Noam Chomsky on borders

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blackrock13

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Good grief, 3:30 hours, you're kidding right? Something tells me you didn't watch it all. Save us the time and give us a summary of what your hero thinks.
 

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He starts talking at .41. :D
 
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These straight links with no one bothering to give a little detail are a fucking waste of time every time I link to one. They should not be allowed on terb. Take a minute and explain what is interesting, since I've taken a minute and linked into your interesting title.
Anyway, this one is over three hours in length.

On the plus side I don't think I've seen so many middle-east heritage woman of such beauty all at once.:)
 

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I would guess something about borders being a violation of human rights or some similar drivel.
 

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These straight links with no one bothering to give a little detail are a fucking waste of time every time I link to one. They should not be allowed on terb. Take a minute and explain what is interesting, since I've taken a minute and linked into your interesting title.
Anyway, this one is over three hours in length.

On the plus side I don't think I've seen so many middle-east heritage woman of such beauty all at once. .:)
Sorry, I will try to do better:


The whole commencement ceremony is long, but Noam Chomsky only speaks for a small portion of it. He talks from 0.41 to 0.56, a mere 15 minutes, and he is well worth listening to.

His two topics is borders, where his thesis is that most borders have been set by imperial powers (he is in Beiruth), and environmental concerns for the planet, where his thesis is that the most advanced powers do the least, while the remaining primitive indeginious people do the most.
 

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Thanks for the clarification. Didn't see this post earlier today or I might have been grumbling about the video length as well.

But now I'm going to check it out.

When Chomksy speaks, I like to listen.
 

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+1 !!!

Master Noam is a brilliant intellect....something cons frown upon.....:eyebrows:
 

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Google is your friend.

http://www.aub.edu.lb/commencement/Documents/speeches-13/chomsky-june-15.pdf

AI research is a better friend though if you're lazy like me.

Here's the machine generated summary:

With wrenching tragedies only a few miles away, and still worse catastrophes perhaps not far removed, it may seem wrong, perhaps even cruel, to shift attention to what may seem to be more abstract prospects, uncertain ones, but ones that might offer a path to a better world – and not in the remote future.

...The Syrian civil war has reignited the Sunni-Shia conflict that was one of the most terrible consequences of the US-UK invasion of Iraq ten years ago – and we should never forget that the Nuremberg judgment, which forms a core part of modern international law, described aggression as the “supreme international crime,” differing from other war crimes in that it encompasses all of the evil that followed.

...we must all take part, with dedication and resolve, if there is any hope for decent human survival in a world that has no borders, and is our common possession, to defend or to destroy.
Honestly, one of Chomsky's crappier speeches. His writing is dense and hard to parse, his speeches are generally better suited for hour long events. I saw him once years ago at Massey Hall.

On a related note - I'm a bit surprised that nobody seems pissed at the domestic surveillance program that the NSA has.
 

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So what is he saying? The present Middle East frontiers were imposed on the region in the 1900s by the occupying powers, (Britain and France). No-one paid any attention to the wishes/needs of the resident population. Can't argue with that.

It would be so nice if we could wander all over the earth, without regard to frontiers, and if everyone could just be friends. Can't argue with that, either.

So, what does his great mind offer as a way out of the never-ending awful conflicts that have arisen from these imposed frontiers? Well, we can't argue with his proposals, because he doesn't make any.

Just how should the world respond to the problems that arise when an arbitrary and artificial frontier provokes hostilities between two sides? How should frontiers be set? What do we really need to do, to secure peace in the Middle East?

All Noam Chomsky -- one of the "great intellects" -- can come up with is "Wouldn't it be nice if frontier problems didn't exist?"

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Very weak arguments. Logic, facts and reason don't seem to mean much to the Chomsky cult members. Reminds me of Clinton saying "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the—if he—if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not—that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement".

Here is another author detailing Chomsky's errors.

http://balkanwitness.glypx.com/chomskydenial.htm

http://balkanwitness.glypx.com/Chomsky-Hedges.htm
 

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I knew it was too good to be true that Chomsky was alleging that his dislike put the U.S. Book store chain out of business. :rolleyes:
 

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Chomsky is brilliant to read. Spot on accurate. I'd bet my last breath or dollar on what he says. But his lectures r absolutely brutal. He talks terrible. Doesn't mean I don't believe him. I'd just rather read it than listen to it.
 
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