When I started this thread I had no Idea the conflict between us all I would start, I have read most of what you say and agree with some and disagree with others, some name calling going on also from those that oppose what we as a nation are doing, I still say, oil or no oil, money or no money, power or whatever the reasons people say this war is about there are still like I said from the beginning some nutbars who are going to get the bomb and use it. leave them alone and they will kill themselves off, BULLSHIT, they will blow up everything, maybe it would be o.k. if one went off over there then maybe China whose air will be nucked would stand up also and be counted, it's about time they realized it's their air and water that's gonna get screwed, maybe that's what's needed, If the Chinese tell them to backoff or else maybe our boys could come home and let that continent take care of itself