Obama Deception??

[Toke]

I really hate conspiricy theories, but I always question politics and their motives. I've always thought that 9/11 was a little fishy (I'm not saying that the American government actually pulled it off, but I'm sure somebody knew something), and I always found it fishy that in the last election we saw many firsts; the Democrats had two minority front-runners (a female and a non-white male), and the Grand Old Party had a female on their ticket.

I've seen this film, and I'm not one to simply believe everything I hear, but I'm always one to 'check for fire if I see or smell smoke', and thought I'd post the link for others who wanted to hear various opinions.

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-obama-deception/

Hopefully, this won't start a huge political debate. I'm not really into that, I just like hearing about possibilities.

 

[Mr. Lucky]

"Yes it was the U.S. secret government who planned everything
to make an excuse for war"

This is what I hear and see in many Documentaries.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew97V8d1rvY

 

[WoodPeckr]

This should be moved to the Political Forum.
It will fit right in there....

 

[Toke]

"Yes it was the U.S. secret guvernment who planned everything
to make an excuse for war"

This is what I hear and see in many Documentaries.

It makes so much sense. All of what was said an used as an excuse for war (Weapons of Mass Destruction), has pretty much come up empty. watch the documentary... I was shocked that they used the accounts of black Americans to drive the point home. Don't get me wrong, I know the filmmakers also have an agenda.

 

[Toke]

This should be moved to the Political Forum.
It will fit right in there....

I said I didn't want to start a huge, angry debate, so I put it in the lounge purposely.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I said I didn't want to start a huge, angry debate, so I put it in the lounge purposely.

It doesn't matter.
The 'experts' are over there....

 

[Carrie Moon]

It doesn't matter.
The 'experts' are over there....

baloney. This affects all of us.. and is easy access if you want the info

zeitgeist, loose change, hijacking humanity to name a few.. there are tons of great documentaries... and that's just a start. IT's all lies..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ zeitgeist on the fed banking system

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNGukcPO3XY zeitgeist on 9/11

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE loose change

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2qPZ9WqLy4 hijacking humanity

http://www.hijackinghumanity.com

 

[amber-jade]

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[Toke]

It doesn't matter.
The 'experts' are over there....

I know. I just felt as if I would be giving 'meat' to the 'animals'.

 

[WoodPeckr]

I know. I just felt as if I would be giving 'meat' to the 'animals'.

LOL!
That it would....

 

[Toke]

baloney. This affects all of us.. and is easy access if you want the info

zeitgeist, loose change, hijacking humanity to name a few.. there are tons of great documentaries... and that's just a start. IT's all lies..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dmPchuXIXQ zeitgeist on the fed banking system

I've seen Zeitgeist. As someone who was raised catholic I've questioned religion for a long time, and now I know it's a sham (Just my opinion. I'm not trying to get any converts). I loved the question posed regarding; when will fact become authority, rather than authority creating fact.

And yes, I agree with Carrie, it matters to everyone, and I wanted to get casual opinions, not that of 'hard core' political debaters.

So again, no fighting please.

 

[Carrie Moon]

As someone who was raised catholic I've questioned religion for a long time, and now I know it's a sham (Just my opinion. I'm not trying to get any converts).

I was raised a preachers daughter... but with regards to the catholic religion (it really has it's own rules).. did you know the new testament actually specifies in 1 Timothy 3 that the leader of the church must be married and must have children? When you think about it... all the apostles had wives as well.. Can you say major discrepancy in how Jesus wanted the churches set up???

 

[bishop]

Obama deception? You mean that guy is not black, just a really tanned white guy? Holy shit!!!!!!!

 

[Toke]

I was raised a preachers daughter... but with regards to the catholic religion (it really has it's own rules).. did you know the new testament actually specifies in 1 Timothy that the leader of the church must be married and must have children? When you think about it... all the apostles had wives as well.. Can you say major discrepancy in how Jesus wanted the churches set up???

I'm not Jewish, or overly knowledgeable about that faith, but isn't Jesus also referred to as the 'King of the Jews'? In the Jewish faith isn't having a family a very expected thing?

Believe me, the Catholic church, and all Christian religions, have many holes in them. I believe that if it works for 'you', great. I hope it leads you to do great things and be a great person. However, many religions, seem to use 'rules' to control behaviour. I don't believe in heaven, but if it does exist, I'm confident that when I get to the gates. Why? The Golden Rule.

I'm getting a little off topic here, but I asked someone who was in favour of government funded Catholic schools to answer me this question:

In order to be a Catholic teacher, one must be baptized Catholic. Now, since I believe that fewer and fewer 'Catholics' live their lives as such, if 'Mr. Jones' at St. XXX school was in the midst of a divorce (which is very un-Catholic), because he cheated on his wife (again, very un-Catholic), should he be able to retain his job?

I say no, if Catholic schools want to be CATHOLIC. Outside of that, I would say yes (i.e. in a secular school).

 

[WoodPeckr]

Can you say major discrepancy in how Jesus wanted the churches set up???

Terb is very fortunate to have Pope Benedict XVI as a Terbite member, in good standing.
Address any qustions to Him and they will be answered!....

 

[Toke]

Obama deception? You mean that guy is not black, just a really tanned white guy? Holy shit!!!!!!!

I don't refer to Obama as black. He's bi-racial, or non-white or non-black. He's just as much one as he is the other. Personally, for the American President, I don't care what colour, or sex, you are. I liked Clinton... not so much Bush (I actually disliked him). Do the job and your colour won't be an issue. As great as Obama appears now, what happens to the image of black people (the people that the media has given Obama the job of representing) if he sucks worse than Bush?

 

[Toke]

Terb is very fortunate to have Pope Benedict XVI as a Terbite member, in good standing.
Address any qustions to Him and they will be answered!....

Gotcha!

 

[Jasmine Love]

I don't refer to Obama as black. He's bi-racial, or non-white or non-black. He's just as much one as he is the other. Personally, for the American President, I don't care what colour, or sex, you are. I liked Clinton... not so much Bush (I actually disliked him). Do the job and your colour won't be an issue. As great as Obama appears now, what happens to the image of black people (the people that the media has given Obama the job of representing) if he sucks worse than Bush?

Bi-racial=black in America and has since slavery (one drop rule). If Obama wasn't president and you saw him on the street, how would you identify him?

 

[dcbogey]

I'm getting a little off topic here, but I asked someone who was in favour of government funded Catholic schools to answer me this question:

In order to be a Catholic teacher, one must be baptized Catholic. Now, since I believe that fewer and fewer 'Catholics' live their lives as such, if 'Mr. Jones' at St. XXX school was in the midst of a divorce (which is very un-Catholic), because he cheated on his wife (again, very un-Catholic), should he be able to retain his job?

I say no, if Catholic schools want to be CATHOLIC. Outside of that, I would say yes (i.e. in a secular school).

Your knowledge of Catholicism, and the reason for their funding in Ontario, is severely lacking.

 

[dcbogey]

I was raised a preachers daughter... but with regards to the catholic religion (it really has it's own rules).. did you know the new testament actually specifies in 1 Timothy 3 that the leader of the church must be married and must have children? When you think about it... all the apostles had wives as well.. Can you say major discrepancy in how Jesus wanted the churches set up???

Was Jesus married?