NSO - Why is it Allowed to Operate?

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But NSO is not alone. Israel is a veritable sleaze factory when it comes to respecting human rights and these spyware tools are just an extension of this
ethos.

Revelations about the use of spying tools sold to governments by NSO Group sparked furious political rows across the world on Monday after evidence emerged to suggest the surveillance firm’s clients may have sought to target their political opponents.

Amid growing concern over the apparent abuse of NSO’s powerful phone-hacking spyware, Pegasus, Amazon confirmed it already had cut some of its ties to the Israeli surveillance company. The stock price of Apple dipped amid worries about the privacy and security of its handsets.

NSO claims its surveillance tools are sold to carefully vetted government clients who are only permitted to use them for legitimate investigations into crime and terrorism. However, the Pegasus project, a consortium of media outlets including the Guardian, revealed that:

At least 50 people close to Mexico’s president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador – including his wife, children, aides and doctor – were included in the list of possible targets when he was an opposition politician.

Rahul Gandhi, the most prominent political rival of the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, was twice selected as a potential target in leaked phone number data.

Carine Kanimba, the American daughter of Paul Rusesabagina, the imprisoned Rwandan activist who inspired the film Hotel Rwanda, has been victim of multiple attacks using NSO spyware, according to a forensic analysis of her mobile phone, although Rwanda denies it has the NSO technology.

Whistleblower Edward Snowden said he feared Pegasus was potentially so powerful that it and spyware like it should be banned from international sale. “If they find a way to hack one iPhone, they’ve found a way to hack all of them,” Snowden said, arguing spyware should be treated in a similar way to nuclear weapons where trade in the technology is heavily restricted.



 
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It's an Israely company... not Israel.

Al Jazeera did a pretty good documentary piece on them. They provide paper work for their Arab clients siting the firm is based in Greece as to avoid ruffling feathers at home.

Their spyware is the real deal.
 
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But NSO is not alone. Israel is a veritable sleaze factory when it comes to respecting human rights and these spyware tools are just an extension of this
ethos.

Revelations about the use of spying tools sold to governments by NSO Group sparked furious political rows across the world on Monday after evidence emerged to suggest the surveillance firm’s clients may have sought to target their political opponents.

Amid growing concern over the apparent abuse of NSO’s powerful phone-hacking spyware, Pegasus, Amazon confirmed it already had cut some of its ties to the Israeli surveillance company. The stock price of Apple dipped amid worries about the privacy and security of its handsets.

NSO claims its surveillance tools are sold to carefully vetted government clients who are only permitted to use them for legitimate investigations into crime and terrorism. However, the Pegasus project, a consortium of media outlets including the Guardian, revealed that:

At least 50 people close to Mexico’s president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador – including his wife, children, aides and doctor – were included in the list of possible targets when he was an opposition politician.

Rahul Gandhi, the most prominent political rival of the Indian prime minister, Narendra Modi, was twice selected as a potential target in leaked phone number data.

Carine Kanimba, the American daughter of Paul Rusesabagina, the imprisoned Rwandan activist who inspired the film Hotel Rwanda, has been victim of multiple attacks using NSO spyware, according to a forensic analysis of her mobile phone, although Rwanda denies it has the NSO technology.

Whistleblower Edward Snowden said he feared Pegasus was potentially so powerful that it and spyware like it should be banned from international sale. “If they find a way to hack one iPhone, they’ve found a way to hack all of them,” Snowden said, arguing spyware should be treated in a similar way to nuclear weapons where trade in the technology is heavily restricted.



How about a modified version of the Archie Bunker solution here? All phone calls everywhere are recorded, and "the govt." and the courts all have access. Would take "be careful what you say" to a whole new level...
 

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How about a modified version of the Archie Bunker solution here? All phone calls everywhere are recorded, and "the govt." and the courts all have access. Would take "be careful what you say" to a whole new level...
Ykes, like the NSO does the NSA?

The NSO software is how MBS tracked and planned the Khoshoggi killing.
 

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And let’s not forget another sleazy Israeli outfit, Black Cube….one of Harvey Weinstein’s allies.

“Weinstein hired included Kroll, which is one of the world’s largest corporate-intelligence companies, and Black Cube, an enterprise run largely by former officers of Mossad and other Israeli intelligence agencies. Black Cube, which has branches in Tel Aviv, London, and Paris, offers its clients the skills of operatives “highly experienced and trained in Israel’s elite military and governmental intelligence units,” according to its literature.”

 
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No surprise that you defend a company that spies on activists and sends that info to despots.
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No surprise you completely ignore what people say and continue on with your crusade. You don't listen to what Palestinians say so I'm not surprised you don't bother reading what I posted.
 

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No surprise you completely ignore what people say and continue on with your crusade. You don't listen to what Palestinians say so I'm not surprised you don't bother reading what I posted.
Your software has been used to kill journalists and activists.
 

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Your software has been used to kill journalists and activists.
I can't recall developing any software.

But no surprise you want to go after Israel because a private company sold software to people and those other people used it for bad things. Anything to further your crusade.
 

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Some interesting articles on NSO. This technology is the real deal.

Welcome to 1984.







 

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I can't recall developing any software.

But no surprise you want to go after Israel because a private company sold software to people and those other people used it for bad things. Anything to further your crusade.
You are defending NSO and the Israeli government's involvement here, as you defend Israeli attacks on civilians in would could have been Palestine and other countries.
Crusade as a term is more appropriately applied to a settler colonial country that is interested in turning it into an ethno state for one religion/people.

Canada's Citizen's Lab has been tracking this company and software for years.
Its not at all surprising that you are taking the side of an Israeli black ops/spying organization linked to the Israeli government over the people of Canada, journalists and activists.
 

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You are defending NSO ...
Where did I do that?

Meanwhile you are so desperate to spread your rabid views about Israel that you want to use a private company who sold software to people who used it for bad as an excuse to continue your frothing at the mouth.

And of course you have never bothered even hinting at concern over the huge numbers of countries that have massive authoritarian control over internet usage simply because they aren't Jewish majority countries.
 

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And of course you are so obsessed with Israel that you complain that an Israeli company developed software and say nothing about the countries choose to use the software inappropriately. What fun would it be for you to criticize UAE, Bahrain, India, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Qatar, or the half dozen other countries suspected of abusing the capabilities when you can obsess about Israel.


BTW, it seems like the US, Canada, the UK, France, and Netherlands are places where Pegasus is used.
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And of course you are so obsessed with Israel that you complain that an Israeli company developed software and say nothing about the countries choose to use the software inappropriately. What fun would it be for you to criticize UAE, Bahrain, India, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Lebanon, Qatar, or the half dozen other countries suspected of abusing the capabilities when you can obsess about Israel.


BTW, it seems like the US, Canada, the UK, France, and Netherlands are places where Pegasus is used.
Yes, you raise a good point.
Not only did Israel develop this phone hacking tool and target journalists and activists they also sold it to the biggest despots in the world.
That's some winning argument.
 

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Yes, you raise a good point.
Not only did Israel develop this phone hacking tool and target journalists and activists they also sold it to the biggest despots in the world.
That's some winning argument.
Keep on making up shit. an Israeli company (not Israel) developed the software. It gets used by many countries to do things like track terrorists.

But you want to blame Israel because its your obsession.
 

Frankfooter

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Keep on making up shit. an Israeli company (not Israel) developed the software. It gets used by many countries to do things like track terrorists.

But you want to blame Israel because its your obsession.
Its sold to despots to track journalists and activists.
No wonder you keep defending it.

 
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