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Barack Obama hit a Grand Slam last night with his phenomenal speech!
Barack Obama had harsh words for John McCain and the GOP, as 84,000 supporters look on.
The RNC will be hard pressed next week, to match what the DNC has done this week!


Obama tells huge Dem crowd he'll fix Washington

By DAVID ESPO and ROBERT FURLOW, Associated Press Writers
22 minutes ago

DENVER - Surrounded by an enormous, adoring crowd, Barack Obama promised a clean break from the "broken politics in Washington and the failed policies of George W. Bush" Thursday night as he embarked on the final lap of his audacious bid to become the nation's first black president.

"America, now is not the time for small plans," the 47-year-old Democratic Illinois senator told an estimated 84,000 people packed into Invesco Field, a huge football stadium at the base of the Rocky Mountains.... [more]
 

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Yep, he told it how it is....


I did not know that McCain believes the "middle class" is those who earn 5 million or less each year :eek: No wounder he believes Bushie did good the last 7 years for "middle class workers".

Heck, if I made 4 million every year, i might feel different about Bushies tax cuts and not really care gas is $4-$5 a gallon, lol.
 

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WoodPeckr said:
"America, now is not the time for small plans,"
And this is exactly why he will lose. Small plans and small minds win. They're easier to understand.
 

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gramage said:
And this is exactly why he will lose. Small plans and small minds win. They're easier to understand.
Small minds indeed. Reminds me of a great quote from Family Guy. Peter is riding on an elephant and says to Lois:

"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
 

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I watched some of the speaches and the replays this morning. I was left wondering if they are electing a politician or a religious leader. Some of that was scary.

Obama did in fact do an excelent speach and the converted ate it up. The big question is will it translate to the wider population.

One part that will concern a large number of Americans was the inference that only Washington can help you.

By and large most Americans are not interested in bigger govt. That might turn around and bite him.
 

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I watched some of the speaches and the replays this morning. I was left wondering if they are electing a politician or a religious leader. Some of that was scary.

Obama did in fact do an excelent speach and the converted ate it up. The big question is will it translate to the wider population.

One part that will concern a large number of Americans was the inference that only Washington can help you.

By and large most Americans are not interested in bigger govt. That might turn around and bite him.
What happened to the size of gov't during the Reagan/Bush/Bush years?
 

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By and large most Americans are not interested in bigger govt. That might turn around and bite him.
Because Americans are in large part conservatives. Republicans have not been conservatives since Reagan and the Dems are just to polite/weak to point it out.
 

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His delivery was excellent as expected, but if you believe that he is going to accomplish all these pie in the sky initiatives then I got some Louisiana swampland you'll like. For example, I'd like to know how he plans to increase labor rates and add jobs and yet keep jobs from moving offshore. Seems a little contradictory. Companies move offshore due to high domestic labor rates, and he wants to increase them. And he's beholding to the big unions. :rolleyes:
I guess some people are easily impressed by a sweet talker promising the moon.
 

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The Crunge said:
What happened to the size of gov't during the Reagan/Bush/Bush years?
Are you saying those were the good old days?

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BottomsUp said:
His delivery was excellent as expected, but if you believe that he is going to accomplish all these pie in the sky initiatives then I got some Louisiana swampland you'll like. For example, I'd like to know how he plans to increase labor rates and add jobs and yet keep jobs from moving offshore. Seems a little contradictory. Companies move offshore due to high domestic labor rates, and he wants to increase them. And he's beholding to the big unions. :rolleyes:
I guess some people are easily impressed by a sweet talker promising the moon.
He was preaching to the converted, read any of Pekkkr's posts for this nonsense. It doesn't have to make sense to fire up the left, it just has to blame their failure on someone else.

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Another View....

Can you pick up the Pekkkr line below?


A Fine Speech but a Wasted Convention

Toby Harnden Fri Aug 29, 7:30 AM ET

It was a fine speech. Beautifully crafted phrases that inspired, though they perhaps did not inform, floated high above the Doric columns on the stage at Invesco Field. At the same time, Barack Obama, his feet on the ground, delivered the meat and potatoes, reciting a checklist of the concerns of ordinary Americans who are hurting.

Much of it was Democratic boilerplate but he outlined plans, a few in detail. He talked, albeit vaguely, about how he would pay for some of them. And he attacked John McCain, witheringly. He was deft in intimating that the Arizona senator is an angry old codger, without quite saying that - McCain "doesn't get it" and it and lacks the right "temperament" for the White House.

The Illinois senator even showed some passion. A huge cheer went up around the stadium when his recitation of a litany of misdeeds under President George W. Bush ended with an emphatic: "Enough!" It seems a touch contrived (the exclamation mark was in the prepared text) and it was so uncharacteristic as to be slightly jarring. But he'd been urged to get angry and he made a decent go of appearing to be just that.

Trouble is, every nominee's acceptance address is the "biggest speech of his life". Every four years, the breathless build-up is duly followed by the punditocracy declaring that he hit a home run - though this time David Gergen's "it was less a speech than a symphony" might have raised a blush or two even at Obama HQ in Chicago.

We already knew, moreover, that Obama could give a fine speech. To a large extent, the McCain campaign, building on Hillary Clinton's "just words" and "one speech", has neutralized this powerful talent by turning it against him. By over-reaching in Berlin, the fine speechifying became a potential millstone for him.

Truth be told, the faux Greek temple looked more Vegas than Parthenon. The backdrop was probably designed to evoke the Lincoln memorial with perhaps a dash of West Wing thrown in. But once the fireworks had exploded from the structure and red, white and blue streamers were draped over it, it was sheer kitsch.

It was the first time a Democrat had accepted his party's nomination at an open air site since John F. Kennedy at the Memorial Coliseum in Los Angeles in 1960. No doubt the comparison was a conscious one when Invesco was chosen above the plain old 18,000-seat Pepsi Center.

Filling a stadium with more than 84,000 people is no mean feat but the whole event had the feel of a great idea if Obama had been holding a 12-point poll lead and looked to be cruising towards an easy victory in November. With the polls now tied and a dogfight with McCain beckoning it felt like a mistake.

The venue belied the most important - and new - part of his message, to "spell out exactly what that change would mean if I am President". Having the plans to help ordinary Americans is one thing but persuading them to believe you have the will and capacity to carry them out is another.

Obama's demeanor remains cool and aloof. Bill Clinton could feel people's pain. Obama who, as Michael Barone has pointed out, has spent his entire adult life living in university communities, appears to view people's pain with concerned detachment.

He went on the attack but obviously felt conflicted about doing so. His lofty pronouncement that "what I will not do is suggest that the Senator [McCain] takes his positions for political purposes" was either nonsensical or disingenuous. It felt like the former. Why else do Democrats think McCain has changed his positions?

Throughout the week, Democrats were far too polite towards John McCain. Yes, he's a war hero but, as Wesley Clark correctly if impoliticly pointed out, that doesn't in itself qualify him to be President, and there's no need to honor McCain's service every time his name is mentioned. On Wednesday, Joe Biden, with senatorial collegiality, kept calling him John (though he did him once with George) when McCain or McSame would have done fine.

Obama has allowed McCain to get under his skin and inside his head. He mentioned McCain 21 times in the speech. In 1988, George H. W. Bush didn't use the name Michael Dukakis once. In 2000, the words Al Gore crossed George W. Bush's lips precisely once. Yet Obama even stooped to mentioning McCain's most effective attack ad, bleating that "I don't know what kind of lives John McCain thinks that celebrities lead..."

The main benefit for Obama of speaking at Invesco was that it drew a line under the first three days of the convention which were dominated by the Clintons. Even at the point of the nomination by acclamation, the television image was of the former First Lady graciously deigning to grant the honor to the Young Pretender as chants of "Hillary, Hillary!" rang out around the arena.

Certainly, Senator Clinton did what she had to do in calling on her supporters to support her erstwhile rival. But it was a coldly logical endorsement. "Those are the reasons I ran for President," she said. "Those are the reasons I support Barack Obama. And those are the reasons you should too."

Bill did his bit with a more emotion and conviction but we knew that he could deliver an utterly insincere or untrue statement with feeling and believability. He needed to say it so he did and he did it well. But no one thought he actually believed it.

There wasn't a coherent message from the convention. Mark Warner's keynote was a bust - Paul Begala's reminder that this wasn't the Richmond Chamber of Commerce just about summed it up. McCain and Bush were hardly talked about during the first two days. It did genuinely feel like a surprise when Obama made his surprise appearance at the close of day three because before then so little of the proceedings had been about him.

The Clintons played the parts that fate had dictated they had to because they knew that another run in 2012 depended on them being good soldiers until November 4th. Obama gave a fine speech. But the convention did little to advance his candidacy and August was a month squandered by the newly-minted Democratic nominee.
 

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LMAO!!!
GOPer hacks, as expected, were saying that BS last night on FAUX!

Point is DEMS had a fantastic week in Denver.

We will be wainting to see how the GOP and their OLD fart top them next week!...;)
 

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WoodPeckr said:
LMAO!!!
GOPer hacks, as expected, were saying that BS last night on FAUX!

Point is DEMS had a fantastic week in Denver.

We will be wainting to see how the GOP and their OLD fart top them next week!...;)
By making the conversation about enemies.
 

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gramage said:
By making the conversation about enemies.
....along with spreading their mantra of fear and paranoia!

When they get done scaring you next week there will be many 'soiled panties' at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota!....:eek:
 

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....along with spreading their mantra of fear and paranoia!

When they get done scaring you next week there will be many 'soiled panties' at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota!....:eek:
Exactly. Fear and paranoia sell, and usually they sell better then hope.
 

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Exactly. Fear and paranoia sell, and usually they sell better then hope.

The GOP has a trademark on fear and paranoia. If 2000, and even worse 2004, aren't prime examples of how they marketed and sold that brand, I don't know what is.
 

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The GOP has a trademark on fear and paranoia. If 2000, and even worse 2004, aren't prime examples of how they marketed and sold that brand, I don't know what is.
Exactly. And it WON! And barring a massive shift in conversation/coverage that takes peoples minds off this fear it will win again. The re-emergence of Russia as an energy power rather than nuclear power (which is more dangerous to America as they can use this power without facing destruction), the continued fear of Jihadists, and Chavez running his mouth in Venezuela (sp) will all play on peoples fear. And McCain with his two-word answers will seem like someone who can keep people safe, and he will win, and start wars against all of these people.
 

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GOP better have plenty of 'Depends Dispensers' ready at the Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minnesota next week!...;)
 

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Obama is getting nervous instead of delivering a speech of hope and prosperity he has decided to play politics as usual.
Instead of saying what he will do and more importantly how he will do it he just was the moderator of a well orchestrated infomercial.

He has confirmed his "politics as usual" game by making Biden his VP..who is the prototype of a Washington insider.
 

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gramage said:
Exactly. And it WON! And barring a massive shift in conversation/coverage that takes peoples minds off this fear it will win again. The re-emergence of Russia as an energy power rather than nuclear power (which is more dangerous to America as they can use this power without facing destruction), the continued fear of Jihadists, and Chavez running his mouth in Venezuela (sp) will all play on peoples fear. And McCain with his two-word answers will seem like someone who can keep people safe, and he will win, and start wars against all of these people.
Yes indeed, McCain will "defeat evil." He's one heck of a guy.

Damn the Dems for losing their advantage on national security. Who led the charge against the Nazis and the Japanese? A Dem! Who stared down the Russians in October 1962? A Dem. The two most significant national security challenges of the 20th century, dealt with by Democrats. And yet they have allowed the GOP to make them look like pussies.
 
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