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S.C. Joe

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The cops in my area carry 9 mm. They are loaded, taser, pepper spray, billy club, hand cuffs, bullet proof vests. Don't know how they can even run but they do catch some guys down on foot running.

At least last I knew they were 9 mm....things keep changing.
 

S.C. Joe

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Could not find Michigan but I did find about NY cops, yep 9 mm are WEAK! Heck, I thought those were the best...

http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/handguns/articles/1648163/

ALBANY, N.Y. — Following a year when a half-dozen troopers were shot, two fatally, State Police are getting stronger body armor and handguns and other new equipment. Acting Superintendent Preston Felton has ordered officers on patrol to wear the bullet-resistant vests that previously were optional.

"A police officer's job has always been inherently dangerous," Felton said yesterday. With 21st-century changes in technology and troopers working more in urban settings, the danger has evolved, he said.

Felton said he didn't know how much all the new equipment will cost. He acknowledged some items are expensive, but noted the governor and lawmakers have been supportive and if one life is saved, it's important.

Other equipment changes, following ongoing internal safety reviews and meetings with troopers' and investigators' unions, include .45-caliber handguns that have replaced the 9 mm sidearms. "It has, as a layman would say, more stopping power without sacrificing accuracy," Felton said.

Also, troopers are getting collapsible batons, 1,400 defibrillators for all marked patrol cars, light bars atop cars that include blue lights easier to see in fog, bright yellow reflective vests for highway investigations and directing traffic, fire suppression systems similar to those in race cars in all new Crown Victorias, and two Bearcat armored vehicles. He said the defibrillators cost $1,200 to $1,400 apiece and the Bearcats cost $225,000 to $250,000 each.

Felton also acknowledged some of the 4,900 troopers, investigators and higher-ranking officers may choose not to follow the requirement he issued a few months ago that they wear body armor in the field, but new stronger vests are being issued to all of them. Members of the Mobile Response Team are getting heavier armor, with pieces that detach, making them more comfortable.

Two members of the MRT were fatally shot, one by friendly fire, in 2006 and 2007.

Following reviews of incidents where shots were fired, State Police have instituted some new policies and procedures, including how to approach a stopped vehicle, more command training for officers and changes in MRT operations, which Felton didn't specify.

Felton couldn't say whether any of the measures would have changed the way past incidents unfolded. Among the deaths was trooper David Brinkerhoff, who was killed April 25 after a shootout in a rural farmhouse in Delaware County that also killed gunman Travis Trim and wounded trooper Richard Mattson.
 

blackdog

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It not really a very scary gun. Not accurate. Very low stopping power. Yes it is a gun and can kill, buts its not as deadly as a 9mm or a .45 or a 50 cal. desert eagle. That sun article is just an attempt at being sensational.
 

gdurham

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If I had a choice of facing a 9mm handgun which the criminals so abundantly have and this Judge, I would rather face the judge. Buckshot from a 410 cant even kill a rat at 10 feet.

Tell ya what cowboy, let me load that bad-boy up with some .410 shells and see what I can do at 10 feet. I guar-ran-tee it will do the job. I have used a .410 in the field for some time and at 10 feet it is not to be messed with.
 

frankcastle

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Took 3 pages for someone to finally mention the desert eagle.

There's an example of a handgun that uses 50 calibre bullets.

Yeah the idea of a revolver that carreis 5 rounds because the bullets are too big to carry 6 is a neat idea. And yeah the bullets are big. But if you ask me to scare someone with a handgun my choice would have to be the DE. Why it carries even bigger bullets and 7 in the cartridge (+1 more in the chamber?!).

I suppose one could argue that the judge weighs (2lbs) less than a DE (3 lbs) and it's shorter (9"ish vs 10"ish) so it might be a bit easier to conceal. And being a revolver there's no risk of jamming.

Anyways, this is pure TO Sun sensationalistic journalism reporting on old news and missing out that there are already handguns that fire bigger rounds. And if you want to talk about gangsta appeal there are plenty of movies that show of 50 cal, 45 cal and 357 cal bullets already.

Who wants to bother explaining to someone why their gun is scarey rather than pull out a gun that's featured in movies.
 

frankcastle

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't shotguns lose effectiveness with shorter barrels?

I mean the shorter the barrel the wider the spray so I guess it's easier to hit something. But if you hit the target with less buckshot won't the damage be less?

So I think I'd rather hit and cause one big hole rather than a bunch of small holes.
 

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LordLoki said:
Wow!!!! those buggers are fast!! Well done!
What he did not tell you it was poping out of GB's butt
 

LordLoki

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What he did not tell you it was poping out of GB's butt

So you were there and saw the heric act?

Why were you looking at GB's ass????

I heard about hamsters up asses but never ground hogs.
 

papasmerf

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LordLoki said:
So you were there and saw the heric act?

Why were you looking at GB's ass????

I heard about hamsters up asses but never ground hogs.
it's all about my futrue rug........................I want that mangy beast for decoration:p
 

S.C. Joe

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You know, I think I see if I can add USA to my handle.
 
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