Most intellectual SP and best conversationalist?
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The only definition of intelligence Ive come across that could be applied generally is....intelligence is what intelligence tests measure. This is why I used intellectual opposed to intelligent.
Im with you on not having a clear understanding of the words, but my own personal opinion is that intelligence has to do with a persons ability to adapt and thrive in any environment. The more environments you can adapt to and thrive in, the more intelligent you are. But thats by no means a widely accepted way of viewing intelligence, just my own.
NY Times Sunday crossword, no problem. Cryptic crosswords, I got nothing! You're a genius. I've got the shoe thing down but where did I leave my keys, and my grocery list, glasses,.........
Your description is of someone with high executive function and possibly but not necessarily highly intelligent.
I deal daily with someone who tests extremely intelligent but has very low executive function. In other words a dreamer.
Lacks focus and cannot follow a routine. The term is 2E. Twice exceptional. Gifted but with learning difficulties. Very frustrating to deal with.
Interesting information. Is 2E different from a person with savant syndrome? I would assume a 2E person is not required to have the severe deficits seen in those with the syndrome?
With there being no concrete definition of intelligence that is widely accepted in the scientific community that I'm aware of (enlighten me if you're aware of one by all means), and given the history of intelligence testing, I was, in a round-about way, getting at the idea that we don't really have any good definitions of intelligence. I understand we primarily equate intelligence with scholastic achievement and performance, but is that not a bit ethnocentric - as not all people around the world receive an education but none the less exhibit extreme "intelligence" when discovering unique and effective ways of living. Is intelligence simply one's ability to write nice words and compute numbers? I don't have answers, just questions.
lol executive functioning....didn't think I'd be talking about that on TERB. Neuropsych 101 right - you're right, the ability to assess a situation, plan your responses and actions and inhibit others are huge components of being able to adapt. But I would think it can still be argued they should be included in the definition of intelligence, at least if you take an evolutionary perspective to it, which I tend to favour as it is at least some sort of "anchor" to attach your beliefs to - adaptation was/is key to survival which increases one's fitness, which is the primary purpose of animals. Of course, you can argue we've evolved past those base purposes, and argue it well, but I'm not of that opinion, not completely anyway.
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T
Intelligence is hard to define because there's more than one kind (naturalist, musical, logical-mathematical, existential, bodily-kinesthetic, linguistic, intra-personal and spatial) https://blog.adioma.com/9-types-of-intelligence-infographic/.
Do we really need to go to the dictionaries for this? Bottom line, you want to speak with someone who can hold a conversation. They understand that two people are involved so there's a combination of talking AND listening. You want them to have some knowledge about general topics and have a few opinions that show they thought about it versus just going with a popular opinion. I've had many interesting conversations with ladies on a variety of subjects. I could also tell when a person isn't a good conversationalist as I found myself asking a question every time I wanted the slightest bit more of information.
A: So, where have you traveled to?
B: Mexico
A: Ok. Did you stay at a resort, with family, or rented something?
B: Resort
A: How was it?
B: Nice
A: Why was that?
B: Good food
A: What was good about it?
If this is how the conversation goes, it's a struggle to maintain interest...
A: So, where have you traveled to?
B: Mexico
A: Ok. Did you stay at a resort, with family, or rented something?
B: Resort
A: How was it?
B: Nice
A: Why was that?
B: Good food
A: What was good about it?
If this is how the conversation goes, it's a struggle to maintain interest...
Damn, Sophia always has me remembering a quote from the classic film Roadhouse (according to myself and Family Guy)
To quote Sam Elliott aka Wade Garrett at 1:15 of this clip
'That gal's got entirely too many brains to have an ass like that'
I would say that savant syndrome would be an extreme case of 2E. Whether Dustin Hoffman in The Rain Man is an accurate portrayal of savant syndrome I'm not sure but that's what comes to mind.
Intelligence is extremely hard to quantify. There's just too many facets to be able to nail it down definitively. I've met a bum who could wax on at length about quantum physics and a professor who called a plumber to unplug the toilet. Intelligent? Sure. Practical? Neither one.
To get back to the topic of the thread, almost all of the ladies I've seen have had a high degree of interpersonal skills and were very intuitive. That would be a certain kind of intelligence I suppose. I would guess that this profession, at least at the agency and well regarded Indy level, does attract intelligent ladies.
Agreed, there are many types of intelligence, but some also theorize a general intelligence, Spearman's g I believe it is. I've always been a fan of that theory, but recognize its limitations. Interesting conversation, thanks peoples.
While I’ve never met them personally, based on their posts on this forum Charlotte Edwards, Daley, Dawn Lee, Jessica Rain, Juno Grey + Sophia Sinclair come to mind as being very intelligent, well educated ladies.
Sophia Sinclair by far...
Well I had a 2 year hiatus from Terb until October of this year....when I finally returned I finally got to meet Sophia Sinclair in December....best experience hobbling...the discussion we had about family/work and life in general indicates she is in a class all by herself...it was the most comfortable I have ever felt...can't wait to return...
Well I had a 2 year hiatus from Terb until October of this year....when I finally returned I finally got to meet Sophia Sinclair in December....best experience hobbling...the discussion we had about family/work and life in general indicates she is in a class all by herself...it was the most comfortable I have ever felt...can't wait to return...
Thank you for the high praise. I'm so glad that I made your foray back into the hobby a memorable one!
That's because he had his hands full (1:27).
I'm honoured to be included with these lovelies and appreciate your alphabetizing the list so as not to imply any rank order.
Obamacare is a start. Obama said it himself that if he could have passed a universal health care Bill, he would have in a second flat, however it simply was not possible. His own party would not support him. So it was a compromise.
I used to believe that the USA would never have any sort of universal health care. Now I'm not as sure. I can see momentum in the USA building in favour of it. It's just like gay marriage. I used to believe that it would never happen in the USA, but they surprised me.
LOL, I love your attention to detail and am also honoured to be listed with such wonderful women.
What I don't like are the one's that try to hard. Some of these ladies you can talk to for hour/days. Other will tell you what you want to hear within your time slot.
The best was when one told me she was Spanish, I was like really were in from ? Her and no word of a lie - Mexico !
Sorry you may speak Spanish, but you are considered Mexican of Latina.
The best was when one told me she was Spanish, I was like really were in from ? Her and no word of a lie - Mexico !
Sorry you may speak Spanish, but you are considered Mexican of Latina.
