Oh illicit drugs are harmless.

simon482

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Clearly you have never taken LSD or even inquired into how it works

Besides, what is the point of complaining about illicit drugs when legal drugs are just as harmful, and are being promoted and profited from by those same people who keep illicit drugs off the shelves.
one of the best high's i ever had was fentanyl, i used to have a hospital connection and my fucking god did he get me some good shit.
 

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Random phone call today that is sort of related to this thread

I am an SP that works in the KW area. I post my ads occasionally to CL, as most girls do. Today I got a call and the guy said right away he was not interested in my services. He wanted to know if I had any friends interested in 'pharmaceuticals'. I knew what he meant and said I've only ever been asked about Oxycontin. He immediately got defensive and said 'whoa whoa, lets not mention the real names over the phone, use the slang'. I don't know much other than kush for weed, and he said oxys are "green monster". So I then asked why he was calling ppl to be a dealer.....seems a little ass backwards. It was honestly one of the most disturbing phone calls I've got over the years. He thinks just because I am in the biz, that I must know lots of drugs users. I told him to watch it and by doing these cold calls, going to piss the wrong girl off and she's going to report him.
He didn't block the number or anything. Prick.
 

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Today I got a call and the guy ... wanted to know if I had any friends interested in 'pharmaceuticals'.
The good thing about a career in drug trafficking is that you obviously don't need a university education to get into the business. This guy probably won't have a long and distinguished career.
 

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The police only shot him after he killed the baby? I think once a guy picks up a shotgun and points it at a baby, there should be no more negotiating. Take him down with extreme prejudice! :(
 

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Tougher gun laws would have saved the 3 month old's life, but the freedom to have an unlocked loaded shotgun around the house trumps his life in the USA.
Tougher gun law probably would not have saved the child's life. This idiot was buying and using illegal drugs. Do you really think that he would have followed any gun law?

You do not need a law to know that guns should NEVER be stored loaded. And you do not need a law to tell you to NEVER point a gun at something you do not mean to kill.

While not all drugs are dangerous, there are certainly more than enough evidence that drugs certainly are dangerous to a percentage of the population. Whether it is some kid that gets hi on acid and thinks he can fly, to the investment banker that ODs on coke and bursts his heart, to the Rave goer that forgets to drink enough water and dies high. Or the creep that does meth and confronts the cops.

Sure, there are lots of people that can get by using recreational drugs. But some can't.
 

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Not true, they keep many people from buying a gun.

Registering a car is seen as normal and useful, why not a gun?
Bzzzzt. Fail on the logic.

Gun laws do not stop anyone from buying a gun. Just ask anyone who has been shot in Toronto in the past 5 years. The shooters did not have legal weapons, they did not have a license and they certainly did not follow our national gun laws.

As for the long gun registry, the difference between guns and cars is that the government is not going to come by and take your car from you. The Australian government is a prime example of why many legal gun owners don't want a registry here.

I certainly agree that individuals should be trained on the responsible use and storage of a firearm. And that you should need to be licensed to purchase and possess firearms and ammunition.

But laws are only suggestions to individuals.
 

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Compromised, as I've posted earlier in this thread the fact that one can break a law is not a reason not to have a law. The law simply allows punishment of someone who has and/or uses an illegal gun. Hopefully the liklihood and severity of the incarceration will be sufficient to deter people from breaking the law, thus protecting society.

I expect that we agree that guns should be kept out of the hands of nut cases. Can you suggest another way of doing this?
 

themexi

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Compromised, as I've posted earlier in this thread the fact that one can break a law is not a reason not to have a law.
Makes sense to a point.

The law simply allows punishment of someone who has and/or uses an illegal gun.
2 points...

If there wasn't a law prohibiting it... they would NOT be in possesion of an illegal gun

There already ARE laws that allow punishment for someone that uses an gun impropery....
Murder
assault
robbery
disturbing the peace & disorderly conduct...

etcetcetc


Hopefully the liklihood and severity of the incarceration will be sufficient to deter people from breaking the law, thus protecting society.
That never has worked... isn't working now & it Never will.

Most of the criminals that do the type of shit that make us want to react with gun laws wouldnt be deterred in the slightest... They simply don't think of the law at the time or simply dont care... you know... criminals? So the law would do NOTHING...

But tough laws DO make a lot of criminals commit more severe offenses to avoid punishment...

3 strikes law in Cali has led to many many situations where a criminal killed someone because they just couldnt take the chance of the crime being their 3rd strike....


I expect that we agree that guns should be kept out of the hands of nut cases. Can you suggest another way of doing this?
Sadly... we pretty much have 2 choices.... extreme gun laws... or pretty much nothing...

Extreme gun laws only serve to limit freedoms of the decent & law abiding & doesn't do much except provide a false sense of security... Criminals are a LOT bolder when the KNOW their prey is unarmed...

Doing nothing likely wont yeild much of a difference in crimes... Maybe a few more but taking into account the loss of freedom & INCREASE in risk to the law abiding It is best to leave well enough alone.
 

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Gun laws do not stop anyone from buying a gun. Just ask anyone who has been shot in Toronto in the past 5 years.
This is the type of messed up logic that makes this topic such a mess in the media.

Gun laws DO stop people from buying guns. Do they stop EVERY criminal who really wants one from getting his (or her) hands on a weapon? No. However, proper gun control does reduce (significantly) the number of casual gun owners which means that they don't have the option of getting high and shooting their children.

Of course gun control is not a perfect and complete solution. However, it is a part of the overall best practice. after all, no one living in the city NEEDS to have a firearm for personal use; full stop. I don't see any downside to making a gun, which is far more deadly than a joint, at least as illegal.

Some will argue that marijuana is still widely available despite it's illegal status. This may be true, but there are still many who don't get it because it's a crime but would buy it if it was available a local retailer (as guns are in many US states). Plus, I'd suggest enforcing gun laws in ways we've stopped enforcing weed laws.
 

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Pretty much a given since where I am grounds for 99.999 automatic denial of both Law and Medical Licenses.

Oh, of course I've never known anyone who had a flashback. <deep sarcasm smilie>.
Still could have tried peyote (legal in Amsterdam), which is similar in effect to LSD. So these excuses do not convince me.

And the effect of a drug is not called flashback )
 

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Pretty much a given since where I am grounds for 99.999 automatic denial of both Law and Medical Licenses.

Oh, of course I've never known anyone who had a flashback. <deep sarcasm smilie>.
Amounts to using a parking ticket to deny professional accreditation because you blame cars for drunk driving.
 

afterhours

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If you do not know about LSD fashbacks, may I suggest that you do not know as much about LSD and its effects as you believe you do.
flashback is just that, a flashback, it's not the actual high
 

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DUDE i want a gun I can have it by the EOD
You are such an idiot. The only reason it is easy to get illegal guns is the because the US is awash in legal guns. Go and try and buy an illegal gun in Singapore.. let us know how you make out with your 20 year sentence and flogging.
 
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