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LikeRedHeads

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women should have sex with who they want. this is a business where consent or lack thereof can really mess things up. i don't know why the no black men deal exists and i don't care.
Most SPs would have sex with blacks no problem; it's the pimps who don't like that. What you read on BP is most of the time (especially for younger SPs) written by the pimp, so the SP preference has nothing to do with that.
 

John Gilbunni

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you got evidence of that? if it's the pimps pushing that narrative, then you can't call the sps racist. are you implying the pimps putting up the ads are black? or racist?
 

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As far a my comments go, I never wrote them in a racist or derogatory manner, if someone decided to read them in that tone, that's more inside their head than what was written. Those were the reasons one sp gave.

And if you were there, her tone didn't have any malice, it was a simple answer to a direct question, nowadays unfortunately one can hardly speak of a minority without immidiately being crucified and labeled a racist.

To be honest, at least from my perspective it seemed the sp was making a business decision, she chooses to not to see a peticular group, she chooses to avoid a certain type, and as a Profesional she chooses not to profit from that demographic.

I've not yet seen anyone shouting or calling out other sp's, because they request mature men only.

That's just my .02 cents.
 

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Pimps used to recruit girls on the streets who fled home, girls in schools who started using drugs but need the money to continue using drugs...etc. All this is time consuming, so a faster way of getting girls to work for them is to recruit them directly while they are on the prostitution market. Reason is simple: it takes less time and the benefit is immediate. This is the new trend for fast pimping money.

About 80% of ads in BP mention no black men. This is a relatively new trend of about 6 to 8 years ago and possibly coincide with black pimps starting to steal girls from other pimps.
I currently regularly partake in gangbangs. About 10% of the girls in the gangbangs mention no black men. There is a reason for this; black pimps can't come to the GB and start harassing the girl in front of everybody to recruit her. SPs know the pimps don't come to GB to recruit and therefore accept black men in GBs (same girls mention no black men when in solo). The truth is SPs are not more racist than the general population, and I tend to say that SPs are less racist than the general population because most of them (the younger ones anyway) have black pimps as boyfriends. So 80% of SPs racist? no way. That's only a business decision decided by the (black) pimp and expressed in the ad. You should read the article about the interview with (black) pimps.
 
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John Gilbunni

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can we make an agreement? if one of us links up with an sp with the no black guys caveat, can we ask them why they feel that way? post-coitius? maybe we can find out.
 

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I never used to see ads saying no black men around 5 years ago when I started to hobby. I didn't give it a seconds thought and was never turned away. The last year to 1.5 years and the ads mentioning it have dramatically increased. To be honest I couldn't care less. Saves me the hassle of getting turned away at the door. The only awkward bit is that I now ask every SP I'm about to see whether she's cool with seeing black men.
 

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from what ive heard, when you see "no blk men" usually means that they've had a pimp in the past and are afraid that they may get suckered into another one.

but that's what ive heard, could be mistaken
 

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Assuming that you're a black guy yourself, then I assume that you're also probably a bit of polite mild-mannered type like the rest of us on here, not the loudmouth pimping type, does that still affect your ability to see an SP? If the SP hears you on the phone, they'll likely realize that you're no pimping threat, I'm guessing.
Yeah I'm black. I'm a clean cut and educated guy. I'm not going to plead with someone who explicitly doesn't want to see black men to have sex with me though, I just don't bother with them. There's more than enough out there for me to have my fun.
 

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lol poolasaurus...but getting back to the thread - yes I have heard ebony sp's speak many of the reasons offered here for why they put in that restriction. One did tell me how she had her uncle show up at the door once (she cancelled on him and refused to open the door) - and so, she felt given that the black community was considerably smaller, that restriction would reduce the chances of a family member popping in again. So one more reason to throw into the mix. My thoughts are that at the end of the day, these ladies are offering their most intimate selves in this line of work. Thus, whatever the reason they may give, or may actually feel but won't articulate, I give them the widest latitude to state their preferences.
 
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By coincidence I had an appointment with an SP last night that was cancelled at the last minute due to an altercation she had earlier in the evening with another "client". She was robbed, threatened and badly shaken up. It was is is why she advertises no black men. No offence meant to black clients, but a few bad apples predating on indies is why this is becoming a commonly posted term and ruining it for nice, legit clients like shadow_red.
Being an SP is not for the faint of heart, I don't envy these girls. Such an intimate service that I don't fault any SP for restricting anyone for any reason. Another thing that many asian SP have told me over the years is that they will not see middle eastern and/or Indian guys as many of them mistreat women and abuse them. I once saw an asian SP right after one of these guys "hurt" her, it wasn't pretty. Since it is hard to tell if someone is a "good" or "bad" client they ban the groups with highest risk. Smart move I say, they need to look out for themselves.
 

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Lately I've been getting a sense that the Ottawa market for SP's is not so attractive because of unsavoury client's. The reason's aren't specific, but they won't tour Ottawa due to bad experiences, cancelled tours mid-stream, been robbed, threatened, managed, and a host of other likely very legitimate reasons. I'm not saying everything is doom and gloom, but certainly there's a trend, whether the incidents are increasing or people are more vocal. I'll see if I can find some of the links and add the references here, (though some may have been deleted)

By coincidence I had an appointment with an SP last night that was cancelled at the last minute due to an altercation she had earlier in the evening with another "client". She was robbed, threatened and badly shaken up. It was is is why she advertises no black men. No offence meant to black clients, but a few bad apples predating on indies is why this is becoming a commonly posted term and ruining it for nice, legit clients like shadow_red.
Hi guys...
You guys are all right. The last day in Ottawa I was VERY tired. I also had to deal with some mean clients so it definitely got to me.
Story time.
Back to my question. Is that giving an attitude? Because from the bottom of my heart, I don't think so. I don't understand why people see escorting as "less" than something. It is still a business, and I run it as professionally as I can: No meeting up without a booking, without the person knowing the do's and donts and no "bending the rules" because you are clean, good looking, rich etc. Therefore if you are being vague about something, I will want it as clear as possible, so there ano surprises later on.

But if I'm wrong, let me know. I won't agree or argue back, but at least I will be able to see another P.O.V. :)
From Charlotte Edwards:
"In fact a lot of my Toronto girlfriends are put off of touring Ottawa anymore because of the attitude they receive from guys in Ottawa about rates"

The list goes on; a provider from Kingston won't visit Ottawa anymore, there was a duo team that left mid-tour and won't return, the Alma threads are gone now, but she was not pleased with some client behaviour....

It is what it is and just my 2 cents
 
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fmahovalich

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We had many threads on this issue. There was an article cited in one of the threads where a researcher did some interviews with pimps. The conclusion is that the pimps (most of them black, and this is true also for Ottawa) don't like other potential pimps to steal "their" girls; so they write the ad the way they like it. BY eliminating the black they eliminate a large probability that a pimp may steal their girls. Most of the time the girl has no say about the ad. Also, I was told that the pimps always choose hotels which have door "eyes" so that the SP doesn't open the door to a potential black pimp.
This is by far the MAIN reason why so many SPs don't like to see black people. The other reasons are very minimal. If it wasn't for the pimp issue, almost all SPs would see black.

I agree that black pimps (and white pimps also) are disrespectful, rude, violent and have a bad attitude in general. But most black people, in Canada at least, that I know are university educated, polite and very knowledgeable about a lot of things. I have met on several occasions black men during gangbangs and they were all respectful and courteous with the SPs.
Now that pretty funny right there !!!!!
 

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I posted this a couple of years ago - interviews with pimps.

Adding to the charm of all this is is the testimony of several pimps that they also forbid their sex workers to speak to black men, out of a suspicion that the black men are themselves necessarily just looking to pimp these girls out. "It's basically no black men. Most of the time the other black men were other guys who were trying to pimp on them or take advantage of them. Try to rape them or something like that," said one.
 

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I always found it amusing whenever I used to see drooling threads about touring girls coming to town. I always said, what's wrong with just sticking to local girls? I've always had good relationships with them, and they always liked me, and eventually with a local girl, you often get discounts and extra value services thrown in for free. You'll never get that with touring girls.
Hear! Hear!
 

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Tia's ad (a black lady) specifically mentions no black men under 30. I'm guessing its not because she's racist or because of a pimp. I wonder what the main reason would then be?
 

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Tia's ad (a black lady) specifically mentions no black men under 30. I'm guessing its not because she's racist or because of a pimp. I wonder what the main reason would then be?
My hunch is its probably to avoid a potential pimp. Most pimps tend to be younger in their twenties.
 
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