N-Word debate????

[Iamfrench]

Why is the N-word so offensive to black people if a white person/ non-black person say it?

White people don't really get offended when a black person calls a white guy; cracker, honky, whiteboy.

Same goes for Asians, they don't really care if you call them chink, gook, jap etc....

Same goes for Hispanics, they dont get offended when you call them wetbacks, spics, beaners etc...

Even on the internet when we are dicussing racial slurs we always type them but when it comes to the N-word we always censor it eg: "N-word" N***** etc..


Lastly I got a question for the African-American/ African-Caribian/ Black brothers and sisters:

Why are Hispanics allowed to say nigga? I can understand that Hispanic people such as the Puerto Ricans, Cubans and Dominicans got some african ancestry. But you can ask any Puerto Rican (Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin) if they identify themselves as Black and they will say NO!!!!! A matter of fact most hispanics will tick the white box on the cencus. Also why are mexicans allowed to say it? They are mestizos, thus half spaniard/ half amerindian, thus no african ancestry. And Many hispanics are in fact descendants of white spaniards. Don't tell me Camerian Diaz, Eva Longloria are black?

edit: also a lot of non-blacks in the hip hop community are using the "slang" version (nigga)... and they are allowed to say it. Please explain....

 

[The Bandit]

I couldn't care less if someone calls me a wop. It's just a word.

 

[Shallow Throat]

Are you sure about the Asians and Hispanics not caring about those names?
Just try walking up to one that you don't know and see how well he takes it.

Of course, being French, you are totally self-absorbed and insensitive to the feelings of others, you spineless, ill-mannered, lazy FROG!!!!
Sorry, just got caught up in the topic

I find White slurs just sound silly or stupid and really don't have any bite to them. If someone called me honky, I'd probably laugh. The worst is likely "white trash". Anyone know any nasty terms for us caucasian folks??

 

[ig-88]

Anyone know any nasty terms for us caucasian folks??

Honky and cracker don't have as much effect, because they were created as retaliation.

But there are ethnic slurs amongst whites and to be fair, only whites seem to be allowed to use them.

mick = Irish
wop, digo = Italian
limey = British
kraut = German
kike = Jewish

Now, if you called people these names in a semi-civilized setting, I'm pretty sure they'd be offended as well.

I also agree that Asians, Hispanics, Whites, and Blacks would be offended by such terms, especially if someone from another race uses them.

 

[frankcastle]

Same goes for Asians, they don't really care if you call them chink, gook, jap etc....

Just so you know I can think of one asian that would get offended. Me. It's offensive for a number of reasons.

1) 9/10 times the person doesn't even know what country I'm from.

2) If you want to refer to my ethnicity use the proper terms because those terms are meant as insults.

 

[stinkynuts]

I am Asian, and let me guarantee you that almost every single one of us would be offended if called a gook, chink, jap, etc.

 

[ryick]

Why is the N-word so offensive to black people if a white person/ non-black person say it?

White people don't really get offended when a black person calls a white guy; cracker, honky, whiteboy.

Same goes for Asians, they don't really care if you call them chink, gook, jap etc....

Same goes for Hispanics, they dont get offended when you call them wetbacks, spics, beaners etc...

Even on the internet when we are dicussing racial slurs we always type them but when it comes to the N-word we always censor it eg: "N-word" N***** etc..


Lastly I got a question for the African-American/ African-Caribian/ Black brothers and sisters:

Why are Hispanics allowed to say nigga? I can understand that Hispanic people such as the Puerto Ricans, Cubans and Dominicans got some african ancestry. But you can ask any Puerto Rican (Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin) if they identify themselves as Black and they will say NO!!!!! A matter of fact most hispanics will tick the white box on the cencus. Also why are mexicans allowed to say it? They are mestizos, thus half spaniard/ half amerindian, thus no african ancestry. And Many hispanics are in fact descendants of white spaniards. Don't tell me Camerian Diaz, Eva Longloria are black?

edit: also a lot of non-blacks in the hip hop community are using the "slang" version (nigga)... and they are allowed to say it. Please explain....

Are you serious...To me there is really nothing bad to call a white person..all the names all sound funny...as for hispanics able to use the word...It is all about being a minority....nigga and nigger are 2 different words...and even black people use both...in the end, why try to understand it if you know it is not a good thing to say....don't!!

 

[basketcase]

It doesn't matter what you call a white guy because he knows that (statistically at least) it will have no effect on his life (except for the Klan/nazi types who try to blame someone because their life is really shity already). Minorities, like it or not, do face disadvantages and preconceptions when they deal with people in mostly white arenas.

The insults that are most oppressive to whites are those not based on skin colour but attacking their non PCness. (racist, sexist, homophobe, etc.)

And for the record, if you know that people find a certain word offensive and you still use it, you are either a racist or an narrowminded idiot (with the exception being what you call a good friend in private as a joke where they know you don't really feel that way).

 

[frankcastle]

Why does it bother you that some people can use the n word and others can't? Is it a word you are dying to use?

Either have the balls to use it and stand up for it or accept the fact that it's going to be found offensive and avoid it.

Do you feel the same way about talking about sex and porn? I mean you can joke around with the guys about bukkake and gang bangs but would you say that to your daughter or neice?

Maybe it's not completely analogous but what is so mind boggling about the concept that some words are appropriate in certain contexts while not in others.

On a more benign note most don't talk the same way at work as they do at home.

Anyways, the list goes on and on and it's just part of the way north american culture is. There are numerous words that are appropriate in only certain contexts. What's okay in a hockey rink is not the same as the classroom the church or the boardroom.

 

[bethy]

Why is the N-word so offensive to black people if a white person/ non-black person say it?
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perhaps, N-word reminds them of black people's horrible history in america. when I say the N word, what is the first thing that comes into your mind? is it rapper, or the black people in early history of USA?

I guess other kind of people dont get offended that much, simply they can take the joke and nothing remind them anything bad.


How often do you say the E-word?

 

[bandita]

The status of the speaker colours the meaning of the words.

You really can't say "kike" either. But who would?

What's the "e-word"?

 

[xdog]

I wasn't aware that "elephant" was a bad word.

x

 

[mmouse]

White people don't really get offended when a black person calls a white guy; cracker, honky, whiteboy.

Same goes for Asians, they don't really care if you call them chink, gook, jap etc....

Same goes for Hispanics, they dont get offended when you call them wetbacks, spics, beaners etc...

You're not French, you're a fucking idiot.

 

[stinkynuts]

You're not French, you're a fucking idiot.

Agreed.

 

[papasmerf]

a word is a word is a word

It comes down to how it is said and ment.

 

[mrpolarbear]

Iv'e been called a Wigger before.

 

[Eli]

Using racial slurs is just lame. Means you can't actually counter someone with something more intelligent and have to rely on cheap blows. Really, if someone throws a racial slur at you you should realize that they are just weak minded and that you shouldn't let weak minded people get to you.

 

[ryick]

Iv'e been called a Wigger before.

LOL!!!!

 

[euripides]

People who have been treated like sh*t don't like being called names. They have suffered and are continuing to suffer. Most whites have never experienced that kind of treatment. People on top of the heap can afford to be tolerant. using epithets is extremely demeaning, insulting and contemptuous.
I can't believe there are people out there that don't understand.

 

[hunter001]

I think he just started the thread as a good way to throw out as many insults as he could.