Mostly in usability and UX. So good that both Microsoft and Canonical have went on the record, stating they're trying to emulate it.
In addition, some others. Grand Central Dispatch. Time Machine. Spotlight.
No wonder Windows 7 is the best Windows yet...
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In addition, some others. Grand Central Dispatch. Time Machine. Spotlight.
Spotlight was on Linux (Beagle). Time Machine's just incremental versioned backup (borrows some licensed technology from Sun); such already existed, even on Macs. Very nice interface though, and excellent usability (beats the heck out of random scripts). Grand Central Dispatch is "yet another implementation" of an existing idea.
The UI (which I like), many old Macheads would argue, is a step backward (especially the Finder) and is not as consistent as the old Mac systems though much prettier (IMO).
Again, stability, yes (especially compared to < OS 7, but even when compared to OS 9). Polish, absolutely. But the only real innovation (outside of business ones) I can think of is the decision to build on Job's NeXt and NeXtStep.
[Edit: Leaving the forum for a while, and, with some luck, for good, so I won't be able to respond, whether the above is shown to be incorrect or correct or a bit of both. My final - I hope - comment here would be that personal computers have come a long way, but they're still way too difficult for the average Joe and Jill, even desktop OSX. Perhaps smartphones and ebook readers and the like, or something else entirely, will provide an easier way for the basic "computer things" that most want or need to do. Maybe desktop computers will improve. Either way, here's hoping for better things to come. It's been a blast (of sorts). Have fun. Be safe. Take care of those who matter most. Share a smile and a laugh with a stranger. Hold the door open. Read a book. Drink enough water. Sing. And then smile again. Cheers!]
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No Linux is based on MInx and OSX and NEXT were both BSD ... since 10.5 OSX is a BSD distro. There was a long slow update migration from a BSD based Unix to BSD .. but it fully BSD now.Not so.
Ubuntu came before OS X, since OS X was developed as a mutant form from NextStep which went back to open source BSD.
As censored notes: OSX relies on a slew of open source tools, many of which owe much of their development to Linux-based developers.
Therefore it's best to view OS X as a mongrel bastard of Unix/BSD/Darwin/Linux open source development....
What Open Source Tools are u talking about ... majority come from BSD ..
http://www.apple.com/opensource/
Samba was originally designed for UNIX and is an Open Source version of CIFS suite .... which was first introduced by MS.
Just an FYI Censored
Beagle uses the Lucene indexing system from the Apache project and the prodigious Doug Cutting, ported to .NET by George Aroush.
Spotlight shares the same origins.
Beagle uses the Lucene indexing system from the Apache project and the prodigious Doug Cutting, ported to .NET by George Aroush.
Spotlight shares the same origins.
Your point is?
MS is late to the party on this one too.
The point is that Linux is not exclusively about the Desktop market.
Linux has displaced Unix in the server world and sits at the top of Server OS market share. Windows is 3rd or 4th place. Apple is not in the server market.
Mac is purely a Desktop operating system
Well I don't see Apple taking part in this do I?
MS is late to the party on this one too.
The point is that Linux is not exclusively about the Desktop market.
Linux has displaced Unix in the server world and sits at the top of Server OS market share. Windows is 3rd or 4th place. Apple is not in the server market.
Mac is purely a Desktop operating system
Lack of understanding about the Linux community? Wow...if you read my posts, I've been looking (and sold) at Linux distros for over a decade. I admit that I don't actively participate in the "Linux Community" aside from the Ubuntu one on occasion but I am definitely not ignorant of it.
As for bashing Linux? I am not here to bash Linux, again, if you look at my past posts you will see that I only respond when the Linux fanbois say something about OS X that is totally off the wall or patently false.
Yet another example of those "patently false" comments that the Linux fanbois make.
Hey, no commentary about Shuttleworth's move to copy OS X's usability and polish? Figures.
I do not have over 200 xserve hosting and maybe a mix 50 linux/Open Solaris boxes....... I run a site with about 100 million uniques weekly and then deploy content to maybe another 80 or 90 sites .... so please try to stick to true comments about OSX .....
here is an interesting article regarding Apple in the Enterprise and it speaks the truth more then anything i have read
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10401845-37.html
Actually Gartner report groups OSX on the server with Unix since it is a Unix and not Unix like any more.Mainly because their OS can't run on PCs....
I was pointing out what a few Apple salesman told me when I asked if I can install Snow Leopard on my PC. They all said NO it can't be done and won't work! I then asked if they had ever heard of a Hackintosh? They were not amused and said that is illegal!....
Sooo .... retail people for the average consumer.... your point? I know this Linux know it all .... he doesn't even know the origin of half he says ... WOWI was pointing out what a few Apple salesman told me when I asked if I can install Snow Leopard on my PC. They all said NO it can't be done and won't work! I then asked if they had ever heard of a Hackintosh? They were not amused and said that is illegal!....
There is a strong market around OS X Server as danibbler pointed out.
That being said, good to see Linux doing well in the server world. That's where it belongs -- in a server, locked in the back room. Not on my desktop.
You should go for it and setup a hackintosh. And see how Linux should be.I was pointing out what a few Apple salesman told me when I asked if I can install Snow Leopard on my PC. They all said NO it can't be done and won't work! I then asked if they had ever heard of a Hackintosh? They were not amused and said that is illegal!....
A beautiful windows manager. A simple, easy package installer. Polished yet intuitive usability. Wide support from vendors and OEM's.
That's why he's like the Rush Limbaugh of tech.
When he's not foaming at the mouth, ranting between his two arguments (macs cost too much or Linux is taking over) repeated ad nauseam. He ignores valid points and just spins some fluff.
I was surprised he didn't refer to that TUAW link I posted as "another job by the drive-by media".
Or http://www.apple.com/business/profiles/
Twitter, LinkedIn, Digital Kitchen, Hallmark are just a few listed.
