Ok to remove the snows tomorrow?

blackrock13

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I already did Friday and my tire guy told me I was his first of the season, but he was ready for the stampede this week.
 

james t kirk

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I usually wait till April or so.

I figure if I change them now, we'll get a foot.
 

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Seems a bit early, but this week is gonna be in the teens!!!

Now you've done it. Expect a major snow storm before the end of the month.
 

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Why would anyone put them on in the first place? I usually do but not this year. I was waiting for a sustainable snow dump which we never got at all this year.
 

nottyboi

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Why would anyone put them on in the first place? I usually do but not this year. I was waiting for a sustainable snow dump which we never got at all this year.
They also make a big difference in wet traction in cold conditions I don't regret putting them on this year at all
 

blackrock13

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Why would anyone put them on in the first place? I usually do but not this year. I was waiting for a sustainable snow dump which we never got at all this year.
It's not just in snow, but the winter tires do a better job as the temperature drops below 7c where all season start losing their traction.
 

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Since putting on snows, takes an equivalent amt of wear off the all-season, it didn't hurt. and there were a couple days with a little snow anyway in toronto. but the forecast for the rest of march is warm. time to get them off. reduce the noise, increase gas mileage and improve the look.
 

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Putting good rubbers on your car is like putting good rubbers on your dick, it can prevent something really unpleasant and expensive from happening. March is when cold and warm air mixes and you get large and sudden snow dumps. You are safer to change them in the last week of March or the first week of April.
 

fun-guy

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I just spoke to my mechanic and he said you guys are full of it, lmao. He's been my mechanic for over 20 yrs and never steered me wrong.
 

blackrock13

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I just spoke to my mechanic and he said you guys are full of it, lmao. He's been my mechanic for over 20 yrs and never steered me wrong.
Full of it about what, winter tires?

He's probably a great mechanic, but he doesn't know what he's talking about with tires. I have a similar record and relationship with my mechanic, but he's the first to admit his knowledge about tires is limited. Similar to asking your appliance guy about lawnmowers.
 

fun-guy

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My comments are directed at snow tires, the title of this thread, not winter tires. I thought the OP was talking about those chunky rubber tires that provide better traction on snow, not better grip on pavement in cold weather.
 

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unless snow tires are working in snow.....they don't do very well on dry pavement, hot nor cold..Braking is compromised, acceleration is compromised, as is cornering traction on the dry.
 

blackrock13

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unless snow tires are working in snow.....they don`t do very well on dry pavement, hot nor cold..Braking is compromised, acceleration is compromised, as is cornering traction on the dry.
Nonsense. We should take your word over these people?

These guys are wrong; https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?375276-Ok-to-remove-the-snows-tomorrow

1) Winter tyres are NOT SNOW TYRES

One of the most common reasons we hear as to why winter tyres aren`t needed in the UK is because we don`t get enough snow. Winter tyres are designed to be more effective than regular tyres in any temperature under 7c (44f) on any type of road. Cold weather tyres are designed with a larger percentage of natural rubber and silica in the compound which doesn`t harden up as much as synthetic rubber in cold conditions.

http://bridgestonecanadianwinterdri...1/02/why-winter-tires-there-are-many-reasons/

This is the time of year when the same discussion is heard in many offices, coffee shops and homes: should I put winter tires on my vehicle?The answer is a definitive and resounding “Yes,” if you want maximum safety. Whatever you have on your car, high performance summer tires or all-season tires, you will not get maximum grip on cold mornings unless you are on winter tires. All tires have a temperature range they like to work in to give you their best performance. Summer tires like it hot, all-season tires like all things moderate and, of course, winter tires like it cold.

No big surprises there. What may surprise some drivers, however, is that all these different types of tires all have somewhat equal grip when the temperature is 7 degrees C or above. Above that magic number, the summer tire develops grip on a steep curve as temperatures climb; the all-season tire less so.
As temperatures drop below 7 C, however, the winter tire develops more grip, the all-season tire loses grip and the summer tire is just about useless.

From; http://autos.winnipegfreepress.com/news-article/id-4423/

Nokian makes some excellent winter tires that can be studded. I still prefer winter tires designed for ice and snow over studded tires for a few reasons. First, there are many parts of the country where studded tires are banned except during specific winter months. This means you may not be able to change your tires even though the temperatures are not suitable for summer or all-season tires. The tire manufacturers suggest switching to winter tires when temperatures are below 7 C. The more flexible rubber in the winter tire tread will grip better on cold pavement, but you may not be able to legally use the studded tires yet. Studded tires are noisy. This may not be a serious problem for you, but I find the noise when driving on dry pavement annoying. Finally, studs work great when ice is softer. When temperatures drop below about -30C, the ice is much harder and the studs don`t grip as well. The rubber tread on winter specific tires will still perform well at cold temperatures.

Jim Kerr is an experienced mechanic, instructor and member of the Automobile Journalists` Association of Canada.

From; http://www.pirelli.com/tyre/ww/en/car/genericContent/winter_collection

Not just when it snows

“I only use it in town anyway”, “This year it won’t snow much”. “I drive slowly”…
These are the most common excuses for not fitting winter tyres.
Very few people know that, at a temperature of 7°C or below, even the best summer tyres gradually lose their road holding capabilities, compromising stability and braking performance.

Winter tyres should be fitted in autumn for confident driving in all weather conditions, without the need to fit chains.
Formulated with specific compounds that are ideal for use in low temperatures, they have a specific tread pattern which helps reduce the risk of aquaplaning.
This gives traction and safety, even on snow, and enables notably shorter braking distances: -10% in rain at low temperatures and -20% on snow compared with summer tyres.

Italian drivers and insiders call them “thermal tyres”, or “snow tyres”.
In english they are simply “winter tyres”.
They are easily recognisable with the initials M+S (Mud & Snow) plus a symbol of a mountain with a snowflake on the sidewall.


Only a few references, all saying the same thing, your full of shite.
 

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Simple rule: Thanksgiving to Easter.

Those are target dates but when the calendar's in that neighborhood, good time to think about wearing winters.

Easter to Thanksgiving:

Pool season ... oh, and don't forget to switch to summer tires.
 

blackrock13

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Simple rule: Thanksgiving to Easter.

Those are target dates but when the calendar's in that neighborhood, good time to think about wearing winters.

Easter to Thanksgiving:

Pool season ... oh, and don't forget to switch to summer tires.
For TO that's not a bad guide, but don't the holiday move around the calender some.
 

nottyboi

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Simple rule: Thanksgiving to Easter.

Those are target dates but when the calendar's in that neighborhood, good time to think about wearing winters.

Easter to Thanksgiving:

Pool season ... oh, and don't forget to switch to summer tires.
For Toronto that is a bit early and late IMHO. Especially this year. The same thing that makes winters work well under 7 degrees makes them wear fast in warmer temps on dry pavement. I did take them off today.. maybe a bit early... but fingers crossed.
 
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