Heard on the radio this morning that there is a study in Japan which indicates slightly obese men live 7 years longer than skinny men who ride their bikes everyday (weather permitting). Damn, I'm not Japanese.
Obese Longevity
- Thread starter Rockslinger
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It's true. Having added weight helps you survive. That being said, obesity is a little different than being overweight...
Keebler Elf said:
I'm going to try and find more info on that study. Maybe I'll call 680 News. I'm not obese or overweight (yet) but I find the pounds tend to stick around
as one gets older. Also, aren't Japanese men generally on the slim side?Rockslinger said:I'm going to try and find more info on that study. Maybe I'll call 680 News. I'm not obese or overweight (yet) but I find the pounds tend to stick around
not anymore than italian men are on the chunky side...dude, that is so ....ahem...race generalizing lol.....
In every society (especially americans) a little pot belly has been indicative of wealth. This stems from the olden times when food production was scarce. A pot belly indicated wealth.
A few extra pounds (5 or 10) isn't that bad for you because in fact, you do have energy stores for times when you may have to skip a meal etc. But carrying an extra 40 or 50 leads to all kinds of health problems such as: high blood pressure, diabetes, hardening of the arteries, high cholesteral, breathing disorders etc.
As for the comparison to those who bike a lot, one thing that they should make note of: when you bicycle in an urban centre with LOTS of motor vehicles, your breath rate due to the exercise forces you to inhale x times more pollutants than simply walking. There was a study done around Yonge and Eglinton back in the 80's because there were so many office types jogging on their lunch hour. It was determined that jogging for an hour in the core at noon, or during rush hours, put the equivolent amount of toxins as if you smoked 2 packs of cigarettes......(in that hour)......
This sounds like the Fat Lobby trying to impose their horrible ideas of 'acceptable' body size on society.
Here's a more detailed article http://www.physorg.com/news164519566.htmlRockslinger said:I'm going to try and find more info on that study. Maybe I'll call 680 News. I'm not obese or overweight (yet) but I find the pounds tend to stick around
I couldn't (easily) find a link to the actual study.
cancowboy2001 said:
Thanks guy, this is it. This is an interesting study. Do you guys north of 30, 40, etc. find it harder and harder to shed the pounds? Now you don't have to
.Cycleguy007
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I have no idea if I will live longer than the next guy... No one does... I may get hit by a truck while riding my bike... Studies like this are such BS IMHO.
Having said that, both my grand-fathers were in very good health well into their 90's and my father will be 78 in a couple weeks so maybe longevity is also hereditary to some degree as well...
I feel great, have been told I look great and haven't been sick in years so I must be doing something right. Whatever "fate" has in store for me is anyone's guess, so in the mean time I will continue to do what I'm doing... eat right, exercise daily and live life to the fullest!
Having said that, both my grand-fathers were in very good health well into their 90's and my father will be 78 in a couple weeks so maybe longevity is also hereditary to some degree as well...
I feel great, have been told I look great and haven't been sick in years so I must be doing something right. Whatever "fate" has in store for me is anyone's guess, so in the mean time I will continue to do what I'm doing... eat right, exercise daily and live life to the fullest!
ahahooper said:
Sorry, it really simple science. You take in more food than you burn off you get fat. Yes I know they're big boned, have glandular problems, it's in the genes.
I've seen way too many large-sized 'families' with fridges and cupboards full of 2-litre pops, chips, large jars of mayo and the like. Now having said that, the food you get served in most 'formula' restaurants doesn't help either. Aside from the fact that Big Macs taste like shit, they have less fat and salt in small combo than in a lot of food platters at Kelsey's, Millstone, Arizona's and the like. You get in real trouble when you 'jumbo up' 6 times a month.
Even some of the stuff at M&Ms have hordes of salt and questionable amounts of fat.
Sorry again, you take in more than you burn, you get bigger.
Someone in my family was told to lose 90 lbs or die. He did and lived much longer and more active (read happier).
blackrock13 said:
no I completely agree with. I should have been more clear. I was only referring to cycleguys query of living longer. all I was saying is How long you live has a genetic component. Obesity itself has almost no genetic component as per your argument.
thewalker said:
how to you do what it feels like to smoke two packs of cigarettes? Besides that, do you know what it feels like to inhale ozone? Carbon monoxide? I guess you do because you do it often/daily/sometimes?
I'll see if I can dig up THE study. I know I posted a link in another thread but let me get back to you the actual results....
here's some similar reports:
http://news.healingwell.com/index.php?p=news1&id=608152
"Avoid Rush Hour
Even if the air in your area tends to be clean, avoid exercising outside—including cycling or jogging—during rush hour when vehicle emissions are highest. Your best bet is to exercise very early in the morning and avoid main roads."
from:
http://www.readersdigest.ca/health/cms/xcms/the-nitty-gritty-on-air-pollution_695_a.html
http://www.ene.gov.on.ca/en/publications/air/5097e.pdf
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/07/18/f-exercise-heat.html
http://www.lung.ca/protect-protegez/pollution-pollution/outdoor-exterior/smogsmart-futesmog_e.php
"As seen in Table 2, heavy (vigorous) activity such as running results in more
than twice the inhalation rate as light activity such as walking slowly.
Consequently the intake of air pollutants is more than twice as high during
running compared with walking."
and
"A review of British studies involving athletes concluded that outdoor exposure
to CO (such as occurs near traffic) is detrimental to athletic performance and
that ozone adversely impacts lung function and likely athletic performance
(Carlisle and Sharp, 2001). The study also found that for athletes with asthma
even low levels of SO2 result"
from:
http://www.toronto.ca/health/hphe/pdf/air_pollution_and_exercise_technical.pdf
but keep on jogging at rush hour...and when you get lung cancer you can blame it on that smoker that stood beside you at the bus stop 15 yrs ago.......
