Offending and taking offence

The journalist says: "We would have previously called (being sensitive to others) manners."

I completely agree.

Pretty much every time I hear someone complaining about "the sorry state of free speech" it's coming out of the mouth of some prick who simply wants to validate himself for being a prick. This is the case, without exception, in my experience.

Such as Jordan Peterson.

I would classify Peterson as just another ageing, middle-class, heterosexual, white male who's pissed off at the world because ageing, heterosexual, middle-class, white males (of which I am one) are not the centre of the universe anymore.

Personally, I don't even think he's even particularly smart. Case in point, a few years back he was diagnosed with a severe autoimmune disorder. Did he take doctors' advice? Nope. He turned to a quackery and changed his diet, only eating beef.

Like all quack practices, of course, this did nothing, and he began developing severe depression from his illness. He then started taking benzodiazepines and became addicted. Did he check himself into an addiction centre in Toronto? Nope. He went to Russia and had himself put into a coma, for fuck's sake.

Last we've heard anything from Peterson he was in Serbia for some type of "treatment" and contracted COVID-19.

Only a matter of time before Darwinism catches up to Jordan Peterson.

But, perhaps, Peterson would, ironically, approve of me using my "free speech" to be a prick to him.
 
The journalist says: "We would have previously called (being sensitive to others) manners."

I completely agree.

Pretty much every time I hear someone complaining about "the sorry state of free speech" it's coming out of the mouth of some prick who simply wants to validate himself for being a prick. This is the case, without exception, in my experience.

Such as Jordan Peterson.

I would classify Peterson as just another ageing, middle-class, heterosexual, white male who's pissed off at the world because ageing, heterosexual, middle-class, white males (of which I am one) are not the centre of the universe anymore.

Personally, I don't even think he's even particularly smart. Case in point, a few years back he was diagnosed with a severe autoimmune disorder. Did he take doctors' advice? Nope. He turned to a quackery and changed his diet, only eating beef.

Like all quack practices, of course, this did nothing, and he began developing severe depression from his illness. He then started taking benzodiazepines and became addicted. Did he check himself into an addiction centre in Toronto? Nope. He went to Russia and had himself put into a coma, for fuck's sake.

Last we've heard anything from Peterson he was in Serbia for some type of "treatment" and contracted COVID-19.

Only a matter of time before Darwinism catches up to Jordan Peterson.

But, perhaps, Peterson would, ironically, approve of me using my "free speech" to be a prick to him.
I agree, Peterson's whole persona was of some life guru and being accountable. Yet for the past 4 years he has been addicted to Benzos.
 
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Get to much into manners and you can become quite touchy. Some people (including some on this board) are offended by other people just because they failed to be born white and/or Christian.

On the other hand, slinging barbs at silly assholes is part and parcel of afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted....
 
Thanks for sharing the two videos. Interesting and important topic to discuss. Canada is a country full of diversity and we need to know how to listen to each other and present our points of view. Then, someone has to make a decision and we all need to abide by that decision. That is until our next election, an opportunity to present arguments, and a possible change to regulations.
 
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Why do you feel the need to attack Peterson's character? He has flaws, we all do. That doesn't mean he should be dismissed.
He's a public figure. Everything he says will be scrutinized. It's one thing to comment under a cover of anonymity and another to stand by one's beliefs in front of everyone. His firm stance of sensitive topics is quite admirable.
Dozens of media companies invite him for interviews because they see value in it.

Do you disagree with his views on Free Speech?
 
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Why do you feel the need to attack Peterson's character? He has flaws, we all do. That doesn't mean he should be dismissed.
He's a public figure. Everything he says will be scrutinized. It's one thing to comment under a cover of anonymity and another to stand by one's beliefs in front of everyone. His firm stance of sensitive topics is quite admirable.
Dozens of media companies invite him for interviews because they see value in it.

Do you disagree with his views on Free Speech?

I agree with his views.
 
But, perhaps, Peterson would, ironically, approve of me using my "free speech" to be a prick to him.

No. He really doesn't handle criticism well.
He sued his university for criticizing him, didn't he? Did he ever sue that writer from Vox or was he just threatening to?
There was that list of university professors who were teaching things he disapproved of that he tried to crowdfund, too, wasn't there?
 
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Cathy Newman didn't mind offending him. If she was allowed to claw at him, she would. Was putting words in his mouth at every turn. He survived and came out on top.

Jordan Peterson gets attacked from every angle. If you were in his shoes, your eyes would be twitching by now.

 
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Why do you feel the need to attack Peterson's character? He has flaws, we all do. That doesn't mean he should be dismissed.
He's a public figure. Everything he says will be scrutinized. It's one thing to comment under a cover of anonymity and another to stand by one's beliefs in front of everyone. His firm stance of sensitive topics is quite admirable.
Dozens of media companies invite him for interviews because they see value in it.

Do you disagree with his views on Free Speech?
Why attack the man and not his views? That's how we "debate" these days. Cancel, suppress, ridicule, censor, demonize, often lie. A lot of people are genuinely threatened by a different pov. I don't agree with everything that he says, but he is a scholar of record, a real influencer and the Canadian top selling author.
 
Jordan Peterson gets attacked from every angle. If you were in his shoes, your eyes would be twitching by now.

It's how he makes his money. Like he himself said, he found a way to monetize outrage.
He provokes people, then raises money against their reactions.
It's a good scam.