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And given that it was war-time, up or out did not apply, especially in a high-need area like surgeons.
True of course. However, between 1947 and the start of the Korean War it would have applied. I believe it applied across the U.S. Army officer corps although I'll admit I don't know for certain about Medical Corps Officers.
 

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Colonel Potter is a full bird or full colonel as opposed to Lt. Colonel Blake. Potter is one step higher, just below the rank of brigadier general. He is also the commander of the MASH medical unit and also a doctor and a surgeon. Medical personel are almost never promoted to genereral unless they are administrative, which means that they will work at headquarters making decisions but never working as an actual doctor or surgeon.

Corperal Klinger is the company clerk, which means that all orders and communications coming into the unit and all information going out of the unit goes through him. He is also in charge of procurement and dispersement which means that anything the camp needs he has to arrange with quartermater ( army supply unit ) it is then sent to the company clerk and he is then in charge of storing and dispersing the supplies and equipment when needed. He is in fact the equivelant of Seargeant Major of the unit. ( highest rank below lieutanant ) That would entittle him to his own quarters because he may have to attend to army affairs anytime during the day or night.

IMHO - It would have been much more realistic if the writers would have promoted Klinger when Radar left.

Another mistake was written into the last episode was Klinger married a Korean girl and the ceramony was preformed by Father Mulcahy. In the 1950s a Catholic priest was not allowed to preform a marriage if one person had been previously married.


BTW - Patrick Swayze was in an episode of MASH
So was John Ritter Alex Karras,Shelly from Cheers, Ron Howard,Blythe Danner,Leslie Neilson,to name a few
 
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Maybe it's just me, but that sounds stupid. Whoever came up with that idea should not have been promoted...
I liked Corporal-Captain !!!!!

"You boys do know this is an Officers Club?" "i DON'T LIKE,DON'T LIKE AT ALL!"
 
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My dad and uncle were both in Korea both wounded and ended up at a MASH
NOTHING like TV at all they said BUT they got the BEST CARE ANYWHERE to quote the show.
 

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Remember that this was a time of war, the number of tents, single or shared were limited.
Klinger having his own tent prior to becoming company clerk could have been as simple as having one private tent unocuppied, everyone fought over who should get it. None of the men wanted Klinger in their tents, due to his constant attempts to get kicked out by wearing dresses. So a solution was found by giving him his own.
The only mistakes in the show I could not explain somehow were ones of script. In the first few episodes on season one, we see Radar drinking Lt-Colonel Blake's private stash of bourbons, whiskeys, etc, whereas in all the later episodes he only ever drinks his grape Ni'hi's, claiming he doesn't drink, and has almost never tried alcohol before.

Spankingman; :p one of my favorite episodes!
 

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1) Because a Colonel in the Marines is equivalent to a Captain in the Navy (but a Captain in the marines is lower than a Captain in the Navy). He'd have to rank a few steps higher before becoming a full fledged General, including a Lt. General (which is simply called General for simplicity). He'd have to do a lot of counter-intelligence too.

2) Because a Corporal is the highest rank in the order above a Lance Corporal, and therefore an NCO. Since this was commissioned combat, he gets a tent (or shared one).

3) This is television. Writers with no military backgrounds make mistakes now and then as M*A*S*H is The Army and not The Marines.

Gyaos Baltar.
Wow, there's a lot of stuff wrong here.

1. Its an Army hospital, and the staff are in the army with army ranks. A lot of counter-intelligence? WTF are you on about. He's a surgeon - Potter has gone as high as he's going to get.

2. just plain wrong. It was a plot device to give Klinger lots of closet space.

3. Apparently forum posters make mistakes too.
 

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The only mistakes in the show I could not explain somehow were ones of script. In the first few episodes on season one, we see Radar drinking Lt-Colonel Blake's private stash of bourbons, whiskeys, etc, whereas in all the later episodes he only ever drinks his grape Ni'hi's, claiming he doesn't drink, and has almost never tried alcohol before.
I liked Radar before he found the teddy bear.

Anyway, that episode where he's drinking the colonel's drinks (scotch?) had a pretty funny exchange when the visiting general caught Radar in the colonel's office. I can't quote it exactly, but it was something like this:

General: Doesn't the colonel mind you drinking his scotch and smoking his cigars?

Radar: Yes sir, very much so, sir.

General: Then why are you doing it?

Radar: Well, I don't mind, and I figured as long as one of us was reasonable.

(Yeah, I know... I've seen the MASH reruns far too many times). :D
 

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I liked Radar before he found the teddy bear.

Anyway, that episode where he's drinking the colonel's drinks (scotch?) had a pretty funny exchange when the visiting general caught Radar in the colonel's office. I can't quote it exactly, but it was something like this:

General: Doesn't the colonel mind you drinking his scotch and smoking his cigars?

Radar: Yes sir, very much so, sir.

General: Then why are you doing it?

Radar: Well, I don't mind, and I figured as long as one of us was reasonable.

(Yeah, I know... I've seen the MASH reruns far too many times). :D
Perfect quote. And that isn't the only episode he drinks in, he does in the third episode as well.
I just started rewatching MASH the night before this thread was started. I love the series.
 

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Wow, there's a lot of stuff wrong here.

1. Its an Army hospital, and the staff are in the army with army ranks. A lot of counter-intelligence? WTF are you on about. He's a surgeon - Potter has gone as high as he's going to get.

2. just plain wrong. It was a plot device to give Klinger lots of closet space.

3. Apparently forum posters make mistakes too.
Dude, you are just totally incorrect. Apparently, s_licker doesn't know American military protocol in combat. No matter how you cut it, it doesn't change.
I suggest you get off M*A*S*H and get with "A Few Good Men" and a code red. :p

Gyaos Baltar.
 

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1. Potter always talked about enlisting as an underage a 15 year old in the Great War. The US didn't enter WWI until 1918 which makes him born about 1903. The Korean War ended in 1953 & Potter stated in his first episodes that he had 1 year left before retirement. That makes him about 49 yrs old in the series. However, Harry Morgan looked about 75 when he started playing Potter. What casting.
(This doesn't really answer the OP's question, but is my stupid point on the subject.)

2. Klinger played a transvestite which in the 1950s was quite taboo. Who would want to share a tent with a tranny? Even today, no one wants to share a tent with a tranny. That's just the way it is.

PS. Col. Flagg is the #1 character on that show.
My dad who was in both WW II and Korea said many people who were older or close to retirement age etc BUT who could still function in their respective fields ie Doctors Dentists Nurses etc were signed up.The younger ones were usually at the FRONT or close while the older ones were kept back ala Tokyo etc. This was due to a manpower shortage of Dr.s in the Regular Military at the time.
 

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Radar: "Can I get you a scotch, sir?"

General: "Yes"

Radar (after hading the General the drink): "I ran out of ice, so I used bourbon."
 

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I liked Radar before he found the teddy bear.

Anyway, that episode where he's drinking the colonel's drinks (scotch?) had a pretty funny exchange when the visiting general caught Radar in the colonel's office. I can't quote it exactly, but it was something like this:

General: Doesn't the colonel mind you drinking his scotch and smoking his cigars?

Radar: Yes sir, very much so, sir.

General: Then why are you doing it?

Radar: Well, I don't mind, and I figured as long as one of us was reasonable.

(Yeah, I know... I've seen the MASH reruns far too many times). :D

I remember an episode when Hotlips was talking about her dad being dead but another episode has him HOWITZER AL HOULIHAN alive and well.
 

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If you think about it Lt.Col Blake and Col. Potter could have both busted Burns and Hotilps for Conduct Unbecoming an Officer for their affair,knowing that Burns was a married man.

The show was AND still is GREAT although I NEVER liked the movie. Though the more I watch it it was obvious ALDA was the main reason it flourished .He was a scene stealer though. Wonder if Stevenson,Rogers,Burghoff,Linville kicked their ass for leaving so soon.

Radar-Gary IS a musician,a decent drummer in real life too.He did a great little drum solo in one of the episodes as far as a bugler of which I am I recal lPotter saying "My horse can bugle better than Radar" when Radar got made a 2nd Lt. by error.

I liked Hotlips better when she "softened up" a few years into the show.She had a great body great ASS to boot. Hard to belive she's in her 70's now!!!I think the khaki pants were painted on her.The rest of the girls wore baggier versions.
 

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Also, how come Hunnycut, Pierce and Macintyre were captains and Burns and Winchester were Majors? They were all equally educated and qualified as surgeons with equally zero military experience prior to their appointments.

They were older and more"experienced" well
 
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I remember an episode when Hotlips was talking about her dad being dead but another episode has him HOWITZER AL HOULIHAN alive and well.
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in the pilot episode Hawkeye talks about his parents in a way that suggests they are both alive.

Somewhere later on in the series, the story is changed and his father is a long-time widower.

By the way, I love the movie. I prefer the movie over the television series, in fact.
 

spankingman

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I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure in the pilot episode Hawkeye talks about his parents in a way that suggests they are both alive.

Somewhere later on in the series, the story is changed and his father is a long-time widower.

By the way, I love the movie. I prefer the movie over the television series, in fact.
The only parts of the movie I liked was the FOOTBALL GAME and HOTLIPS shower scene

"69 IS DIVINE 69 IS DIVINE!!!!!!!"
 

spankingman

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Who is the voice on the PA system when it isn't Radar?

I have always wondered about that but if you listen carefully is sounds a lot like the guy whos plays IGOR Jeff Maxwell in real life. Funny thing Maxwell and Roy Goldman bit part actors on the show used their real names!

Anyone recall the first Fr. Mulcahy later replaced by Bill Christopher.?
 
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