No more Twinkies in the U.S. but we're okay in Canada.

FTWWTF

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Great news, twinkies are one of my favourite guilty pleasures. Being a diabetic I cant eat them too much, but Ill buy 1 a month as a treat, and just take a little bit extra insulin.
 

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In my opinion, there's no worse junk food or empty calories than crap like that. I'd rather have a raisin bran muffin or a carrot muffin, something a bit better for you. I'm diabetic also so I'm very careful what I choose to eat. Taking more insulin on the odd occasion is okay but you're still cheating yourself in the long run.
 

GameBoy27

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Union employees refused to make concessions and single-handedly put 18,500 people out of work. Well done lads!

NEW YORK—Hostess Brands Inc. is warning striking employees that it will move to liquidate the company if plant operations don’t return to normal levels by Thursday evening.

The maker of Twinkies, Ding Dongs and Wonder Bread said Thursday it will file a motion in U.S. Bankruptcy Court to shutter operations if enough workers don’t return by 5 p.m. EST. That would result in the loss of about 18,000 jobs.

Hostess, based in Irving, Texas, has already reached a contract agreement with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. But thousands of members in its second biggest union went on strike late last week after rejecting a contract offer that cut wages and benefits in September. Officials for the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union say the company stopped contributing to workers’ pensions last year.

Lance Ignon, a spokesman for Hostess, said that production at about a dozen of its 33 plants has been seriously affected by the strike. He said that a decision on whether Hostess will have to move to liquidate the company may not come until Friday morning, after it’s had a chance to assess plant operations at the end of Thursday.

The Teamsters meanwhile is urging the smaller union to hold a secret ballot on whether to continue striking. Citing its financial experts who had access to the company’s books, the Teamsters say that Hostess’ warning of liquidation is “not an empty threat or a negotiating tactic” but a certain outcome if workers continue striking.

Hostess, a privately held company, filed for Chapter 11 protection in January, its second trip through bankruptcy court in less than a decade. The company cited increasing pension and medical costs for employees as one of the drivers behind its latest filing. Hostess has argued that workers must make concessions for it to exit bankruptcy and improve its financial position.

The company, founded in 1930, is fighting increased competition in the snack space while consumers are more conscious about healthy eating. Hostess also makes Dolly Madison, Drake’s and Nature’s Pride snacks.

Hostess said it will file the motion to liquidate Friday, with a hearing scheduled for Monday. If the motion is granted, Hostess would begin closing operations as early as Tuesday.
IRVING, Texas — Hostess Brands says it’s going out of business, closing US plants that make Twinkies and Wonder Bread and laying off all of its 18,500 workers.

The Irving, Tex. company says a nationwide worker strike crippled its ability to make and deliver its products at several locations.

Hostess had warned employees that it would file a motion in US Bankruptcy Court to unwind its business and sell assets if plant operations didn’t return to normal levels by Nov. 15.

The privately held company filed for Chapter 11 protection in January, its second trip through bankruptcy court in less than a decade.

Hostess Brands has bakery operations across the US but other companies make several of its brands for the Canadian market.

George Weston Ltd. of Toronto counts Wonder Bread among its brands while Montreal-based Saputo has rights to the Hostess brand in Canada but doesn’t include Twinkies among its current line-up of snack cakes.
 

S.C. Joe

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Yeah, forget getting raises, today you should take cuts in pay every so often.. (shakes his head)

Too bad the cost of living keeps going higher and higher/
 

nuprin001

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Can't wait for someone to blame Obama for this one.
Yeah, forget getting raises, today you should take cuts in pay every so often.. (shakes his head)

Too bad the cost of living keeps going higher and higher/
Tongue-in-cheek, but let me give it a try.

The position the union membership were in was that the "normal" some job is better than no job equation was invalidated. Obama has extended unemployment benefits out so far that there is now a third choice to that equation: no job with unemployment benefits so you can sit at home for years is better than some job which is better than no job with no benefits. Actually, no job with unemployment benefits so you can sit at home for years is, arguably, better than having a job in the first place, depending on just how much you are getting from unemployment, and especially if you can work an under-the-table job as well. Remember, these were union jobs, which means they were fairly high-paying for the skill level required. Baking, especially industrial baking like this, is not a truly skilled job: it's a matter of pressing buttons on a machine and not getting caught in it out of boredom.

So yes, this was Obama's fault.
:D

/Tongue-in-cheek

All this really means is a temporary stoppage in Twinkie distribution in the US before some other company buys the brand and restarts production. Probably in a non-union shop combined with better management so they can maximize profits. It's not that Hostess' products weren't selling: it was that they were unable to be profitable through a combination of bad management and union power (which in the end is the result of bad management: any industry where the union has that much power has had bad management at some point).
 

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Union employees refused to make concessions and single-handedly put 18,500 people out of work. Well done lads!
You forgot to mention that while asking the unions for big concessions, management recieved pay increases of up to 80%. Also, part of the reason for failure was the company's inability to adapt to a changing marketplace, indicating poor leadership(management). I don't deny concessions were needed to keep the company viable, but I think blame can also be assigned to non-unionized staff.
 

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You forgot to mention that while asking the unions for big concessions, management recieved pay increases of up to 80%. Also, part of the reason for failure was the company's inability to adapt to a changing marketplace, indicating poor leadership(management). I don't deny concessions were needed to keep the company viable, but I think blame can also be assigned to non-unionized staff.
everone was going to take a pay cut even the execs.....but the unions said no even though hostess recently filed chapter 11. the union was also offered 25% ownership of the company which they also turned down.
 

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You forgot to mention that while asking the unions for big concessions, management recieved pay increases of up to 80%. Also, part of the reason for failure was the company's inability to adapt to a changing marketplace, indicating poor leadership(management).
Incompetent management remains the Number 1 reasons companies go under!
Blaming unions though is a fav way lame managers have of deflecting blame away from themselves!
We all know how inept corporations and their lap-puppy apologists love shifting blame from their own sorry arses to anyone else....:rolleyes:
 

mrsCALoki

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Ha ha ha.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...feb-11e2-af17-67abba0676e2_story.html?hpid=z4

I guess somebody might buy up the rights in the U.S. but it seems like consumers there no longer have quite the same hankering for Twinkies, Ho Ho's, Ding Dongs and even the iconic Wonder Bread.

Fortunately the rights in Canada are owned by cheese maker Saputo and the domestic supply appears safe.
OH MY God !!!

I read that in the 30s Canadians made a bundle smuggling bear etc into the Us to feed their cravings.

You can do it again with Twinkies and Ding Dongs!

A job opportunity for some Terb members to make hobbying money.
 

S.C. Joe

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http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-host...th-liquidation-plan-20121116,0,7664327.column

Hostess employees react as company moves forward with liquidation plan

Hostess Brands employees who have been on strike remained outside the company's Indianapolis bakery Friday night even after company officials said they are moving forward with a liquidation of their assets.

The well-known company had warned protesting members of the bakers union that they would face the consequences if their work disruption continued.

"I got the phone call this morning at 5:30, 540 this morning that we were actually done," said Kevin Townsend, a driver who's been with the company for 30 years. He is a member of another union that accepted the companies' terms regarding pay and benefits.

Townsend's pay was cut three times in recent years.

"This one, they actually quit paying the pension, we took a big hit on healthcare as far as insurance, and they reduced our wages by eight percent," he said.

That is part of the reason why the bakers union organized pickets outside Hostess locations across the county beginning last Friday.

"We had no choice. We couldn't give it up to them so they could pocket the money," said Jeff Ruff, a Hostess employee and member of the bakers union.
 

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I was never a fan of twinkies even as a kid. I preferred the Hostess cupcakes
 
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