New Camaro

[james t kirk]

Despite record-high gas prices and production and work force cuts, General Motors still has a soft spot for muscle cars.

GM's Chevrolet unveiled its 2010 Camaro Monday, bringing back to life the iconic sports car it retired in 2002.

GM says the new Camaro, which will be assembled in Oshawa, Ont., is expected to get roughly nine litres per 100 kilometres.

It will hit showrooms early next year.

GM will offer the Camaro with V-6, 3.6-litre engines in its LS and LT models, along with V-8-powered, 6.2-litre engines in its SS model.

Billed as a "fun, efficient sports car for the 21st century," GM hopes the new Camaro will appeal to enthusiasts and younger buyers.

GM has struggled amid record gas prices, a weak consumer environment and an unprecedented flight from trucks and SUV's in favour of more fuel-efficient sedans and crossovers.

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/07/22/newcamaro.html

 

[james t kirk]

Just curious to everyone's thoughts on the new Camaro.

My personal opinion is that I love pony cars. It's one of the few things that North American manufacturers do well. I find Mustangs, Camaros, and the new Challengers very interesting designs.

To me, they are fun cars, not day to day drivers, but something you buy if you enjoy the art of the automobile and appreciate the fun that comes with driving a car like a Mustang or a Camaro.

I'm a car guy though and through, always have been since I was a kid. I've never had any formal mechanical training, but I can pretty much tear apart and rebuild any car. (And I've done several engine rebuilds, and 2 frame off restorations.) As such, I would have a very hard time having just some "sensible car" as my sole means of transportation. I've never been strictly an A to B kind of car driver.

 

[blueman]

this car is hot. but it may be too late ... would you buy one?

http://www.thetorquereport.com/gm_camaro_prototypesmall.jpg

https://www.msu.edu/~stonewil/Camaro.JPG

would you buy one?

 

[dajodo2]

Out of Detroit's newest versions of the American pony car I like the Challenger the best.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_wHESMaFSXPc/R650K0aIkkI/AAAAAAAAB_4/kr-WXdzoN2I/IMG_0079.JPG

That picture is from the Detroit autoshow.

If you look closely there's an asian PR guy from honda HQ who appears to be jacking off at the sight of the new Challenger.

 

[LateComer]

I voted that it is a beautiful car but I wouldn't buy one because I already have a pony car, a 2006 Mustang GT. I actually find it to be reasonably practical for a sporty car. I can squeeze a person or two in the backseat for short drives. The rear seats also fold down and I have transported 2X4s in it. I even have a trailer hitch (egads!) and have moved furniture etc. I only have room on my driveway for one car so the Mustang has to serve as my commuter vehicle, fun car, and practical hauler.

 

[Berlin]

http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/07/22/newcamaro.html

Like it... won't buy it.

 

[DistantVoyeur]

Don't like it. It's supposed to be a tribute to first generation Camaro's. It ain't.

Maybe change my mind once I see one in real life, but the styling cues from the 60's cars do not display well on this body style. My personal thoughts.

Hope it sells well, I've always been a Camaro fan, but this looks like a miss to me.

 

[Mongrel4u]

Not an American car fan at all...rather have a sports car over a muscle car....and I'm sick and tired of the American's "throw back" styling...sheesh give it a rest; that said it is the best looking camaro thus far which should give you a good indication what I thought of the older models

 

[lewd]

Not a fan either...plus the Japanese would make this thing just as fast with double the fuel efficiency, and way better reliability.

 

[babyfinsta]

Not an American car fan at all...rather have a sports car over a muscle car....and I'm sick and tired of the American's "throw back" styling...sheesh give it a rest; that said it is the best looking camaro thus far which should give you a good indication what I thought of the older models

i agree w u Mongrel. i am not a fan of muscle cars myself. Will GM be coming out with a new mullet style to go w the car?

 

[Mongrel4u]

Not a fan either...plus the Japanese would make this thing just as fast with double the fuel efficiency, and way better reliability.

and quicker around a track as well.

 

[herames]

YUCK...its for guys who don't have any charm...another BS car to advertise through "Transformers" film franchise.

 

[hunter001]

I am not a car guy and I wouldn't buy this car. I do think it looks nice. I don't think it will sell enough to justify bringing the car back. I think GM should focus on cars with a wider appeal, then going for a niche market car.

 

[james t kirk]

Not a fan either...plus the Japanese would make this thing just as fast with double the fuel efficiency, and way better reliability.

I disagree. Many Japanese cars are huge gas pigs - like mine (G35). Terrible mileage, but those horsepower only come from one source - gasoline.

Reliable, yes, faster and more fuel efficient. Doubt it.

The Japanese make good cars, but let's be honest, they are copy cats. They copy European styling (BMW, Audi), and they copy, then perfect teveryone else's engineering. (Way back when, they copied British Engineering - the original civics were nothing more than reskinned Moris Minors. They took the British Engineering and ran with it. Later they copied the German and to a much lesser extent, the American Engineering.

There is not one Japanese car that I can think of which has "classic" potential. Even the old Datsun Fairlady is a long way from classic. You won't be seeing any Lexus, Infiniti, or Accura on Barret Jackson in 40 years time. I can assure you of that. Contrast to the old North American iron, and the European / British.

I just don't see ANY Japanese product EVER becoming a classic.

 

[JD75]

I disagree. Many Japanese cars are huge gas pigs - like mine (G35). Terrible mileage, but those horsepower only come from one source - gasoline.

Reliable, yes, faster and more fuel efficient. Doubt it.

The Japanese make good cars, but let's be honest, they are copy cats. They copy European styling (BMW, Audi), and they copy, then perfect teveryone else's engineering. (Way back when, they copied British Engineering - the original civics were nothing more than reskinned Moris Minors. They took the British Engineering and ran with it. Later they copied the German and to a much lesser extent, the American Engineering.

There is not one Japanese car that I can think of which has "classic" potential. Even the old Datsun Fairlady is a long way from classic. You won't be seeing any Lexus, Infiniti, or Accura on Barret Jackson in 40 years time. I can assure you of that. Contrast to the old North American iron, and the European / British.

I just don't see ANY Japanese product EVER becoming a classic.

Maybe not Japanese, but the Koreans have a classic in their catalogue. I just saw a 1985 Hyundai Pony go for $234,000us at auction.

 

[S.C. Joe]

Its OK but I rather have a motor with a carb, headers, no computers....now if money was no problem, I rip it apart, put a bench seat in front, a real fire breathing motor. I also put in a killer stereo--something you can still hear with a loud exhaust and the windows all open at high speeds.

And the gas mileage might be more like nine litres per 10 kilometres

Then again I could just buy a 1969 Camaro..

 

[S.C. Joe]

GM did drop the ball once again...this should have came out in 2003..

 

[castaniabrucciatta]

It's not bad; but I'd rather 'pony' (pun intended...) the extra bucks for this,

http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/gm_models.html

and have a 'new' '69 Camaro.

Make mine an honest 500HP BigBlock (crate motor that runs on 91 Octane fuel) with a Tremec 5 spd with 4:11.

16s up front and 18s out back.

DSE front subframe, mini wheel tubs, killer stance, etc.

Retro is nice but the original in this case is much better.

CB

 

[JD75]

You gotta be kidding !!! I have some swamp land I'd like to sell to that guy

I'll let you guess.

 

[KWI]

Out of Detroit's newest versions of the American pony car I like the Challenger the best.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_wHESMaFSXPc/R650K0aIkkI/AAAAAAAAB_4/kr-WXdzoN2I/IMG_0079.JPG

That picture is from the Detroit autoshow.

If you look closely there's an asian PR guy from honda HQ who appears to be jacking off at the sight of the new Challenger.

You mean this: