O.P.P. "speeding" trick

Jennifer_

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So here's what happened to me yesterday...

I was driving along the 407 at a decent speed when I realized there was an OPP car up ahead of me driving in the right-hand lane. I was already in the middle lane with a few cars behind me. The car to my left immediately slowed down and got in behind me.

Keeping a constant speed as to not pass the cruiser at about 119. The cruiser started slowing down until I almost had caught up with him - so I adjusted my speed accordingly.

He slowed again as did I - now cruising at about 112. I was close behind him on the highway. Suddenly he slowed quite quickly - I slowed to 109 but did not take it any further b/c I didn't want to make it obvious that I was trying not to pass him.

So I kept driving and gradually passed him going 109 (I was keeping a close eye on the speedometer). As soon as my car makes a full pass - He jumps behind me and puts on the lights.

I've been driving regularly on the 407 for four years - I can't count how many times I've passed a speed trap or diven behind a cruiser at 120 with no problem. Even a traffic cop friend of my family assured me that as long as i did not exceed 119 - the police won't pull you over for speeding.

I couldn't believe I was being pulled over for going 109 on the 407 where average speed is 120 and average speed in the passing lane is `135 - 140.

So the officer walks up to my car - he's young. Huffs out "going pretty fast there eh?"

I bit my tongue. But when he told me I had passed him at 120 I had to speak up.

So I told him I had my car on cruise at 109 and I pointed out that I noticed he had slowed down quickly prior to pulling me over.

His reply "what is your speedometer broken?". (on my four-month old car??) After a few minutes sitting in his car - he ended up walking back and giving me "it's your lucky day" and let me go.

My question is - if there's no radar reading - and you are ticketed going at a faster speed than what you know you were going - could one actually lose in traffic court?
 

Jennifer_

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hot_scorpio said:
They need to show you the rador to prove the speed
are they able to take a radar reading when they're just driving along?

I was pulled over a few years ago by an unmarked car that was driving behind me - but there were two officers in the car and (although I didn't ask to see the radar) I'd assume one was driving and one was watching the radar.

This guy was by himself.
 

SPQR

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They do have Radars euipment than can monitor you in motion as long as you are directly infront or behind the vehicle.

I know people who have gotten tickets for just being 10km over the limit

Generally if you re going under 115 not 119 they don't bother, because no points involved, as long as you are not driving irratically.

Even if you to get a ticket for being between 110-115 over, officers have not shown up in court. Atleast for me.

Lastly, I have little respect for OPP officers. I have met to many of them to think anything else. But they are pussycats compared to Quebec police.
 

Esco!

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A cop can do whats called a 'Visual Observation' of your speeding without needing a radar gun.
Only problem is they dont hold up well in court, so if you ever get one of those make sure you take it to court.
 

misty

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i have had my share of tickets for speeding in the year i think it is around 30 in all my years of driving and i could honeslty say that 80% of them i got off.
i always ask to see the radar, they get up set but u want to make sure that u r going that speed.
besides they can not give u a ticket for doing 10 over. and if they do always fight it.
 

KBear

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The cop does not have to show you the radar, but will if it is safe to do so, and they feel like it. If the cop shows you the radar they probably make a note of it for court.

Getting pulled over for going 9km over the limit is bad luck. Maybe he saw you coming and thought you were going very fast, and decided to pull you over just to let you know they are out there.
 

Papi Chulo

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misty said:
they can not give u a ticket for doing 10 over. and if they do always fight it.

Thay can give you a ticket for 9kn over the limit.. there are no points with it, but it is a moving violation and will affect insurance
 

plyrs99

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misty, the cops cannot give you a ticket for going 10 over the limit? you do know that you can be ticketed for going just 1 KMH over the limit, if the cop feels like doing so. i have seen it done. the cop must really be in a foul mood, or just be a real prick to get you for that, but, dont think it wont or cant happen.

as for the radar gun, it is your right to be shown the speed on the gun. you can also ask to be made aware of when the radar gun was last calibrated. of course, doing these things will in all likeliness piss off the cop, but you are well within your rights to do so.
 

KBear

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If you get pulled over on the highway, and the radar is built into the cop car, the cop may feel that it is not safe for you to walk out and see the reading, and will not show it to you. It is not an obligation for them to show you the reading.
 

tboy

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misty said:
i have had my share of tickets for speeding in the year i think it is around 30 in all my years of driving and i could honeslty say that 80% of them i got off.
i always ask to see the radar, they get up set but u want to make sure that u r going that speed.
besides they can not give u a ticket for doing 10 over. and if they do always fight it.
Sorry, but cops can give you a ticket for doing ONE km over the limit.....that's like saying a green hornet can't give you a parking ticket within one minute of the meter running out which they also do....In fact, there was a write up in the paper about a guy who watched one do just that.....sit there watching the meter until it clicked....

As already posted, he probably saw you gain on him in his rearview mirror and his slowing down was so he could get behind you to light you up.

I also ran into this situation going up hwy 11 one monday. There was a long line of traffic in the right lane going exactly the speed limit. So I set my cruise at 117 and crept up...there was a cruiser in the right lane doing 110 but 117/118 going down hills (the bastard lol). It took me forever to pass him and I was right beside him for about 10 minutes lol but I finally got past him.
 

LancsLad

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A lot depends on the word from the top. If they are told to use a zero tolerance policy in some area for awhile to make a point, thats what they will do.
 

greenii

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KBear said:
If you get pulled over on the highway, and the radar is built into the cop car, the cop may feel that it is not safe for you to walk out and see the reading, and will not show it to you. It is not an obligation for them to show you the reading.

You are being charged with an infraction,and the radar gun holds the evidence,so when asked like some one else said earlier they have to show it to you and also the paperwork for when it was last calibrated,if the cop feels it's unsafe for you to get out of your car because of where you are you have the right to go somewhere safer and see the speed on the gun,if they do not show it to you it is basically thrown out of court when you fight the ticket. remember the judge has to rule without a doubt if you are guilty,not wanting to show you the gun or paper work when last calibrated brings doubt on the evidence and they cannot hold you liable for the infraction. Went through this and the judge in about 2 mins dismissed the case,
 

2SOON JR

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probably the cop was hitting on ur or something ?

I've done that tons of times to the cops, its always better to pass them as they'll be sure not to pull you over. There is some kind of stupid mentality behind that, i don't get it either. Speedtraps r something different, but IMO always pass the cop if he is doing 120 or so

and ya speed limit is 100 KM/ hr only :)
 
<adding 2 cents>
You can get a ticket for going 1 km/h over the LIMIT, but they will generally give you 10 - 20 as a rule of thumb, mood depending.
A cop is a professional witness.... you say 105, they say 135, the judge says 135. Radar is proof, but their word will be taken over yours.
If you dispute a ticket, they used not to show and people got off, now they have a ton of paperwork to justify the no-show so now they show up....hence they will pull more people and "give them the gears". Also, they are checking your record in the car....if it's good, warning.... if it's bad, ticket.
Used to be 2 warning then ticket, dunno about now though.
 

Hightop

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As for a ticket when there is no radar gun "Visual observation" They can follow you for 1km and judge by their speedometer as to how fast your going. However you can ask that their car get impounded and speedo calibrated to make sure its accurate. Will piss them off but its your right if thats what they are using as evidence. but you can bet the cop will show to court
 
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