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News reports - Trump pulling U.S. out of Paris climate deal

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Assuming these reports are true, this is a great day for the U.S.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...of-paris-climate-deal-report/article35160411/

Unlike Canada and other western nations, Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris climate accord means the U.S. will have the most rational energy policies to be found anywhere in the free world.

The Paris climate accord sets targets that are damaging to the world's economy while having no impact whatsoever on the future of the planet. It is totally misguided and Trump is right to end the charade.
 

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Climate change - ceding world leadership to China.

Pulling out of the TPP - ceding strategic, geopolitical leadership to China.

Europe and NATO - dispensing of democracy and ceding strategic, geopolitical to Russia.

All in a few short months.
 

IM469

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Assuming these reports are true, this is a great day for the U.S.
You really haven't a clue. No business sense just a Trump hat covering your eyes and ears ...

Hundreds Of U.S. Businesses Urge Trump To Uphold Paris Climate Deal Link: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...esses-urge-trump-to-uphold-paris-climate-deal

Energy Companies Urge Trump To Remain In Paris Climate Agreement Link: http://www.npr.org/2017/05/18/52899...ge-trump-to-remain-in-paris-climate-agreement

CEOs of Major U.S. Companies Urge Trump: Stay in Paris Link: http://bteam.org/announcements/30-major-ceos-call-on-trump-stay-in-paris/

U.S. Companies to Trump: Don’t Abandon Global Climate Deal Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/...mp-dont-abandon-global-climate-deal.html?_r=0

More Than 600 Companies Urge Trump Not To Renege On Climate Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ange-trump-letter_us_5873ebe5e4b099cdb0fede62

Big business wants Trump to stick with Paris climate accord Link : http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/29/news/trump-paris-climate-change-business/

U.S. Business Leaders Send Open Letter To Trump: 'Don't Abandon Climate Deal' Link : https://www.forbes.com/sites/victor...trump-dont-abandon-climate-deal/#121c59157574

There are 195 countries in an agreement with optional quotas - a huge business opportunity plus a chance for sustained US international leadership. When US is gone who wins - Oh Yeah ! Putin !

Wake up ! Trump is an incompetent catastrophic cluster f*ck (or one hell of a Russian agent)
 

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From the self-proclaimed "greatest President EVER and the most awesome world leader EVER!' to .......

...... 'worst LOSER President EVER and the most ridiculed, lame-shamed and laughingstock LOSER worldwide EVER'.
 

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Hilarious that we have a climate change framework that even the CEOs of energy companies think it's a good idea but Trump's still against it.

He's a kook.
 

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Assuming these reports are true, this is a great day for the U.S.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...of-paris-climate-deal-report/article35160411/

Unlike Canada and other western nations, Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris climate accord means the U.S. will have the most rational energy policies to be found anywhere in the free world.

The Paris climate accord sets targets that are damaging to the world's economy while having no impact whatsoever on the future of the planet. It is totally misguided and Trump is right to end the charade.
This is the best news yet today.
 

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....for Democrats. Yes this is the best news today but have you watched any of the interviews with Rep House members? Lol they're facked!
They are ass-fucked by Trumpcare and face-fucked by Trump's War on the Environment. So now they are fucked front and back.
 

Anbarandy

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They are ass-fucked by Trumpcare and face-fucked by Trump's War on the Environment. So now they are fucked front and back.
McMaster really should walk 'his' talk and confront The Unhinged One.

Wrap him up in a straight jacket and lock him up in the WH boiler room
 

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McMaster really should walk 'his' talk and confront The Unhinged One.

Wrap him up in a straight jacket and lock him up in the WH boiler room
http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...master-step-downand-let-trump-be-trump-215199
uring the presidential transition, when a friend called me to discuss whether he should accept a national security post in the Trump administration, I advised him to do so. My thinking was that the more mature, thoughtful people we had in the administration, the better.

But over the last two weeks, I have come to think I was wrong. I no longer believe in the “adults in the room” theory of containing President Trump and the similarly erratic and ignorant people around him.

The prime reason I have come to believe I was wrong was the experience of watching Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, Trump’s second national security adviser, make a series of statements. On the evening of Monday, May 15, he appeared before cameras at the White House to respond to a Washington Post article reporting that the president had shared sensitive intelligence about terrorism with Russian visitors. This information was sufficiently detailed, some intelligence officials feared, that it might enable interested parties to determine the source of that intelligence.

Not so, said General McMaster. “The story that came out tonight as reported is false,” he stated emphatically.

The next day, he appeared again before the cameras. This time his line was: “the premise of that article is false—that in any way the president had a conversation that was inappropriate or that resulted in any kind of lapse in national security.” That’s what people in Washington say when they can’t dispute the facts in a given article, but still dislike it.

On the president’s first foreign trip, McMaster has continued to defend Trump, for example, expressing over the weekend a lack of concern about reports that Trump’s son-in-law and confidant Jared Kushner sought to establish a secret, back-channel line of communication to the Russian government that would be hidden from the U.S. national security apparatus.

“We have backchannel communications with a number of countries,” McMaster said during a press availability in Italy. “What that allows you to do is communicate in a discreet manner, so I’m not concerned.”


Really? According to the Post’s story, which the White House did not dispute, “Kislyak reportedly was taken aback by the suggestion of allowing an American to use Russian communications gear at its embassy or consulate — a proposal that would have carried security risks for Moscow as well as the Trump team.” There’s no way that would be kosher. And so I fear that McMaster has confused protecting the president with protecting the country.

It saddens me to watch him do this. I’ve known McMaster since he was a major. He is an unusual officer. He has led troops in combat in two very different wars. He is one of our most thoughtful generals. And he wrote one of the best books about the Vietnam War, “Dereliction of Duty,” about the failures of senior American leaders during that war. Consider the two concluding sentences of that book: “The disaster in Vietnam was not the result of impersonal forces but a uniquely human failure, the responsibility for which was shared by President Johnson and his principal military and civilian advisers. The failings were many and reinforcing: arrogance, weakness, lying in the pursuit of self-interest, and, above all, the abdication of responsibility to the American people.”

McMaster also remains on active duty, which makes him subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. This holds him to a far higher standard of behavior than we have seen on videotape from Donald Trump. A military officer is required to tell the truth and shun conduct unbecoming of his or her position.

McMaster probably thinks that by staying at his post, rather than resigning in disgust, he is doing his duty. Specifically, he may think that if stepped down, he might well be succeeded by an alt-right ally of White House adviser Steve Bannon. As I said, I used to believe that too.

But I have watched and waited, and I don’t see McMaster improving Trump. Rather, what I have seen so far is Trump degrading McMaster. In fact, nothing seems to change Trump. He continues to stumble through his foreign policy—embracing autocrats, alienating allies and embarrassing Americans who understand that NATO has helped keep peace in Europe for more than 65 years.

Thinking over this, I worry that having people like McMaster around Trump simply enables Trump. Mature national security specialists seasoned in the ways of Washington simply lend an air of occasional competence to an otherwise shambolic White House. By appearing before the cameras, looking serious and speaking rationally, they add a veneer of normality to this administration. In the process, they tarnish their own good names.

So I think that McMaster should step down—not just for his own good, but for the good of the country. What if he is replaced by a right-wing extremist who operates on an alternative set of “facts”? So much the better, I say.

Here’s why: The saving grace of Donald Trump as president is his incompetence. He knows almost nothing of how the federal government works. He seems to have been repeatedly surprised by the checks and balances written into the Constitution by the Founding Fathers. And he seems uninterested in learning.

Effectively, we have no president. Rather, we have someone who plays the president on television and on Twitter. Aside from a few of his pet subjects, such as immigration, Trump seems to have almost no effect on the workings of the federal government. What we have seen is a demonstration that it is actually a fairly robust establishment. On Iran policy, for example, Defense Secretary James Mattis seems to chug along by himself, pursuing an approach that is basically a somewhat more aggressive version of President Barack Obama’s policy. An ideologue likely would be as ineffective as national security adviser as Trump has been as president, and that wouldn’t be a bad thing.

In my revised view, the less control Trump has over the federal government, the better. Think of it this way: Which would be more dangerous, a Mafia family overseen by the cruel and competent Michael Corleone, or one led by his ineffectual brother Fredo? So, I say, Let Donald be Donald
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Assuming these reports are true, this is a great day for the U.S.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...of-paris-climate-deal-report/article35160411/

Unlike Canada and other western nations, Trump's decision to pull out of the Paris climate accord means the U.S. will have the most rational energy policies to be found anywhere in the free world.

The Paris climate accord sets targets that are damaging to the world's economy while having no impact whatsoever on the future of the planet. It is totally misguided and Trump is right to end the charade.
Awesome..time to pop the champagne cord and make a toast to Donald Trump for getting out of Paris climate accord. $1.5 trillion dollar wasted on global warming. Now money can now be spent better thing like giving back the money to taxpayer or used it for finding a cure for cancer, AIDS, MS, Alzheimer's, etc..
 

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mandrill

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Awesome..time to pop the champagne cord and make a toast to Donald Trump for getting out of Paris climate accord. $1.5 trillion dollar wasted on global warming. Now money can now be spent better thing like giving back the money to taxpayer or used it for finding a cure for cancer, AIDS, MS, Alzheimer's, etc..
Or at least giving it back to the taxpayer, huh? Given how anti science Trump is.

And we know what "taxpayers" - or "tax non payers" perhaps we should say - will get the tax breaks. Oh that's right, Betsy DeVos's family, Rex Tillerson's family and all those other very, very rich people who essentially own the US.

Leaving aside the 97% consensus that you - in particular - are far from intellectually equipped to challenge, Porny.
 

mandrill

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There is a battle going on in the administration for the President's ear.

For a second, I misread your post and imagined that there was a battle going on between Kushner and Bannon for Trump's peach toupee. Whoever stole it first got to hide it and make the Old Man buy it back by agreeing to back their own PoV on climate change.
 

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Or at least giving it back to the taxpayer, huh? Given how anti science Trump is.

And we know what "taxpayers" - or "tax non payers" perhaps we should say - will get the tax breaks. Oh that's right, Betsy DeVos's family, Rex Tillerson's family and all those other very, very rich people who essentially own the US.

Leaving aside the 97% consensus that you - in particular - are far from intellectually equipped to challenge, Porny.
97% consensus is appeal by numbers. facts is not a democracy
 
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