Murder Rate in Toronto

[The Bandit]

It seems the murder rate in Toronto will be down again this year, but what's troubling is - as always they don't want crime rates by race...but the majority of murders this year have been young black youth (2 more again this weekend).
When you see a parent interviewed it's always "he was such a good kid"...then why was he gunned down or stabbed?

The truth hurts....I watch the news every night and I see the pics of these kids.

 

[mruptonogood]

It seems the murder rate in Toronto will be down again this year, but what's troubling is - as always they don't want crime rates by race...but the majority of murders this year have been young black youth (2 more again this weekend).
When you see a parent interviewed it's always "he was such a good kid"...then why was he gunned down or stabbed?

This is not a politically correct comment regardless of the FACTS proving your statement correct. Such blatant honesty will not be tolerated in this country young man. Back in the early 90's I did a paper whilst Attending a 2 year Law Enforcement Program. Back then stats were kept before all the political correct bullshit. Even back then the majority of serious crimes were committed by.......you guessed it and I got an A- for my paper. Today, if I did that same paper I'd be thrown in jail for 20 years.
P.S.
Back in the 90's I had no idea what I wanted to do for a living and I assure you that was just a phase......easy fellas..........: )

 

[rafterman]

Seems to me I heard the nationwide stats a month or two ago and the cities with the highest murder rates in the country are Saskatoon and Regina. If I recollect Toronto was at the very bottom of the table in like 31st position.

 

[wazup]

Seems to me I heard the nationwide stats a month or two ago and the cities with the highest murder rates in the country are Saskatoon and Regina. If I recollect Toronto was at the very bottom of the table in like 31st position.

and?

 

[wazup]

As long as it's thugs killing thugs, who cares??

 

[Plan B]

Great website about black on black crime in Toronto! These are the dudes white women go crazy for(sigh)


http://tdotmurders.blogspot.com/

 

[HOF]

As long as it's thugs killing thugs, who cares??

Unfortunately, it's when someone that is not a thug gets hit in the crossfire. Jane Creba

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Creba

 

[nicoledc109]

Great website about black on black crime in Toronto! These are the dudes white women go crazy for(sigh)


http://tdotmurders.blogspot.com/

Such a very amazing link!

 

[Despo]

I just think what a waste of taxpayers (mine) money police investigating and hospital medical expenses to keep these douche bags alive. The color of there skin means nothing to me.

 

[oldjones]

There's an even stronger corelation than race: Gender. The fact that race or gender corelate w/ murder states doesn't prove either one is a contributing factor. Even if it did, how would we use the knowledge to lower the murder rate?

 

[rafterman]

and?

and so unless your a unless your a young black man slinging dope at Jane and Finch your chance of being gunned down in TO is very small. (notwithstanding there are a very few tragic cases of totally innocent victims such as Jane Creba).

 

[Questor]

Seems to me I heard the nationwide stats a month or two ago and the cities with the highest murder rates in the country are Saskatoon and Regina. If I recollect Toronto was at the very bottom of the table in like 31st position.

and?

And...Regina and Saskatoon are not very well known as destinations for immigrants. Note the hysteria around the "terrorists" that are flocking to our shores to claim refugee status.

There's an even stronger corelation than race: Gender. The fact that race or gender corelate w/ murder states doesn't prove either one is a contributing factor. Even if it did, how would we use the knowledge to lower the murder rate?

Very good point. Age also has a strong correlation to murder. Yet stopping immigration and prohibiting babies are not really viable solutions. Either is hiring more cops.

 

[oldjones]

Which kinda gets us to happy, well brought-up kids from loving secure homes are highly unlikely to kill. So what we need to focus on is the stuff that makes those sortsa kids happen.

 

[The Options Menu]

Which kinda gets us to happy, well brought-up kids from loving secure homes are highly unlikely to kill. So what we need to focus on is the stuff that makes those sortsa kids happen.

Gasp! Socialism. Socialism I say.

The quote pretty much hits' the nail on the head 100%. A society either puts its resources into fostering stable homes where parents have the time to be involved, with adequate daycare, education, and structured activities for children, or you spend for more resources on crime, crime prevention, the legal system, and all manner of insurance and security instruments.

 

[landscaper]

interesting replies, yes a stable family for the most part ensures a reasonable grown up ( Bernardo would be the exception). The b ulk of the murders in Toronto are of young black men by young black men. The underlieing cause is generally an illegal activity of some description, drugs being a popular first choice.

The obvious solution is a support system of some description that ensures the bulk of the young ( 5 to 12 years) people have some system to direct their energy into productive areas.

Unfortunatly the current crop of shooters is probably already lost, as an example the dead guy at Mabel Ave was under either house arrest or a bail restriction confining him to his home if he had abided by the restriction he would in fact be alive.

The absolute indefference to the law is a problem that will not be solved by counseling.

NB., The smaller towns and cities that have a higher murder rate generally have far fewer murders than Toronto, the rate is based on a per 100000 population so 5 murders in Saskatoon makes a big difference, in Toronto 5 murders unfortunatly disappears in the statistical noise.

 

[The Options Menu]

^^ That's why austerity programs that gut social programs are almost always a bad bet. You get a short term savings with massive long term costs. When you gut social programs, many people can hold it together for the short term, and anybody 'on the right path' when the cuts are coming on-line will basically be OK. But then you have massive problems 15 or so years later. The real fruit of the Liberal's '94 Bloodbath Budget, followed by the Harris cuts and downloading, combined with the wise leadership of Mayor Mel are only really coming to fruition now. The effect here has been mitigated and moderate, but once you 'lose a generation' you pretty much have to pay for them until they're dead. (The real case study here is all of the trend lines in post Regan America...)

NB., The smaller towns and cities that have a higher murder rate generally have far fewer murders than Toronto, the rate is based on a per 100000 population so 5 murders in Saskatoon makes a big difference, in Toronto 5 murders unfortunatly disappears in the statistical noise.

A few murders in a small place can easily make it the murder capital of Canada for the year, but rest assured Toronto isn't a terribly rough town.

 

[onthebottom]

I would argue (although I'm too lazy to do the google search) that you could positively correlate crime rate in cities in North America to black and hispanic population.

OTB

 

[Warrior666]

Great website about black on black crime in Toronto! These are the dudes white women go crazy for(sigh) http://tdotmurders.blogspot.com/

You should replace the word "white" with "stupid", unfortunately, stupidity does not discriminate, you can find it in every race.

 

[The Options Menu]

I would argue (although I'm too lazy to do the google search) that you could positively correlate crime rate in cities in North America to black and hispanic population.

OTB

Correlation is not causation.

 

[landscaper]

^^ That's why austerity programs that gut social programs are almost always a bad bet. You get a short term savings with massive long term costs. When you gut social programs, many people can hold it together for the short term, and anybody 'on the right path' when the cuts are coming on-line will basically be OK. But then you have massive problems 15 or so years later. The real fruit of the Liberal's '94 Bloodbath Budget, followed by the Harris cuts and downloading, combined with the wise leadership of Mayor Mel are only really coming to fruition now. The effect here has been mitigated and moderate, but once you 'lose a generation' you pretty much have to pay for them until they're dead. (The real case study here is all of the trend lines in post Regan America...)



A few murders in a small place can easily make it the murder capital of Canada for the year, but rest assured Toronto isn't a terribly rough town.

I have been in some of the rougher cities in the world and Toronto is a n ice city