Scarborough, or way down by the lakeshore where there’s no subway, or something. I also find Canada Post is better with their tracking info. I had a package with Fedex a few weeks back, they never bothered to update the tracking info, so my package came while I was out. I’d have stayed home if I knew it was coming that day.
Canada Post is just way more reliable and user friendly.
Worst case scenario, if Canada Post does fuck up, my package goes to the depot two blocks away. Couriers? The depot is way the fuck out in Scarborough, or way down by the lakeshore where there’s no subway, or something. I also find Canada Post is better with their tracking info. I had a package with Fedex a few weeks back, they never bothered to update the tracking info, so my package came while I was out. I’d have stayed home if I knew it was coming that day.
Canada Post is just way more reliable and user friendly.
All I need this service is for online shopping. Its annoying when canada posts leaves a sticky and now I need to leave my house and pick up the package from one of their locations and make sure its not a holiday or during non working hours. I find unusually other guys just leave a package in front of my door. When I get home I just pick it up and no more worries. I never had an item stolen and buy approximately 100 online items per year. I make sure all my statements are online so there is no mail I really need unless its from like Canada Revenue or jury duty which I don’t see why they can’t keep this form of communication optional as well. Its really annoying when I get crap in my mailbox every day delivered through Canada Post and many times its from the people who lived at this place 6+ years ago even though for years I keep putting RTS on their mail to return it.
At the end of the day I find mail generates a lot of waste and is not an efficient way to communicate and hurts the environment. I wish Canada Post would turn progressive and have a system where all the mail and shit like spam would automatically get scanned and you could open it via online service. Then have the ability to block certain senders so you don’t even need to physically deal with the mail. They could keep your mail in archive for say 1 year and delete/destroy it if you don’t save the mail. Also have the ability to create white lists such that the actual physical mail gets to your home such as a relative or government of canada. As for parcels maybe have a default delivery option such as leave in porch door and maybe provide some type of theft insurance package.
It feels like their system is regressive, they resist progress and don't keep up with the trends which in turn causes us a lot of time wasted and generates a lot of unnecessary waste.
At the end of the day I find mail generates a lot of waste and is not an efficient way to communicate and hurts the environment. I wish Canada Post would turn progressive and have a system where all the mail and shit like spam would automatically get scanned and you could open it via online service. Then have the ability to block certain senders so you don’t even need to physically deal with the mail. They could keep your mail in archive for say 1 year and delete/destroy it if you don’t save the mail. Also have the ability to create white lists such that the actual physical mail gets to your home such as a relative or government of canada. As for parcels maybe have a default delivery option such as leave in porch door and maybe provide some type of theft insurance package.
It feels like their system is regressive, they resist progress and don't keep up with the trends which in turn causes us a lot of time wasted and generates a lot of unnecessary waste.
I agree with all of that . I like Canada Post . Their shipping rates are a lot cheaper than the couriers and that's a plus for me . If I have a package that has to be signed for and I'm not home than I get a slip and go pick it up at the local postal place . No big deal for me . Many times if the package has to be signed for my postal lady will still drop off my package at the front door . I talk to her a lot so she knows me . She has told me a few horror stories about dropped off packages being stolen . She knows which areas she can do that and where she can't drop them off . Sure couriers maybe be faster but I'm not in need in receiving my package next day type of thing . As for tracking a package sure Canada is not reliable at times but neither are the couriers . I really don't care who delivers my packages as long as the delivery rate is low or the best thing is free shipping .
Items which are ordered from the States are never sent to my home . Some of the shipping costs are way too high . I get them sent to my US address and go pick them up . Most of the time I don't pay any taxes at the border even though I tell them the exact price of the goods that I'm bringing over . I'm not that far from the border so it's no big deal to go and pick them up .
If anyone ordered an item and needed that package for Christmas and didn't get it on time than that's your fault . Should have been smart enough to use a courier in stead of Canada Post with the labour problems .
Yes I get my mail delivered to my front door . None of this going to a box and picking it up every few days .
Now for having your mail person being fine in finding another job . I wonder what would you do if you lost your job and had a family to provide for . Not every one is able to replace a good paying job like maybe some of you are .
I agree they should only deliver to all the houses 2 or 3 x a week. They should concentrate more on parcels. Both management and the union are a bunch of idiots engaged in a pissing match. They should all be replaced and a new culture should be fostered based on co-operation .
I have news for you, the mail carrier already comes only one or on the rare occasion twice a week. I know, I have a doorbell camera with motion detector and can see everyone that comes down my front path. When I do get mail, it comes 5-10 pieces at a time. The mail carriers griped, piss and shit when they were given trucks to deliver packages a few years ago. They only wanted to carry deliver the mail and not deliver packages. Now the the mail volume has further reduced they want to deliver packages. In the interim private package delivery services have sprung up to take up the slack. The situation is changing and in a few years mail delivery volume will be even lower. The mail delivery system came first before the telephone system as methods of communications. The telephone system has developed to cell phones to change with the times and the telephone companies have diversified into other businesses. Mail delivery is out dated and the cost of this service will not be viable in the future. Eventually it will no longer be an essential service.
Actually, they are good at parcel delivery. It's what is keeping Canada Post alive. So what do you do if you are an employee? Thank God you have a job with benefits and wages higher than private enterprise? Of course not, you fuck yourself in the ass, and ruin the little bit of trust that the public has in your organization. Your union is living in the last century, and is so out of touch with reality, it's laughable.
Dr. Tongue yer a blast but you're wrong.
Canada Post letter carriers are making less than Fed Ex and UPS couriers and are required to do more. CUPW has led the way in health benefits that the courier companies have followed, those were hard fought gains. Canada Post management has defaulted on pension contributions on two occasions and the routes as currently structures is outdated.
I don't know if Bill Morneau pension reform bill has passed. Morneau Schepel controls the pension fund, he would make a killing.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3829285/morneau-shepell-pension-bill/
Canada Post letter carriers are making less than Fed Ex and UPS couriers and are required to do more. CUPW has led the way in health benefits that the courier companies have followed, those were hard fought gains. Canada Post management has defaulted on pension contributions on two occasions and the routes as currently structures is outdated.
I don't know if Bill Morneau pension reform bill has passed. Morneau Schepel controls the pension fund, he would make a killing.
https://globalnews.ca/news/3829285/morneau-shepell-pension-bill/
Well I've got news for you . My mail person delivers every day in my neighbourhood . Every single day . She also delivers packages while delivering the mail. At times I'll get a separate delivery if the package is of large size . I get my bills on-line but I also get my bills in the mail. The bills on-line come sooner than the paper bills but that's Ok with me . Don't anyone give me any grief about getting a paper bill and an on-line bill . That's the way I like it so that's what I do.
Mail delivery is not outdated . Not at all . I needed more death certificates and they were sent to me buy mail. Not a copy on a home printer . Many important items are sent by mail and an e-mail copy is not good enough for some things . Driving license is sent by mail. So are other things like Pass Ports , Outdoor Cards . The list goes on and on . If anyone thinks that mail delivery is outdated than throw out your mail and tell everyone to either e-mail you , call you on the phone or text you. Let's see how far you get with that .
Next time you wish to travel on a plane to another country you can always show a copy of your Pass Port on your phone at customs . Let's see how far you get with that .
How often do you need your passport updated? Once every 5 to 10 years. How about your drivers license? Its not often, and same with other documents. So have these sent via parcel or some type of secure transfer system. Why would you continue an outdated dying system. Thats like the titanic...it does not matter which part of the ship you are on, it will all sink.
I do feel bad for the workers though and you can tell their frustration is showing.
In the near future all these documents will be digital like your Apple Pay or Google pay where is uses your finger print or face to open these documents. This is more secure then carrying some archaic wallet with little plastic cards that can easily be misplaced, damaged and stolen. Like WTF why do we still need to have a wallet and supporting sinking ships.
Look at places like China pushing for digital versions of identification card...they know this is the future, more efficient, more secure and a progressive approach https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.scm...57/look-chinas-push-national-digital-id-cards
People same said about with blockbuster hello Netflix, people said the same thing about online shopping hello amazon and now majority are using this even though the same people made fun of me for doing it originally. Same will happen groceries, mail and identification. You all will feel silly when you start using these progressive methods and look back into the past and say to yourself can you believe we actually needed to wait in lines at jumbo video and get these things called cassettes and sometimes like had to place a hold on movies like omgawd
Maybe these new progressive methods will enable other jobs...people need to be flexible and willing to learn new things. Unions have fucked up people beyond repair #fubar although this change is inevitable. #resistanceisfutile
I do feel bad for the workers though and you can tell their frustration is showing.
In the near future all these documents will be digital like your Apple Pay or Google pay where is uses your finger print or face to open these documents. This is more secure then carrying some archaic wallet with little plastic cards that can easily be misplaced, damaged and stolen. Like WTF why do we still need to have a wallet and supporting sinking ships.
Look at places like China pushing for digital versions of identification card...they know this is the future, more efficient, more secure and a progressive approach https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.scm...57/look-chinas-push-national-digital-id-cards
People same said about with blockbuster hello Netflix, people said the same thing about online shopping hello amazon and now majority are using this even though the same people made fun of me for doing it originally. Same will happen groceries, mail and identification. You all will feel silly when you start using these progressive methods and look back into the past and say to yourself can you believe we actually needed to wait in lines at jumbo video and get these things called cassettes and sometimes like had to place a hold on movies like omgawd
Maybe these new progressive methods will enable other jobs...people need to be flexible and willing to learn new things. Unions have fucked up people beyond repair #fubar although this change is inevitable. #resistanceisfutile
Sorry but I still like Canada Post . I really don't care what China is doing . People complain about the junk that is sold by China in all of the stores yet we are supposed to do what they are doing . I don't mind carrying a wallet with all of my stuff . Maybe some day a lady would not have to carry a purse around with her with all of her identification in it . You think .
I don't like digital identification . I won't even get a Nexus Card because I want nothing to do with giving someone my finger prints nor an eye scan . I may seem backwards but that's how I feel . On-line shopping is OK but you still need brick and mortar stores to check out products that you may want. You buy a car , stove or a fridge on-line with out checking them out in a store first ? You still need stores to look at things even though many purchases made today are on-line . Yet some people think that brick and mortar stores are out dated .
Canada Post will always be here no matter how some people feel about them . Like I said , don't accept any mail delivery and see how things turn out . Canada Post will still deliver packages and always will . Just got 2 delivered today . Left at my front door with no problems at all . Why should I pay a courier more money for doing the same thing ?
Canada Post tried to stop home delivery . Many people complained about that . Why ??? Because people still get paper mail and not everyone has a fancy dancy phone to get their on-line mail. I for one don't have a fancy dancy phone nor am I willing to pay for one . Just a plain Jane phone that I get a few texts on and make a few calls on in case of an emergency . I don't have my face in a phone while I'm awake all day long like some people do.
Canada Post will always be here . Like it or not . No one says that you have to use them .
So what are you saying? I have the laziest mail carrier in Canada and you have the hardest working mail carrier? You may be right, that is if you are telling the truth and not a postie yourself trying to put a good light on a sinking situation.
BTW- Doing the same mail route 5 days a week and delivering little mail to some people and none to others is a government inefficiency at its worse.
As someone who has worked in logistics for years FEDEX is the only courier we use that is reliable. DHL is a fucking joke to us and we tell clients if they insist we use them they are responsible for shipping. Purolator has "Postie attitude".....UPS is better, but jesus when they fuck up it is huge.
Amazon is prepared to do without Canada Post and USPS. Amazon has it's own delivery service and only looking to expand into a shipping giant like UPS, DHL, etc.
incorrect headline, canadapost did deliver all through christmas, just slower and messier.
As for the courier companies, they are ridiculously expensive unless you have super high volume, and when they fuck up, which is often, you are S.O.L dealiging with it for hours and hours.
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