MSG in coffee shops - Is this true ???

BULLRYDER

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Subject: MSG - A slow poisoning - and it's in EVERYTHING! PLEASE read.

Please inform everyone.

Food additive "MSG" is a Slow Poison.

Slow Poisoning MSG hides behind 25 or
more names, such as "Natural Flavouring".
MSG is also in your favourite Tim Horton's and other brand
coffee shops! Pass this on to those who still may be unaware or disbelieving
of the dangers of MSG.

I wondered if there could be an actual chemical causing
the massive obesity epidemic, so did a friend of mine, John Erb.
He was a research assistant at the University of Waterloo
in Ontario, Canada, and spent years working for the government.
He made an amazing discovery while going through scientific journals for a
book he was writing called "The Slow Poisoning of America". In hundreds of
studies around the world, scientists were creating obese mice and rats to
use in diet or diabetes test studies. No strain of rat or mice is naturally
obese, so the scientists have to create them.
They make these morbidly obese creatures by injecting them with MSG when
they are first born. The MSG triples the amount of insulin the pancreas
creates; causing rats (and humans?) to become obese. They even have a title
for the fat rodents they create: "MSG-Treated Rats".

I was shocked too. I went to my kitchen, checking thecupboards and the
fridge. MSG was in everything! The Campbell's soups, the Hostess Doritos,
the Lays flavoured potato chips, Top Ramen, Betty Crocker Hamburger Helper,
Heinz canned gravy, Swanson frozen prepared meals, Kraft salad dressings,
especially the 'healthy low fat' ones. The items that didn't have MSG marked
on the product label had something called
''Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein'', which is just another name for Monosodium
Glutamate. It was shocking to see just how many of the foods we feed our
children everyday are filled with this stuff. They hide MSG under many
different names in order to fool those who carefully read the ingredient
list, so they don't catch on. (Other names for MSG: 'Accent' -
'Aginomoto' - 'Natural Meet Tenderiser' etc) But it didn't stop there.
When our family went out to eat, we started asking at the restaurants what
menu items had MSG.

Many employees, even the managers, swore they didn't use
MSG. But when we ask for the ingredient list, which they grudgingly
provided, sure enough MSG and Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein were everywhere.
Burger King,McDonalds, Wendy's, Taco Bell, every restaurant, even the sit
down ones like TGIF, Chilis', Applebees and Denny's use MSG in abundance.
Kentucky Fried Chicken seemed to be the WORST offender: MSG was in every
chicken dish, salad dressing and gravy. No wonder I loved to eat that
coating on the skin, their secret spice was MSG! So why is MSG in so may of
the foods we eat? Is it a preservative or a vitamin?? Not according to my
friend John. In the book he wrote, an expose of the food additive industry
called "The Slow Poisoning of America" he said that MSG is added to food for
the addictive effect it has on the humanbody.
http://www.spofamerica.com
Even the propaganda website sponsored by the food manufacturers lobby group
supporting MSG at:
http://www.msgfactscom/facts/msgfact12.html
explains that the reason they add it to food is to make people eat more. A
study of the elderly showed that people eat more of the foods that it is
added to. The Glutamate Association lobby group says eating more benefits
the elderly, but what does it do to the rest of us? 'Betcha can't eat just
one', takes on a whole new meaning where MSG is concerned! And we wonder why
the nation is overweight? The MSG manufacturers themselves admit that it
addicts people to their products. It makes people choose their product over
others, and makes people eat more of it than they would if MSG wasn't added.


Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity,
it is an addictive substance! Since its introduction into the American food
supply fifty years ago, MSG has been added in larger and larger doses to the
pre-packaged meals, soups, snacks and fast foods we are tempted to eat
everyday. The FDA has set no limits on how much of it can be added to food.
They claim it's safe to eat in any amount. How can they claim it safe when
there are hundreds of scientific studies with titles like these? :-

'The monosodium glutamate (MSG) obese rat as a model for the study of
exercise in obesity'. Gobatto CA, Mello MA, Souza CT,
Ribeiro IA.Res Commun Mol Pathol Pharmacol. 2002.


'Adrenalectomy abolishes the food-induced hypothalamic
serotonin release in both normal and monosodium glutamate-obese rats'.
Guimaraes RB, Telles MM, Coelho VB, Mori C, Nascimento CM, Ribeiro Brain
Res Bull. 2002 Aug.


'Obesity induced by neonatal monosodium glutamate
treatment in spontaneously hypertensive rats: an animal model of multiple
risk factors'. Iwase M, Yamamoto M, Iino K, Ichikawa K, Shinohara N,
Yoshinari Fujishima Hypertens Res. 1998 Mar.


'Hypothalamic lesion induced by injection of monosodium
glutamate in suckling period and subsequent development of obesity'.
Tanaka K, Shimada M, Nakao K, Kusunoki Exp Neurol. 1978 Oct.


Yes, that last study was not a typo, it WAS written in 1978.
Both the "medical research community" and "food manufacturers" have
known about MSG's side effects for decades! Many more studies mentioned
in John Erb's book link MSG to Diabetes, Migraines and headaches, Autism,
ADHD and even Alzheimer's. But what can we do to stop the food
manufactures from dumping fattening and addictive MSG into our food supply
and causing the obesity epidemic we now see?


Even as you read this, G. W. Bush and his corporate
supporters are pushing a Bill through Congress called the "Personal
Responsibility in Food Consumption Act" also known as the "Cheeseburger
Bill", this sweeping law bans anyone from suing food manufacturers,
sellers and distributors. Even if it comes out that they purposely added
an addictive chemical to their foods. Read about it for yourself at:
http://www.yahoo.com
The Bill has already been rushed through the House of
Representatives, and is due for the same rubber stamp at Senate level. It
Is important that Bush and his corporate supporters get it through before
the media lets everyone know about 'MSG, the intentional
Nicotine for food'. Several months ago, John Erb took his book and his
concerns to one of the highest government health officials in Canada.
While sitting in the Government office, the official told him "Sure I know
how bad MSG is, I wouldn't touch the stuff!" But this top level government
official refused to tell the public what he knew.


The big media doesn't want to tell the public either,
fearing legal issues with their advertisers. It seems that the fallout
on fast food industry may hurt their profit margin. The food producers and
restaurants have been addicting us to their products for years, and now
we are paying the price for it. Our children should not be cursed with
obesity caused by an addictive food additive. But what can I do about
it?... I'm just one voice!
What can I do to stop the poisoning of our children?
While our governments are insuring financial protection for the industry
that is poisoning us!


This e-mail is going out to everyone I know in an attempt to tell you
the truth that the corporate owned politicians and media won't tell you. The
best way you can help to save yourself and your children from this
drug-induced epidemic, is to forward this email to everyone. With any luck,
it will circle the globe before politicians can pass the legislation
protecting those who are poisoning us. The food industry learned a lesson
from the tobacco industry. Imagine if big tobacco had a bill like this in
place before someone blew the whistle on Nicotine?


If you are one of the few who can still believe that MSG
is good for us, and you don't believe what John Erb has to say, see for
yourself. Go to the National Library of Medicine, at
http://www.pubmed.com.
Type in the words "MSG Obese" and read a few of the 115 medical studies
that appear.


We the public, do not want to be rats in one giant
experiment and we do not approve of food that makes us into a nation of
obese, lethargic, addicted sheep, feeding the food industry's bottom
line, while waiting for the heart transplant, diabetic induced amputation,
blindness or other obesity induced, life threatening disorders. With your
help we can put an end to this poison. Do your part in sending this
message out by word of mouth, e-mail or by distribution of this print-out
to all your friends all over the world and stop this 'Slow Poisoning of
Mankind' by the packaged food industry.


Blowing the whistle on MSG is our responsibility, get the word out.
 
BULLRYDER said:
Subject: MSG - A slow poisoning - and it's in EVERYTHING! PLEASE read. ...Please inform everyone....Food additive "MSG" is a Slow Poison. ...

Isn't this the same as saying alcohol in liquor and beer is slowly posoining America and causing obesity and social unrest....
 
> Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity,
> it is an addictive substance!

All I see is proof that it makes lab rats obese. Where is the proof that it makes humans obese? Where is the proof that it is addictive? I hear that food is addictive too.

Face it, MSG is simply a flavour enhancer. Companies put it in their food because it makes food taste better. <*shock*>
 
still not enough to get me to stop drinking coffee or eating out when I choose too. Soon we can't breathe the air or drink the water or walk the earth without some special suit....this is so minor on my radar. I am more worried about artificial sweetners to tell you the truth.
 
kara said:
still not enough to get me to stop drinking coffee or eating out when I choose too. Soon we can't breathe the air or drink the water or walk the earth without some special suit....this is so minor on my radar. I am more worried about artificial sweetners to tell you the truth.
Agreed. Aspartame should be banned.
 
We are slowly killing ourselves daily so why would anyone care about MSG. There are alot more pollutants/chemicals in our daily lives, that MSG isn't even on the radar screen. Makes a nice internet hoax especially with retired people it seems. My 80 year old dad just sent me basically the same info as BULLRYDER posted. :p
 
Dong Joe said:
> Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity,
> it is an addictive substance!

All I see is proof that it makes lab rats obese. Where is the proof that it makes humans obese? Where is the proof that it is addictive? I hear that food is addictive too.

Face it, MSG is simply a flavour enhancer. Companies put it in their food because it makes food taste better. <*shock*>

I believe that it's not actually a flavour enhancer, rather, it 'tricks' your brain into THINKING that the food tastes better. This is what I've read, however I could be wrong.
 
Dong Joe said:
> Not only is MSG scientifically proven to cause obesity,
> it is an addictive substance!

All I see is proof that it makes lab rats obese. Where is the proof that it makes humans obese? Where is the proof that it is addictive? I hear that food is addictive too.

Face it, MSG is simply a flavour enhancer. Companies put it in their food because it makes food taste better. <*shock*>
Pretty ignorant if you ask me. I know MSG gives me a headache and induces vomitting in heavy doses. Salt does not. Mono Sodium Glutamate is an entirely synthetic preservative that has found a niche market in the flavor enhancing genre. First developed to help perserve food, it quickly caught on in the lesser fortunate countries as a way to enhance the flavor of their foods.

The reason why rats and mice are used in laboratory testing is because of their very close DNA and molecular makeup to humans. Many side affects that are seen in rats and mice during laboratory testing is much the same as in human subjects.
 
There's no need for it, we've known for years that it gives you headaches so why is it still used?
There's all kinds of nonsense put into food for 'flavouring' or make it last 10 years on the shelf. It's ridiculous we have to pay more and search harder to get less crap in our basic requirements.
 
ruck said:
The reason why rats and mice are used in laboratory testing is because of their very close DNA and molecular makeup to humans. Many side affects that are seen in rats and mice during laboratory testing is much the same as in human subjects.
Someone talking about Stephanie Dion again?:D
 
I thought this thread was about MSOG in coffee shops. I was getting excited.
 
I am more worried about DHMO, check out DMHO.org for those who have been living in a cave for the last 5 years.

That and those fucking Amish. ;)
 
What's an Amish?
Is that like a Danish without icing sugar that they're serving now? :rolleyes: