need help with a dilemma.

Insidious Von

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If you have a real talent with cosmetics there is an occupation you could make a very good living at...a mortician.

{dodging incoming eggs}

Wait a minute! The cost of a decent funeral has tripled in the last five years; people are taking out insurance policies just to insure their descendants are not left indebted. Yes it's morbid work and not everyone can do it, but if you have the fortitude and the talent, you'll be set for life. I know a mortician who moonlights as a stand up comic; he drives a BMW 321i with a license plate that says "Stiffs R Us".

{running and ducking incoming eggs}
 
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~ EXQUISITE ~ said:
Sorry... The Cunning Linguist, I couldn't resist.

As someone who was in human resources eons ago, I do agree with you wholeheartedly.

Minnie, you have a lot of good advice here...best of luck with your dreams and plans.

Cheers,
Vanessa
I wondered if anyone would catch it.....:D
 

raven@mirage

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and also i fogot to add I am relizing my dream is more of being a midwife, and having an alternative healing background it might be esthetician.
 

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As someone who was in human resources eons ago, .
Aren't you still in human resources? :D
 
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No....

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See that you jaded fuck MLAM;)... hse's further ahead than you thought!
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...not really.

Like I said, spent several years listening to people tell me what they were GOING to do, and making the mistake of believing them. Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.

Show me accomplishments, not intentions. In this case...it would be the H.S. diploma that is the basis for any of this. Not sure why a H.S. degree would be eight years and counting in the making when I've known people who were about business complete their H.S. equivalent in less than a year while working full time and taking care of kids, but me thinks that is the sort of "past behavior" that will be a predictor of the future.

I've heard different versions of all this before...the whole "my dream" and "my passion" and "people who believe in me" and "no negativity" thing. These are all buzz words used by people who aren't able to say "this is what I've done". Because people who have a plan don't talk about dreams, people who are committed don't need anyone to believe in them, and people who have a track record for doing what they say they are going to do and accomplishing their goals don't get negativity, they get support. "Negativity" is the human response of people who are sick of your shit. Show me someone who has "negativity" in their life and I will show you someone who has worn out their welcome with a BUNCH of people...who now give them "negativity".

Sorry...my bullshit detectors are quite sensitive and jaded....from experience. And they are still ringing.
 
You can apply directly as a mature student to post secondary for most programs, assuming you believe you've got the HS fundamentals & princples to surpass their tests.

I'm perhaps in a somewhat similiar scenario. I graduated HS faster than most of my peers 97-01. However, I always had medicore academic results no better than Cs and Ds. I relied on assignments/essays, cause I hate/suck at tests & never fully understood material being taught. These were social science courses mind you, nevermind with the sciences & maths(forget CALC, I plateau'd at gr12 math.) I knew I sucked with barely passing, got my 32credits, & enrolled in a college/uni joint program hoping to redeem myself from HS. Turns out it was even tougher, they gave you lectures, minimal assignments, purely tests/exams. Went on probation, then to ANOTHER college, same shit, tougher than the previous one. Never went back ever since. 3rd yr out of post secondary this fall.... I then pursued www.ilc.org for "family issues" & still only got a flippin 55-60%.........

Pupils I knew that stayed behind a yr in HS, or even mature students/skippers are now ahead of me 6yrs later, if not just a general diploma, or a nice shiny shulich degree/pursed grad school.

Currently occupied with mickey mouse jobs(easy, I love it), but unforunately low pay. Getting your mind thinking again is one aspect, but resuming school for the sake of it will result in what I've experienced.

As for careers vs jobs, average canadian worker bee, job or career does not exceed 40-50k/yr or $20-25/hr. Which some jobs can give you, with long enough seniority. The more professional careers obviously exceed that.

Cheers
 

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I'd say go to school and get the skills to do a job you'll not only enjoy (which usually means a job that doesn't make you want to hang yourself) but can make a decent living at, 40K + a year. Watch out for careers that are unproven over time. Ditch the porn career as soon as you can.

Also:

Drink your milk
Eat your greens
Keep on smilin :)

*Edit: Jesus Christ your only 22!
 

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I don't have any intention of ditching the porn career anytime soon since that is the stepping stone of keeping me fiancial alive. it will not be done until I have my midwifery degree. so that is going to stay for a long while.

until there is something else out there that can support my living expenses then fine, osap and student line of credit will only give you so much, and the rules have changed.

This weekend is the universities fair I am going to add that and get some info on mcmasters and laurentian. who knows I might even move outside of toronto once I finish up at Calc.

the whole esthetician thing the only thing about that interest me is the facials and skin care, the whole make up artist crap does not. so I started searching for alternative medicines since that is what I was really looking for.

So I have been looking around for training for Doulas, and midwifery and homeopath therapy.

but the plan still goes as followed, and I am not concerned of how long it take me to get to where I want to be. since I am young I do have sometime to make sure I take things one step at a time.
 

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I'd say aim higher. You can always settle for lower later, but it ain't workin the other way round.

If you are interested in midwive go for nursing degree first. If you are interested in skin care you may want to look at pharma related degrees or dermatology related studies. When you start it stick it out, don't quit after 3 months. With a serious degree under your belt people will take you seriously.

Don't go for the DeVry degrees, go for Ryerson, Humber, Sheridan. At 22 you can do anything you want. I wish I was 22 again so I could study to become a dentist or a surgeon. Don't make the same mistake and piss your life away on 6 months courses.
 

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Yes I know I can do anything I want and I already know what I want to do, and if you knew anything about the midwifery program you do not need a nursing degree for it but I guess I know better on that since I am doing the research for it and contacting midwives and the midwivery assosstiaons but yea I am 22 how much do I really know about what I want for my career.
 

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MinnieApple said:
Yes I know I can do anything I want and I already know what I want to do, and if you knew anything about the midwifery program you do not need a nursing degree for it but I guess I know better on that since I am doing the research for it and contacting midwives and the midwivery assosstiaons but yea I am 22 how much do I really know about what I want for my career.
That wasn't my point. My point is don't go for the shortest, cheapest 3 month course to build a life-long career on.
 

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First and formost Ms Apple, not to shoot you any "negativity" but please please PLEASE work on your spelling and grammar. I tell you, NO one will take you seriously if you spell and write like that on any formal document......

For eg: your latest post is one long run on sentence. It should have been 3 maybe 4 sentences, not one and don't even get me started on spelling.....
 

raven@mirage

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Its a fucking message board for escorts your no one to talk about who is going to take me serious.

so the spelling and grammar does not apply on a board that is not serious from day one.
 

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Well, I expected you to take it my comments this way and your attitude speaks volumes.......remember: you came on here asking for advice and I am not the only one who brought this up.

Whether it is an escort review board is irrelevant, if you can't construct a reasonable sentence and spell words correctly here, are you all of a sudden going to be able to when writing your english entrance exam????
 

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Minnie,

I second the advice about making sure you do it right, get into a good program and stick with it. Good for you for going back to school.
 
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tboy said:
Well, I expected you to take it my comments this way and your attitude speaks volumes.......remember: you came on here asking for advice and I am not the only one who brought this up.

Whether it is an escort review board is irrelevant, if you can't construct a reasonable sentence and spell words correctly here, are you all of a sudden going to be able to when writing your english entrance exam????

Sorry Minnie, but I agree with tboy here...if you take that attitude into a classroom, you might as well not be there.
 

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Well of course....

tboy said:
Well, I expected you to take it my comments this way and your attitude speaks volumes.......remember: you came on here asking for advice and I am not the only one who brought this up.
...remember this is the girl who thought the best way to generate traffic for her escort "business" was to create an online blog where she mocked her clients...
 

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Ditto. My initial impression of you (we've never met, I only know you through your TERB posts) was that you were in the sex world for all the wrong reasons. Despite that though you've been persistent at trying to find your place in the world and you're clearly working hard to better your life through legitimate means. Well done!




I have to agree with this. Any resume I see with spelling / grammar mistakes is immediately rejected with some choice comments to my HR counterparts for not screening properly. Poor spelling / grammar just screams that you don't have attention to detail - it's a killer on job applications.

As for you midwive aspirations, why exactly is it a dilemma? I don't mean this next bit to sound harsh but I do mean it to be a reality check. If being a midwife is what you want to do, then do it. What is preventing you from applying to whatever courses / programs you need to take, studying your ass off and passing your exams? Where is the dilemma here?

Now this part will probably sound harsh but again, I mean it to be a reality check and nothing more. In terms of careers, you probably have little real experience. Let's face it, the porn work is not something that will go on the resume. So that leaves us with answering phones from home and a kit you bought for $50. At this point, you can't even claim call centre experience because what you've been doing likely amounts to little more than taking orders for pizza. Call centre experience is far more in depth; it generally requires months of intense training to not just take calls but to resolve issues. If someone's pizza order is screwed up, can you resolve the issue or do you merely pass the call on to a supervisor?

I don't doubt that you work hard. You probably put in a lot of hours. But the actual experience you have amounts to little more than any kid who flips burgers at McDonald's. This is important to understand.

If you go to university, the degree you get will in a way, almost be irrelevant. Ultimately, university teaches you critical thinking. It teaches you how to look at a situation, how to analyse it, and how to act based on your reasoned observations.

College on the other hand tends to focus more on practical skills and how to do a particular task or how to work in a particular industry. That's obviously good, but college skills are somewhat less "portable". For example, if you get a diploma in culinary arts (chef) it's less likely that you'll get a job as a newspaper journalist. But a university degree in say, history could end up getting you a job in something like marketing. On the surface they're clearly not related, but underneath it's the critical thinking and application of that thinking that matter most.

So in the end, it's up to you. If you want to be a midwife, then go be a midwife. Enroll in the program and start studying. But if you want more options, go to university or at least go to college. But don't think that you've worked multiple careers because honestly, you haven't.
Your advice is bang on. Anyways how far ahead is OP in realizing her dream of becoming a midwife?
 

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MinniApple, how are you getting on with your plans?

Even if you haven't started or find it difficult, I really urge you to not let it get the better of you. You'll limit yourself in so many ways and it sounds like you have the smarts to not to want to let yourself get caught in that trap.
 
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