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Is this all Obama’s opponents can come up with? If so, he is doing well. Bowing is a Japanese thing, and not just to the emperor. I can’t believe that following a foreign custom, when in a foreign country, is even cause for controversy.
 

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Is this all Obama’s opponents can come up with? If so, he is doing well. Bowing is a Japanese thing, and not just to the emperor. I can’t believe that following a foreign custom, when in a foreign country, is even cause for controversy.
guess who'se the source of the issue, Fox News
 

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Is this all Obama’s opponents can come up with? If so, he is doing well. Bowing is a Japanese thing, and not just to the emperor. I can’t believe that following a foreign custom, when in a foreign country, is even cause for controversy.
No, thay also have that he is not born in the USA.

Frankly, as a somewhat conservative person, I am saddened by the bad
name the republicans give conservatives.
 

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guess who'se the source of the issue, Fox News
No surprise here, this is FAUX!

Nobody whines, carps, bellyaches, cries, rants, shrieks, better than our paranoid friends on the right, who can create/pull a bogeyman out of their collective arses at the drop of a cow-pie!
Growing 'turd blossoms' is their specialty....:p
 

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Is this all Obama’s opponents can come up with? If so, he is doing well. Bowing is a Japanese thing, and not just to the emperor. I can’t believe that following a foreign custom, when in a foreign country, is even cause for controversy.
The President of the United States does not bow to the Emperor of Japan any more than does the Queen.

Yes it is a significant diplomatic faux pas, yes it is causing a fair amount of mainstrean flap in the U.S.
 

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The President of the United States does not bow to the Emperor of Japan any more than does the Queen.

Yes it is a significant diplomatic faux pas, yes it is causing a fair amount of mainstrean flap in the U.S.
Was it as bad as Dubya holding hands and being led around by his nose, by Saudi OIL Shysters, Aardie?....:rolleyes:
 

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The President of the United States does not bow to the Emperor of Japan any more than does the Queen.

Yes it is a significant diplomatic faux pas, yes it is causing a fair amount of mainstrean flap in the U.S.
The dumbing down of the US is nearly complete.

In the midst of the worst economic crisis in almost a century, with the US in danger of
losing its economic leadership, and involved in two occupations far from home,
what the people are worried about is how to greet the emperor of Japan.
 

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Be really hard for him to bow, being that he is on his knees most of the time.
 

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The President of the United States does not bow to the Emperor of Japan any more than does the Queen.
Watch the parading of the flags at the Olympics. The U.S. is the only nation that does not dip its flag when passing the host country's head of state. I thought this tradition started in 1936 when the U.S. flag carrier was a Jewish American but, apparently, it started in 1908 at the London games when the U.S. was on its way to surpassing Great Britain as the most powerful nation on Earth.
 

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Is this all Obama’s opponents can come up with? If so, he is doing well.
A US President doesn't bow to the Japanese. Even the Japanese know this. The US President is considered higher than the Japanese Prime Minister and the Emperor (and his wife). Since the US President represents freedom for all, he should not bow to the male dominated society like Japan.

Bush Sr. puked in the JPM's lap, and that was a good move. In fact, the correct move. Clinton soon after clapped a +100% tariff on all Japanese imported cars and the Japanese were crying like Hello Kitty smack cats, and last minute Clinton stopped it. That's the only way to do business with the Japanese. You have to show them up with something they desperately want, which they can't have, or with something that shows one of their own insulting another one of their own using someone on the outside as a tool. They'll send in their absolute best, or your absolute top request, to get it. Otherwise, they won't care.

Gyaos Baltar (told with experience)
 

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The President of the United States does not bow to the Emperor of Japan any more than does the Queen.

Yes it is a significant diplomatic faux pas, yes it is causing a fair amount of mainstrean flap in the U.S.
Is there anywhere that this rule is actually stated or is it simply American perceptions of elitism?

If someone was visiting my house, I would expect them to follow my customs. I don't see why a leader should not do the same when making official visits whether it is bowing, kissing, or shaking.

Maybe if the US followed the same customs that all other world leaders follow the rest of the world would have a better opinion of the US.
 

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Is there anywhere that this rule is actually stated or is it simply American perceptions of elitism?

Don't know about bowing but the 29th Amendment to ths U.S. Constitution states: "The United States of America never dips its flag in front of a foreign leader." (Just kidding!:p)
 

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Here, here!!!

I see this as nothing more than the leader of one country showing respect to the leader of another. The conservative media needs to stop trying to make news to boost ratings.
As a US citizen I had grown tired of the 'Dont Mess With Texas' attitude of the previous admin.
You guys have got to be kidding. Even the Japanese press was embarrassed over this. Shows nothing but wimpish servitude. What the hell has Japan done for USA lately, that anyone would want to bow to them? Unbelievable.
 

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Is there anywhere that this rule is actually stated or is it simply American perceptions of elitism?
Since the Washington Administration U.S. Ministers and later Ambassadors presenting their credentials to Emperors, Kings, Sultans etc. . . have never bowed.

Being a dual - in the Commonwealth tradition we have always prided ourselves that although we give deference to the Sovereign we are not obsequent, hence the nod of the head men give, rather than a full blown bow.
 

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I remember when President Reagan met the Queen of England. He did not bow and was quoted as saying "The United States does not bow or curtsy to anyone".

Currently, President Obama has observed the customs of other nations as a way of showing respect when meeting foreign governments or heads of state, particularly in their countries.

This is regarded as one way in which his administration is extending an olive branch to the world.

In that context, I'm not sure if it's a faux pas anymore.
It sure as Hell is domestically in the U.S. and in terms of over two centuries of U.S. History as an independent state.

Yet another example of the President’s lack of experience.
 

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The dumbing down of the US is nearly complete.

In the midst of the worst economic crisis in almost a century, with the US in danger of
losing its economic leadership, and involved in two occupations far from home,
what the people are worried about is how to greet the emperor of Japan.
That may be "nice". However, What you consider important and what those in the U.S. consider important are two different things.
 
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