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FalconHawk

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Sheik; Don't apologize. You make some good points. I, for one, being a lawyer, abhor the former Young Offenders Act and everything it stands for. I also hate most of the legislation this country enacts. Yet, you have to take into consideration what society would be like if we were not here. To paraphrase Shakespeare, let's kill all the lawyers. In context, you do it to induce anarchy!!!!!!
 

FalconHawk

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But, Shiek, what is greed? My sister and brother-in- law are both physicians. One is a specialist and the other a G.P.. They are both leaving Canada because they are not making enough money. The lower biller gets, in after tax $ over $350,000. The higher, close to $1,000,000.. I do not here physicians being panned!! Just lawyers. Which goes to my question, what has greed got to do with the tea in China?
 

Duckman

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FalconHawk said:
And the Americans are the most successful civilization in the history of Man. And the economy of California is MUCH MUCH bigger than that of Canada.
Do you believe that these are the result of having a directly-elected president instead of an indirectly-elected preem? I think there are much bigger factors in play.
 

FalconHawk

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Of course there are bigger factors in play; however, the American system, in my view, produces good results, on balance, and with exceptions. More than anything, the success of the Americans is due to a very different philosophy than is prevelent in this country.
 

FalconHawk

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Shiek, I am not sure what to say. Let's take the easiest first. I agree with you, actors and wrestlers may very well make the better politicians. If you look at my earlier comments I think you will see I supported this proposition. In fact I initiated it, I think.

EVERYTHING you said in your 3rd paragraph applies equally to lawyers. What are you trying to say.
 

SmegHead

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FalconHawk said:
Of course there are bigger factors in play; however, the American system, in my view, produces good results, on balance, and with exceptions. More than anything, the success of the Americans is due to a very different philosophy than is prevelent in this country.
Ha! Pick your poison: the system that elected Bush or the one that elected Cretien. The result is the same. Both are utterly corrupt!
 

FalconHawk

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A successful President? A person who can acquire, sustain and maintain power and act for the common good of his or her people. Regan brought power to the people, diminished gov't and transferred the benefit to the average American, as much as possible. Consider the state of events under the Carter administration; an unmitigated disaster on all fronts. An exceptional leader will restore and maintain a national self-esteem., which Regan did. It is what is truly important as a nation and as an individual.
 

FalconHawk

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Shiek

Lawyers did not draft the old Young Offenders Act, politicians did.

I went on national television in an attempt to fight it and refute its principles.

I think I have "a feel" for what you are trying to say but your categorical propositions are getting you into trouble. May I say that "I think" I agree with you on many points.
 

FalconHawk

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In General

Why not get back to the original discourse? This government, (the pre-election one) I suspect, is going to stink, just like the last. What can we do to change this? What will you do? Do you want more of the same old, same old? Or are you willing to fight to make Canada what it could be?

This has got to be one of the most under achieving nations on earth, given its wealth and circumstances. Anyone want somehting to do with changing this, or do we deserve the label of being a nation of sheep?
 

FalconHawk

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Sheik

Well, I need not guess. It is not lawyers per se. It is just a tough business. Anyway, good luck. And I have not taken it personally. I am too old and experienced for that. I just wish you well and enjoyed the reparte with you.
 

The Fruity Hare

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In France and other European countries, when the government makes what is considered an unpopular decision mid term(Poll tax for example), people take to the streets to show their frusration and strength.
People in Canada seem to always want someone else to do the demonstrating for them, and the government can get away with murder knowing this. There is no accountability here. "What's a billion?" Cretien says. Then another billion on the gun registry. And $500 million in cancellation fees for the helicopters.

$2.5 BILLION dollars, and we have nothing to show for it. It makes me sick. How many hospitals could have been built, schools, etc...?

And going back to a point brought up by someone earlier, about this government having a balanced budget 5 years in a row. Part of this was because of overcharging companies for employment insurance, then instead of returning it to the the employers, using it to fund their favourite projects. Reducing transfers to the provinces also put billions back in the general revenue coffers, so the provinces downloaded the cost to the cities.
So, we end up paying twice. Once in EI premiums that are too high, then lower levels of government trying to make up the transfer payment loss off our backs with user fees and other taxes.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to matter who is in power, they all end up arrogant with power and feel they can act with impunity. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Quite sad really, for all the working people out there trying to make ends meet only to be told we need to buckle up and pay higher taxes or they will reduce services(McGuinty) We already pay Cadillac prices for Lada service.
When was the last time we ever heard good news from any level of government? Just before an election so they can promise us the moon, and then pull the rug out from under us after they are in.

It is to weep.
 

FalconHawk

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I knew guys like you were out there!!!!! But, back to my question or proposition. What do we do? There is no question we need electoral reform and a way to boot the P.M. out without a no confidence vote. But how do we, as a nation, effectively CHANGE things. We do have to stop bitching and DO SOMETHING.
 
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