Obese Longevity

Ceiling Cat said:
You may not be Japanese, but you can simulate eating sushi by licking PUZZY!:D

puzzy? is that like a combo between pussy and pizza? lol....
 
ahahooper said:
no I completely agree with. I should have been more clear. I was only referring to cycleguys query of living longer. all I was saying is How long you live has a genetic component. Obesity itself has almost no genetic component as per your argument.

How do you figure that? It's not just about what you eat, it's about what you burn as well. Some people can eat anything and burn it off because they have fast metabolisms (25% of the population); 50% who have to watch what they eat and exercise, particularly as they age, as they can gain weight, and the other 25% that have to really limit their calories and/or exercise a lot to keep from becoming obese.

To say there is no genetic component when it has been identified as a risk factor is just wrong. Google it yourselves. I recently read an article where they've identified a gene in rats when activated turns those rats obese on the same calorie diet versus control.

It's all genetics, combined with environment and lifestyle. If you have bad genes for cholesterol, no matter what you eat or how you exercise, you'll still have high cholesterol. We've all heard about the marathon runners dying of heart attacks in their 50's. Conversely good genes lead to longevity and less risk for the common killers.
 
blackrock13 said:
Careful it might catch on. Can you get take out?

toss on some anchovies and put some cheese on a pussy and could you tell the difference?

(oh I'm going to pay for that lol)
 
I remember that first set of reports that talked about the obesity gene and then a few follow ups that said beware of totally linking genes to obesity. Just because we have a genetic predisposition to any thing doesn't mean we're going to get it. you just have to be aware of the possibilities. Just like we all have cells that have the potential to be cancerous doen't mean we're all going to get cancer.
 
I read that burning more than 3-4 thousand calories per week doing exercise can actually be harmful in terms of longevity (I think the book was "you- living longer")
 
I think what the Japanese and Canadian studies mean is that gentlemen north of 40 (years old) should not obsess over a few extra pounds/kilos.:) Inches yes but not pounds.
 
Hangman said:
This sounds like the Fat Lobby trying to impose their horrible ideas of 'acceptable' body size on society.

The Fat Lobby? You are a moron....:mad:

Here we go again, a proponent of the last "acceptable *ism" in society today.....size-ism.

If you said that about any other group, you'd be considered a racist, a misogynist, etc, etc.
 
blackrock13 said:
I remember that first set of reports that talked about the obesity gene and then a few follow ups that said beware of totally linking genes to obesity. Just because we have a genetic predisposition to any thing doesn't mean we're going to get it. you just have to be aware of the possibilities. Just like we all have cells that have the potential to be cancerous doen't mean we're all going to get cancer.


Agreed, for the most part, but I think for some people there are a combination of genes that make it more like having blue eyes versus brown: the deck is just stacked too much against them for them to have a real chance at being slim.
 
moresex4me said:
Agreed, for the most part, but I think for some people there are a combination of genes that make it more like having blue eyes versus brown: the deck is just stacked too much against them for them to have a real chance at being slim.

I can see that. The bored gene hangs with the munchies gene and it's close friend another-jug-please gene, followed soon after by the screw-off-you-do-it gene, followed up by the I feel tired, I feel sick, I feel nothing trifecta.

CRASH!!!!