MSM can't be trusted

[ottawa_cuck]

That's what the right wing media tells you so you buy their lies.
Legit media like CBC don't lie, CBC goes so far as to have an ombudsman you can complain to about bias and inaccuracies in stories.

One of the first goals of fascist regimes is to destroy trust in the media.

The difference is when a journal like USA Today finds that one of their journalist cheated/lied. The denounced it publicly and fire that journalist.

A news site like Breitbart or other right wing 'news' do not bother with it at all. They fabricate their own facts to their own narrative so then they cannot be false

Journalists Who Were Caught Lying

It's not just politicians who lie through their teeth. Even some of the most trusted names in news have told a tall tale here or there. Some of them are even ...

www.ranker.com

Media lied about Clinton bc of a blowjob
Lied about Bush bc of Iraq war
Lied about Obama
Lied about Trump
Lied about Harper
Telling the truth about Trudeau

 

[Frankfooter]

Journalists Who Were Caught Lying

It's not just politicians who lie through their teeth. Even some of the most trusted names in news have told a tall tale here or there. Some of them are even ...

www.ranker.com

Media lied about Clinton bc of a blowjob
Lied about Bush bc of Iraq war
Lied about Obama
Lied about Trump
Lied about Harper
Telling the truth about Trudeau

Thanks for so clearly showing us how you have absolutely no idea what legitimate journalism looks like.
I couldn't have done a better job myself.

 

[ottawa_cuck]

Thanks for so clearly showing us how you have absolutely no idea what legitimate journalism looks like.
I couldn't have done a better job myself.

lefties control the majority of media & they get busted all the time

great move Frank

 

[Frankfooter]

lefties control the majority of media & they get busted all the time

great move Frank

There are no left wing owned media, its all right wing corporate ownership here and in the US.
The only non corporate are really PBS and CBC.

But I forget that to some people, something like the washington post looks like a commie rag.
Its your own bias that's off, not the media.

 

[basketcase]

I don't find any of the trustworthy, maybe Reuters but that's it.

So is it like Churchill's quote on democracy or is it simply what Sean said?

 

[ottawa_cuck]

There are no left wing owned media, its all right wing corporate ownership here and in the US.
The only non corporate are really PBS and CBC.

Thank you. I wasn’t aware. wow.

How about social media? Right wing as well?

 

[squeezer]

I feel like we are in an episode of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

 

[dirtydaveiii]

I feel like we are in an episode of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

More like 74223319 flew over the cuckoos nest

 

[Gooseifur]

So is it like Churchill's quote on democracy or is it simply what Sean said?

Not sure to what you are referring to.

 

[silentkisser]

Thank you. I wasn’t aware. wow.

How about social media? Right wing as well?

Considering that Facebook overly promotes content from right-wing media sources should be the answer you're looking for....Maybe they course corrected a bit and banned the most egregious examples of people who lie and spread disinformation, but Daily Caller and other right-wing stuff is heavily promoted by the algorithm.

 

[silentkisser]

OK, let me break it down for you. As someone mentioned in this thread, virtually all media is owned by corporations. So, most media outlets tend to be fairly conservative. Note, I'm not saying right-wing. But, the mainstream ones are centrist. Even the Toronto Star (affectionately called the Red Star by PCs) is fairly centrist though left-leaning.

Journalists who lie eventually get caught. There have been many examples of this happening. Sometimes this goes on for years, other times it is caught fairly quickly. But, in MSM, when it does happen, they let it be known. They don't try to cover it up. People lose their jobs. These channels and papers know they need credibility to attract viewers/readers. In many newsrooms they have fact checkers to ensure the accuracy of their reporting. In some places they even will check the colour of someones shirt if it's mentioned in the story. But, as advertising and subscription dollars dry up, newsrooms cut back on these types of positions.


Now, the Right wing media doesn't do much of this. Breitbart has no journalistic ethics or standards. They have pumped out some scoops, but frequently they report on innuendo and not facts. Or they amp up negative stories for Biden while spinning bad stories about the GOP.

Over the past five years there has been an consistent effort by Trump and the right to discredit the media. Trump knew that most of his followers were Fox watchers, and he knew Fox had his back. So, he slams the MSM with tons of falsehoods and lies. When these rubes switch from Fox to say, CBS, they don't see the Fox type stories....so they think CBS is either not covering it or lying about things.

The point is, the right understands that keeping their base uninformed is good for them. If they only watch Fox or Newsmax or OAN, they will believe anything. If you can make them think the MSM is lying to them, even better. The serious issue here is that the right wing channels have promoted false stories that have consequences. January 6th could not have happened without their indirect help.

 

[ottawa_cuck]

Considering that Facebook overly promotes content from right-wing media sources should be the answer you're looking for....Maybe they course corrected a bit and banned the most egregious examples of people who lie and spread disinformation, but Daily Caller and other right-wing stuff is heavily promoted by the algorithm.

Heavily promoted? Or allowed to exist in the algorithm because they report crime economy etc that Libs cant deny is happening?

You sound like Left wing voice is the only voice that can exist, but right wing needs to be shut down. Grow the hell up.

 

[Frankfooter]

Thank you. I wasn’t aware. wow.

How about social media? Right wing as well?

Zucherberg definitely.
Twitter not so much.

But I'm sure 4chan, truth social, gettr and all the rest are positively commie in comparison.

 

[Frankfooter]

OK, let me break it down for you. As someone mentioned in this thread, virtually all media is owned by corporations. So, most media outlets tend to be fairly conservative. Note, I'm not saying right-wing. But, the mainstream ones are centrist. Even the Toronto Star (affectionately called the Red Star by PCs) is fairly centrist though left-leaning.

Journalists who lie eventually get caught. There have been many examples of this happening. Sometimes this goes on for years, other times it is caught fairly quickly. But, in MSM, when it does happen, they let it be known. They don't try to cover it up. People lose their jobs. These channels and papers know they need credibility to attract viewers/readers. In many newsrooms they have fact checkers to ensure the accuracy of their reporting. In some places they even will check the colour of someones shirt if it's mentioned in the story. But, as advertising and subscription dollars dry up, newsrooms cut back on these types of positions.


Now, the Right wing media doesn't do much of this. Breitbart has no journalistic ethics or standards. They have pumped out some scoops, but frequently they report on innuendo and not facts. Or they amp up negative stories for Biden while spinning bad stories about the GOP.

Over the past five years there has been an consistent effort by Trump and the right to discredit the media. Trump knew that most of his followers were Fox watchers, and he knew Fox had his back. So, he slams the MSM with tons of falsehoods and lies. When these rubes switch from Fox to say, CBS, they don't see the Fox type stories....so they think CBS is either not covering it or lying about things.

The point is, the right understands that keeping their base uninformed is good for them. If they only watch Fox or Newsmax or OAN, they will believe anything. If you can make them think the MSM is lying to them, even better. The serious issue here is that the right wing channels have promoted false stories that have consequences. January 6th could not have happened without their indirect help.

I think they don't even know what good journalism looks like.
This CBC article on Ontario's health care is an excellent example of good reporting and non-partisan criticism and possible solutions, for instance.

You would never see something like this on postmedia. Possibly at the Globe though they would temper it by trying to argue that more cuts are the solution.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-emergency-room-wait-times-solutions-1.6492710

 

[silentkisser]

Heavily promoted? Or allowed to exist in the algorithm because they report crime economy etc that Libs cant deny is happening?

You sound like Left wing voice is the only voice that can exist, but right wing needs to be shut down. Grow the hell up.

Not what I'm saying at all. But there is a difference between a news organization that tries to be centrist and one that is a propaganda arm of the GOP. As left-leaning as MSNBC might be, it is not the equivalent of Fox. There is nothing wrong with having news coverage from a right-wing perspective. It's when they don't cover it correctly is where the issue is.

As I've said repeatedly, there are some right-wing news groups (Daily Caller for example) that covers some stuff fairly. But, they will either not cover good news for Democrats or bad news for the GOP. That is something the MSM does not do. They would cover both types of stories fairly.

What I am really saying is that both far left (which there are significantly fewer outlets) and far right organization should not get promoted at all by social media. The Wall Street Journal is a great example of a centrist paper, as is the New York Times. You can tell if a media outlet is centrist when both the left and the right are angry at them from time to time.

 

[ottawa_cuck]

The liberal media has completely trashed these people’s minds.

OK, let me break it down for you. As someone mentioned in this thread, virtually all media is owned by corporations. So, most media outlets tend to be fairly conservative. Note, I'm not saying right-wing. But, the mainstream ones are centrist. Even the Toronto Star (affectionately called the Red Star by PCs) is fairly centrist though left-leaning.

Journalists who lie eventually get caught. There have been many examples of this happening. Sometimes this goes on for years, other times it is caught fairly quickly. But, in MSM, when it does happen, they let it be known. They don't try to cover it up. People lose their jobs. These channels and papers know they need credibility to attract viewers/readers. In many newsrooms they have fact checkers to ensure the accuracy of their reporting. In some places they even will check the colour of someones shirt if it's mentioned in the story. But, as advertising and subscription dollars dry up, newsrooms cut back on these types of positions.


Now, the Right wing media doesn't do much of this. Breitbart has no journalistic ethics or standards. They have pumped out some scoops, but frequently they report on innuendo and not facts. Or they amp up negative stories for Biden while spinning bad stories about the GOP.

Over the past five years there has been an consistent effort by Trump and the right to discredit the media. Trump knew that most of his followers were Fox watchers, and he knew Fox had his back. So, he slams the MSM with tons of falsehoods and lies. When these rubes switch from Fox to say, CBS, they don't see the Fox type stories....so they think CBS is either not covering it or lying about things.

The point is, the right understands that keeping their base uninformed is good for them. If they only watch Fox or Newsmax or OAN, they will believe anything. If you can make them think the MSM is lying to them, even better. The serious issue here is that the right wing channels have promoted false stories that have consequences. January 6th could not have happened without their indirect help.

Liberal fantasy porn….

Ugh ugh ugh I’m coming

 

[ottawa_cuck]

I feel like we are in an episode of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

the shoe fits

 

[Frankfooter]

the shoe fits

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I'm not sure if that means you think you are Nurse Ratched or this guy.

 

[silentkisser]

The liberal media has completely trashed these people’s minds.


Liberal fantasy porn….

Ugh ugh ugh I’m coming

Not fantasy, reality. But your rebuttal is amazingly concise...

 

[The Oracle]

I was listening to The Joe Rogan Podcast a little while ago and he had Matt Taibbi on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Taibbi

What was discussed is that most journalism today is take journalism not dig journalism.

Meaning they're not searching for the truth and where the story leads them. They made up their mind ahead of time and set out to argue that hypothesis.

Now this is nothing new but in this day and age the overwhelming majority of ''news sources'' fall into this trap.

Thus sowing a huge amount of divide amongst the general population.