New Camaro

What do you think of the new Camaro

  • Beautiful car, I want one, nice to see GM building cars like this again

    Votes: 7 12.1%
  • I love Pony cars - Mustangs, Challenger, Camaros, Charger - I might buy one

    Votes: 9 15.5%
  • Beautiful car, it would turn my head, but I doubt I'd buy one

    Votes: 11 19.0%
  • I'd prefer a BMW or Lexus myself, but it would still turn my head

    Votes: 6 10.3%
  • I could care less either way

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • This car highlights everything that is so wrong with GM

    Votes: 16 27.6%
  • It's a dinosaur

    Votes: 8 13.8%

  • Total voters
    58
*sigh*

Brings back memories of my 68 ..... wasn't the best, fastest or coolest car I ever owned but it sure was a chick magnet ...... had lots of good quality tail partly due to the Camaro :p
 
iamme said:
How about the Datsun 240Z ???

In my original post, I said "Fairlady" which is the correct name for the 240 Z.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datsun_240Z

It's the only Japanese car that comes close, however, in my humble opinion, does not achieve classic status.

The Fairlady is basically a copy of a Triumph TR6, right down to the straight 6 (2.4 litres, vs. the TR6's 2.5 litres), The CD (Constant Depression) dual carbs (TR6 using Zenith Strombergs, the Fairlady using Hitachi CD carbs) the rear end, hydraulic clutch, everything in the Fairlady was copied from the British.

The look is also distinctly British (Jaguar-esque)

Copy copy copy.

That's all the Japanese did then, and frankly, they still do it today, only instead of copying the British, they now copy the Germans.

The Japanese build slick reliable cars, but, they have NEVER been innovators.
 
I don't see a lot of "Big three" making a lot of collector cars these days either. (Again I am not a car guy... I do like the Viper.)

The Japenese are smart, they make quality/dependable cars that appeal to the masses at a "reasonable price". The sort of thing that made G.M./Ford/Crysler popular back in the day.
 
iamme said:
How about the Datsun 240Z ???

A great car, but hardly "original" in the styling dept:o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250_GTO

As james t kirk pointed out, the Japanese were great copiers back then.

That said, I believe they've come a LONG way. IMO the Nissan GT-R looks distinctly Japanese.

... and I wouldn't exactly hold up CHRIS BANGLE'S modern BMW's as paragons of great design. No point in the Japanese copying them from a design perspective, although BMW's are still the ultimate driving machine.

As for the original question RE: Pony Cars

I'm kind of ambivalent about them in general. I liked the styling of the new Mustang, then I drove one. Let's just say I'd have been much happier with the discontinued SVT Focus...

GM's future (even sports cars) will ultimately be in smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles, although they may have to be dragged there kicking and screaming.
 
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